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02-20-2012 , 12:43 AM
Good day. I notice some of you deem it appropriate to vote me already. Good luck with that.

Some notes on mechanics to begin:
While your action is unknown, targeting wolfy and UTR players is ideal - If you are a seer they are reasonable peeks, if you are a vig they are reasonable shots, if you are something like Tracker, Watcher, etc then targeting wolves gives the most useful information in the late game.

General Mishmash lynch order is:
Those not playing werewolf.
Obvious wolves.
Hidden wolves.

At the beginning of the game, the village has a very tiny amount of information, even less than in a normal vanilla or vanilla+
Not only do we not have access to wolf spew, wagon analysis etc but we don't even know what our night actions do yet.
We will find that going forwards, there is a wealth of information to collect. The most important thing in a mishmash, even more important than maintaining good reads, is to keep good lists of all the mechanical information available, dead players with role, mechanically cleared villagers etc.
As it is unlikely the strong villagers will live very long (wolves generally have fairly large killing power, especially at the start) it is important to have someone continue this if whoever was doing it last is killed.
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02-20-2012 , 12:43 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by VarianceMinefield
no i looked at the player list and just scrolled up and down it and tried to remember the reads i made

u shoudl kno my list wasnt ordered though

when i order my lists i put gaps to show level of confidence dropping

obviously some names stick out to me like noah. i remmeber i had a good read on him
Oh please. I should KNOW that the almighty varianceminefield doesn't order his lists. I rescind my last comment. Your reads are ****ty.
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02-20-2012 , 12:43 AM
hmm I wonder when kowboys will back down
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02-20-2012 , 12:43 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kowboys4
Yes. Wolves tend to order things arbitrarily. Villagers tend to either rank their reads in order of the read OR by chronological order of when they got the read. I've also made it known that I think that his reads so far are not accurate (I used the term ****ty though that was uncalled for). I also think a reread of VMF (Which I have done) produces a wolfy read.


I looked through Aksdal's posts and couldn't find said list so I must be missing it somewhere.
Quote:
Originally Posted by VarianceMinefield
Village
Noah
Loretta8
Vixticator
Supine
Aksdal
Anarchist
Kcaw
Iversonian
shanks
J.D.


Wolves
Bowens
TimeLady
Willi
flytrap
exec771
Biggerboat
Kowboys4
Dyenminator
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aksdal
in order of entrance into the thread

these are deadserious reads

the only weird one is dye

villas
Loretta8
Minion/Noah
Anarchist
VarianceMinefield
Alrighty Roo
Supine
J.D.
bowens
Slighted/dryice420
Nofear3838
kowboys4
Dyenimator
vixticator
shanks
officedog
zdye724

wolves

exec771
Willi
iversonian
TimeLady
FCBLComish
wahoopride
ShadowZero
biggerboat
425kid
flytrap
kcaw
Bremen
these are the two lists.. i see that aksdal says he did his list according to when people entered, so it does appear that vmf's list is more arbitrarily put together..
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02-20-2012 , 12:43 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by iversonian
I don't recall you ever having described him this way during TLK. And he was never much of a mislynch candidate that game, iirc. Why would you say this? This sounds like w/w.

Also, it just occurred to me, bowens. We played the TLK game together, yet you hardly mentioned SE 3.0 even though my posting was way way different (even taking into account the post restriction). You were a villager there. You bring up SE3 in this game. Why?
I did bring it up, though. It's why I said early on that I thought you and BA were wolves. You weren't posting the same. I was willing to see if it was just the post restriction, so I didn't push it super hard.

And vmf, I say dumb things. It's my biggest problem in ww. Things make sense in my head, so I type them, and it just comes out poorly. It got me mislynched in Dragon Tattoo, and it's something I've got to get fixed if I want to be any good at this game.
Mystery Mash 2 -- February 20th Game Thread Quote
02-20-2012 , 12:44 AM
That list is gold

especially willi
Mystery Mash 2 -- February 20th Game Thread Quote
02-20-2012 , 12:44 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stern Judge
General Mishmash lynch order is:
Those not playing werewolf.
Obvious wolves.
Hidden wolves.
THIS IS A CHIPSAHOY CLAIM
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02-20-2012 , 12:44 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by VarianceMinefield
look at bolded

and read that outloud

tell me if its a villgaer making a natural read
Just proving your point that you suck at reading people.
Mystery Mash 2 -- February 20th Game Thread Quote
02-20-2012 , 12:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kowboys4
This also strikes me as lolobvwolfy. Generally your top wolf reads are at the top of your wolf list and you usually vote your top wolf list. This isn't the case here.
Quote:
Originally Posted by kowboys4
Oh please. I should KNOW that the almighty varianceminefield doesn't order his lists. I rescind my last comment. Your reads are ****ty.
i say it because ur trying to use ur memory of me to make reads on me

so if ur gonna do that then u should try to get the facts straight

also what reads on my list are bad?

