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10-14-2009 , 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
Has the neutrals' win condition been given in any role PMs posted when they died? I assume they have to do the same as the wolves and reach parity with all non-neutral players.

I would guess neutrals are stronger than wolves right now, but I also think >50% of remaining field is villagers and that the best thing we can do right now is simply kill anyone we can who is not a villager.
This is most important obviously. I dont know how strong neutrals are, granted they have the ring but their numbers would never be higher than the wolves to start. Clear more villas, lynch more nonvillas.
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10-14-2009 , 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by tabako
aries should definitely be protected tonight

i don't think THC is brazen enough to make that post earlier as a wolf

g1982
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Originally Posted by tabako
timelady was peeked villa
aries can be considered clear

bbb gave us a peek of a neutral who had a NK - could be other evil faction, i guess, but pretty clear for that

i wasn't on g1982 at end of day, my last vote was post 5114 which had my votes for the 2 wolves which got lynched. i guess the final vote count was incorrect
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10-14-2009 , 04:20 PM
i really doubt neutrals win condition is same as werewolves. they started with way fewer numbers and their won condition has never been posted. we should tread carefully.
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10-14-2009 , 04:20 PM
tabako - you claim to have figured out Aries' identity the night after he vigged someone, but those posts you quoted are from when Aries basically claimed seer after being roleblocked. Anything from before the rest of us knew?

I don't necessarily disbelieve you, but obviously anything that would, in hindsight, show concretely that you had this knowledge when everyone else did not would help.
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10-14-2009 , 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Shelob
i really doubt neutrals win condition is same as werewolves. they started with way fewer numbers and their won condition has never been posted. we should tread carefully.
There was a group of 3 neutrals in Lost (like a 40-player game) whose win condition was outlasting everyone else. It's not that improbable.
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10-14-2009 , 04:22 PM
telcontar is generally posting an insane amount of smiley faces, a lot of recaps, but very few reads
he is a good wagon too imo
apparently it's his first game on this site but he played with drubell and vuroth before

VUROTH if you are around what do you think of telcontar in this game?

telcontar
riverfish
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10-14-2009 , 04:22 PM
kukra can u confirm u did nothing night 4? cuz if tabako is lying, both you and him are dying tomrorow.
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10-14-2009 , 04:23 PM
tabako have you played in a game with a tracker before?
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10-14-2009 , 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Shelob
kukra can u confirm u did nothing night 4? cuz if tabako is lying, both you and him are dying tomrorow.
it is true
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10-14-2009 , 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien
************ EVENT ***************






Saruman and the neutral team have found Gollum!



Saruman is in possession on The One Ring! Gollum is now a member of the neutral team!

Quoted for information on who has The One Ring. Look at the 2nd sentence. Of course, it should say possession OF The One Ring, not on, lol.
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10-14-2009 , 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
tabako - you claim to have figured out Aries' identity the night after he vigged someone, but those posts you quoted are from when Aries basically claimed seer after being roleblocked. Anything from before the rest of us knew?

I don't necessarily disbelieve you, but obviously anything that would, in hindsight, show concretely that you had this knowledge when everyone else did not would help.
the vig kill and him being roleblocked and coming out all happened the same day iirc

i mentioned in my claim post that it was a bit confusing because the vig kill succeeding was at odds with the roleblock claim
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10-14-2009 , 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Kukraprout
tabako have you played in a game with a tracker before?
yes i played a 9 player game that you modded (iirc), based on a setup from other forum with 2 yaks
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10-14-2009 , 04:27 PM
i understand that any sort of claim will be met with a little cautiousness, but realize this is not by any means a reasonable claim to fake.

i'll continue to answer all questions
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10-14-2009 , 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by tabako
yes i played a 9 player game that you modded (iirc), based on a setup from other forum with 2 yaks
lol ok I guess this one doesnt really count

you realize that someone not visiting strongly indicates that he is not a wolf?
did you post hints about it?
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10-14-2009 , 04:34 PM
no i didnt realize that, and that was the only game i have played that involved a tracker

are you saying that somebody without a night action is strongly correlated with said person is a villager? I'm not sure I agree with that, at least from what I'm used to in large mishmashes. For example in HP (only other huge mishmash I played) a large number of villagers had night actions, such as peeks to find masonries, etc.

