So I just lost Internet again.... it's unbearable...

So again, I'm going to be wash behind in interaction reading and being on from phone until it decides to show up again.

I'd be remiss to note the possibility of Euro setting up f3 by saying yesterday duck never wins this at f3

fwiw

saying he won't let duck win it at f3. or something

domer is very easily setting up a bus that caught no momentum and shrug shot henrik when it didn't.

killrate is king, he had a cond. dayvig and probably thought he could pone endgame. I could see him trying a bus there for sure.

i read moast of that and i'm not even sure what you were hoping to explain with it. it's just sort of a recap of what happened.

explain the bolded? makes no sense at all.

your paranoia is adorable, but no.

I read the tchaz novel and I feel like I need a bowl of pasta and a nap to digest it all

Thanks tchaz






^^^
This.
My notes are written online - ya me.
So I'm all from memory now.







Henrik missing twice would be really awful.





remiss?





I really really like tchaz' big post there.. like really!

I'm from phone and got the essence - it's not that hard to get.
But you need to have a open mind

duck - I felt like I had to note it for posterity and possible reference

duck - his big post is ok and all. i really dont get most of it, or what he's trying to convey.

i mean that doesn't answer half the questions posed to him ITT.

Not at all, but he's mirroring some of the same things I considered yesterday - and he's showing an openness to what happened in thread - I like it

also of note, the one who made a comment about how tchaz came back 15-20 mins later to clarify a post and how villagery it was of him to do so

was Len

granted it coud just be because Len knew chaz was a villa anyway

Im sure I'll be one the wolves consider in F3, since to them it will be a guarantee lock. Or so it will seem to them at least.

I mean... it's easy to discredit me. I'm me.

still my issue with that chaz is that you kept saying you prefer to shoot ianaww.

MULTIPLE times.

but instead you go with consensus and shoot lenC.

then later on, you vote me saying it's just a guess.

i mean.. how on earth did me, who was at a bar getting drunk, get voted over the guy you preferred to shoot just an hour earlier?

I dont know the word remiss....

lol no. mid-season tchaz form

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Yes I believe that the power made him fire two golf balls. Since there are two reported in the kill flavour write up it doesn't seem possible that one is yours and one is his. (Setting apart mod-flavour fail.) I'm assuming that you could only fire one ball. So that leads me to think that either your shot didn't reach the target or you didn't shoot. I've already said that in view of Leo's role your claim doesn't seem unreasonable. But we do have this anomaly if your claim is correct. More below

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Iz problem. We have the information from Henrik about who he shot at, tho'. Henrik's conclusion was that domer was angeled on n3 - which makes sense because Henrik claimed to be a partial vig on d3 and the wolf role-blocker was dead by then. Henrik's guess is that he was rb-ed on n1 - but the only role-blocker to flip so far is telcontar the wolf rb.

Now we can think about what happened on n2 in terms of rb-ing. telcontar was alive. that would account for one rb. The question is: is there another rb-er (type) role in the game (either wolf or village)

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tbh, I thought claiming during itas would just cause confusion, which wouldn't be likely to help. People would waste time thinking about my claim instead of trying to figure out how to shoot wolves. You can see in my long MQ that I snapped at DWetz at some point where I was feeling frustrated that people weren't focussed on that. (I may have been wrong in having that feeling, but that was what it was, nevetheless.)

After itas I was trying to think about who to vote for, and again whether it made sense to claim - in case it was going to create a huge distraction in the limited time we had available.

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I don't rule out any one entirely apart from Effen. (It's just logically possible, maybe, that nEffen/Euro are the last two wolves - but I don't believe that and I'm not going to think about it.)

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In my long MQ of itas I go over this. If I'm was to have been a wolf I would never have been in that situation. If I was in the situation I would probably have yolo-ed ianaww.

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I did say I had a slight villa lean on you - I quote a post of mine saying that in the long MQ on my itas I've just posted

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Effen's post about how the claim would have been given to len not ianaww (and maybe more plausible?) if it was cooked up in wolf chat swayed me. I now suspect that the claim wasn't cooked up in wolf chat, but by ianaww on his own - but I only came to that conclusion once ianaww flipped.

if its duck or mets or wang then the wolves did some random button clicking early on bros, no one followed it up, and got there now. fine. not gonna torture myself.

tchaz and euro are what we got centered around whizzing ball gate. tchaz coudla bussed the vig cuz he panicked/needed to/len was dying anyway/wang had no momentum, euro coulda bussed telc and domer because he needed cred and figured he could unclaim when needed.

both are plausible, unless someone has new info to inform me of, and I'll check in, I'm not gonna run in circles for the next 6 hours.

bye

wang makes good points

tchaz coulda not wanted the stink of redirect on himself. remember that didnt flip.

I think the way tchaz writes is SUPER villagery. That whole thing seems pristine.

But someones gotta be the wolf here. dunno. bbl.

mkay. But you were the one who agreed with that reading of my post iirc.

I talked about this in the long list of responses. Briefly, got too convinced by the idea that lenC would have take the better claim if ianaww was a wolf. [Flaw: assumes ianaww's claim was created in wolf-chat - but ianaww probably wasn't there.]

i agree chaz writes villagery.

but i'm not at the point of arguing his tone here. tone isn't what we base votes on in a final 6 situation.

so your entire reasoning for voting me, over ianaww, is that you think when wolves come up with a claim, ianaww's claim should have been given to lenC if they came up with it in wolfchat? instead of lenC claiming vanilliger?

and that entire line of reasoning, ends up with you voting me while saying "just a guess"?

like that wording doesn't match up with how you said you came about it. especially THAT fast during EOD.