also do u think that i just randomly slapped my list together? was that genuine?
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02-20-2012 , 12:45 AM
Until this information is available, I shall contribute with some reads. The purpose of these reads will be to determine the day1 lynch, and will be/should be revisited going forwards.
Mystery Mash 2 -- February 20th Game Thread Quote
02-20-2012 , 12:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kowboys4
Just proving your point that you suck at reading people.
wow u seem to be getting a bit too aggressive here. it doesnt seem natural
Mystery Mash 2 -- February 20th Game Thread Quote
02-20-2012 , 12:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aksdal
hmm I wonder when kowboys will back down
Quote:
Originally Posted by captain binkles
Kowboys sounds genuine though. I think he might back off a bit as a wolf.
Sorry I think I ruined this game
Mystery Mash 2 -- February 20th Game Thread Quote
02-20-2012 , 12:46 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stern Judge
Until this information is available, I shall contribute with some reads. The purpose of these reads will be to determine the day1 lynch, and will be/should be revisited going forwards.
Tell us something we don't know
Mystery Mash 2 -- February 20th Game Thread Quote
02-20-2012 , 12:46 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aksdal
hmm I wonder when kowboys will back down
when I get mad and leave the thread or calm down and change my mind. Seriously, how can you post a list then have Varianceminefield produce a very similar list and not call that sponging? That is like wolfing 101.
Mystery Mash 2 -- February 20th Game Thread Quote
02-20-2012 , 12:47 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aksdal
THIS IS A CHIPSAHOY CLAIM
Most likely
Mystery Mash 2 -- February 20th Game Thread Quote
02-20-2012 , 12:47 AM
Votes as of post 664
Night in 20:14

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VotesLynchVoters
4 Stern Judge iversonian (34), Slighted (30), vixticator (34), zdye724 (9)
4 vixticator flytrap (25), J.D. (31), KruZe (4), shanks (8)
2 flytrap 425kid (13), Anarchist (19)
2 iversonian bowens (24), Loretta8 (19)
2 TimeLady Alrighty Roo (21), VarianceMinefield (37)
1 Alrighty Roo TimeLady (16)
1 Anarchist ShadowZero (18)
1 Crossnerd Supine (70)
1 J.D. Nofear3838 (11)
1 KruZe EADGBE (6)
1 Noah wahoopride (2)
1 VarianceMinefield kowboys4 (20)
1 vlad fightmaster Willi (6)
1 Willi captain binkles (28)
1 unvote Noah (32)
34 not voting axel_nld (0), biggerboat (17), crackedquads (0), derwipok (0), exec771 (16), fanmail (0), filthyvermin (0), hotwings18 (0), jjhender (0), kb coolman (3), kcaw (11), necro (0), officedog (7), rebonkulous (0), tweeddybird (0), vlad fightmaster (0), younguns87 (1), Aksdal (29), BluffingDonkeyz (0), Bremen (13), CalledDownLight (0), CPHoya (0), Crossnerd (0), Dyenimator (19), FCBLComish (11), HiFi (0), Larry Legend (0), Stern Judge (4), Swiitch (0), Tehtoes (0), TehVader (0), Telcontar (0), TheNothing (6), ThePlough (0)
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02-20-2012 , 12:47 AM
Here's a player list that's a little more friendly to the vote counter:

Player List

There are 58 players in this game. Here is an alphabetical list of them.

425kid
Aksdal
Alrighty Roo
Anarchist
axel_nld
biggerboat
BluffingDonkeyz
bowens
Bremen
CalledDownLight
captain binkles
CPHoya
crackedquads
Crossnerd
derwipok
Dyenimator
EADGBE
exec771
fanmail
FCBLComish
filthyvermin
flytrap
HiFi
hotwings18
iversonian
J.D.
jjhender
kb coolman
kcaw
kowboys4
KruZe
Larry Legend
Loretta8
necro
Noah
Nofear3838
officedog
rebonkulous
ShadowZero
shanks
Slighted
Stern Judge
Supine
Swiitch
Tehtoes
TehVader
Telcontar
TheNothing
ThePlough
TimeLady
tweeddybird
VarianceMinefield
vixticator
vlad fightmaster
wahoopride
Willi
younguns87
zdye724
Mystery Mash 2 -- February 20th Game Thread Quote
02-20-2012 , 12:47 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kowboys4
when I get mad and leave the thread or calm down and change my mind. Seriously, how can you post a list then have Varianceminefield produce a very similar list and not call that sponging? That is like wolfing 101.
i am pretty sure i made my list before aksdal made his

Kowboys4
Mystery Mash 2 -- February 20th Game Thread Quote
02-20-2012 , 12:47 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kowboys4
when I get mad and leave the thread or calm down and change my mind. Seriously, how can you post a list then have Varianceminefield produce a very similar list and not call that sponging? That is like wolfing 101.
my list came 2nd

and it was bigger
Mystery Mash 2 -- February 20th Game Thread Quote
02-20-2012 , 12:48 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by VarianceMinefield
i say it because ur trying to use ur memory of me to make reads on me

so if ur gonna do that then u should try to get the facts straight

also what reads on my list are bad?

also do u think that i just randomly slapped my list together? was that genuine?
Yes I very much doubt that you looked up and down a player list and just randomly put a list together and thats how you came up with that one. That seems like a poor way to put reads out.
Mystery Mash 2 -- February 20th Game Thread Quote
02-20-2012 , 12:48 AM
Sternial Judgementius drawing the haters. I hope he analyses everyone who mentioned him to find the wolf team. It would probably work.
Mystery Mash 2 -- February 20th Game Thread Quote
02-20-2012 , 12:48 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stern Judge
Votes as of post 538
Night in 21:18

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VotesLynchVoters
6 vixticator flytrap (25), J.D. (30), kowboys4 (7), KruZe (4), shanks (8), vixticator (27)
2 flytrap 425kid (13), Anarchist (19)
2 TimeLady Alrighty Roo (21), VarianceMinefield (28)
1 Alrighty Roo TimeLady (16)
1 Anarchist ShadowZero (18)
1 Crossnerd Supine (70)
1 FCBLComish iversonian (23)
1 iversonian Loretta8 (14)
1 vlad fightmaster Willi (6)
42 not voting axel_nld (0), biggerboat (15), bowens (18), captain binkles (14), crackedquads (0), derwipok (0), exec771 (16), fanmail (0), filthyvermin (0), hotwings18 (0), jjhender (0), kb coolman (3), kcaw (11), necro (0), officedog (7), rebonkulous (0), tweeddybird (0), vlad fightmaster (0), wahoopride (2), younguns87 (1), zdye724 (5), Aksdal (7), BluffingDonkeyz (0), Bremen (8), CalledDownLight (0), CPHoya (0), Crossnerd (0), Dyenimator (16), EADGBE (2), FCBLComish (11), HiFi (0), Larry Legend (0), Minion/Noah (0), Nofear3838 (11), Slighted/dryice420 (0), Stern Judge (0), Swiitch (0), Tehtoes (0), TehVader (0), Telcontar (0), TheNothing (6), ThePlough (0)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stern Judge
Good day. I notice some of you deem it appropriate to vote me already. Good luck with that.

Some notes on mechanics to begin:
While your action is unknown, targeting wolfy and UTR players is ideal - If you are a seer they are reasonable peeks, if you are a vig they are reasonable shots, if you are something like Tracker, Watcher, etc then targeting wolves gives the most useful information in the late game.

General Mishmash lynch order is:
Those not playing werewolf.
Obvious wolves.
Hidden wolves.

At the beginning of the game, the village has a very tiny amount of information, even less than in a normal vanilla or vanilla+
Not only do we not have access to wolf spew, wagon analysis etc but we don't even know what our night actions do yet.
We will find that going forwards, there is a wealth of information to collect. The most important thing in a mishmash, even more important than maintaining good reads, is to keep good lists of all the mechanical information available, dead players with role, mechanically cleared villagers etc.
As it is unlikely the strong villagers will live very long (wolves generally have fairly large killing power, especially at the start) it is important to have someone continue this if whoever was doing it last is killed.

so it took you over an hour to compose that chips ahoy sponge mechanics post...

fix your vote counter.. and start questioning people. you believe you're a strong player and you've lasted pretty long in the only other game i have seen you, so we'll see how this one goes..
Mystery Mash 2 -- February 20th Game Thread Quote
02-20-2012 , 12:49 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aksdal
my list came 2nd

and it was bigger
so then you sponged him?
Mystery Mash 2 -- February 20th Game Thread Quote
02-20-2012 , 12:50 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kowboys4
Yes I very much doubt that you looked up and down a player list and just randomly put a list together and thats how you came up with that one. That seems like a poor way to put reads out.
u read my posts, u said u reread me

almost all of the people on my read list, i made comments about earlier

also my post came at 524 and aksdals at 590

sooooooooooooooooooooo ya
Mystery Mash 2 -- February 20th Game Thread Quote
02-20-2012 , 12:50 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aksdal
THIS IS A CHIPSAHOY CLAIM
Goddammit, now you're gonna have me go hunt chips/oreos/SJ posts to check timestamp overlaps.

Good entrance by SJ. I do not see a wolf doing that sequence of vote count, gather heat, then make a good post. Taking vote off him, and back to

vixticator
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