Maybe it would be true of this game in hindsight, but I'm not even sure that is true. Obv I could catch any roleblocker, but how many other evils had night actions that we've seen?
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10-14-2009 , 04:37 PM
a kill counts as a visit
you seem to be aware of it because it is on that basis that you are saying ludo is sauron
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10-14-2009 , 04:39 PM
anyway if you have any role that gains info at night, the standard way to play is to leave hints about what you learned to be found by the village when you are dead
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10-14-2009 , 04:39 PM
why did you follow drontier night 2?
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10-14-2009 , 04:41 PM
well obviously

but you think if i tracked the target of the nazgul NK i get all 9 names?
or if I track any of the 9 nazgul I would find out that they visited NK target?

that seems wayyyy overpowered if true

I figured they would choose a single person to carry out the NK, that seemed to be standard from other mishsmahes I've played where it mattered (ghostbusters comes to mind as a game where this was emphasized). This would be consistent with tracking mflip with his NK during n7, as he was the only nazgul left he had to be the one chosen to carry out the action.
I also figure sauron has his own NK, as indicated by the writeups where he is the person ordering the kill, and thats why I recieved the track result I did during the last night.
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10-14-2009 , 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by tabako
I am Halbarad, a Ranger of Ithilien.

Each night I choose a player to track, and I learn if anybody visited them or if they visited anybody else.

N5 ARIESRAM

AriesRam visited Drubell
mflip visited AriesRam

notes: gandalf killed drubell n5, so I assumed from this point forward that aries is gandalf, and this is reflected in my posts.
aries also said that his peek got roleblocked this night. i wasn't sure if he was leveling, because the kill went through. i eventually figured out that mflip was indeed the roleblocker after i tracked him acting on BEG, when BEG was claiming that she was roleblocked.

N6 KEANUREAVER NO RESULT

N7 MFLIP

mflip visited BombayBadboy
mflip visited BrownEyedGirl
I assume dynamics are that the person he was peeking was role blocked. Did Aries say who this was? They should be considered nonwolf most likely however evils may roleblock one of their own to prevent them from being peeked (assuming roleblocks of the peeked results in no peek for the peeker). That is a slim chance as you'd have to have a candidate that is important enough to use your roleblock on but whose night power isn't worth much. Not usually a good play, so assume nonwolf if Aries left this info.
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10-14-2009 , 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Kukraprout
why did you follow drontier night 2?
obviously all the discussion about him being shelob

i got no definitive answer regarding his role as shelob because nobody got poisoned that night
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10-14-2009 , 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by RiverFenix
I assume dynamics are that the person he was peeking was role blocked. Did Aries say who this was? They should be considered nonwolf most likely however evils may roleblock one of their own to prevent them from being peeked (assuming roleblocks of the peeked results in no peek for the peeker). That is a slim chance as you'd have to have a candidate that is important enough to use your roleblock on but whose night power isn't worth much. Not usually a good play, so assume nonwolf if Aries left this info.
It looks like before OMW died, Saruman couldn't be peeked. lol if Aries peeked Saruman and just assumed he was roleblocked if it didn't go through
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10-14-2009 , 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by tabako
obviously all the discussion about him being shelob

i got no definitive answer regarding his role as shelob because nobody got poisoned that night
really?

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Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien
After stringing up Faramir at the end of the day, the village had another tough night.

A huge group of orcs found a great Warrior of Rohan. He was able to slay a few of them, but he eventually got over run.



lsc1022, you are Gamling, a vanilla human. You are a member of the good team. You win by eliminating all of the non-good characters in the game.

Meanwhile, a group of Nazgul got into a fight with something quite strange. It was changing before their eyes! First it looked like a hobbit to them! Then it changed into The Dark Lord himself! Then back into a hobbit! It was a tough battle, but in the end, biggerboat was finally dead.

biggerboat, you are a Barrow-wight. You are a shape-shifter. Each night, you may send me one player's name, and if you are peeked by a seer, you will be revealed as that person to the seer. You are part of the neutral team.

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The other group of Uruk-hai in league with Saruman went after something that has been bothering them for a long time, right on their doorstep. Finally, they were able to fell the giant tree, Brian.

Brian, you are Bregalad the Ent, known as Quickbeam among your people. You once answered "Yes" to a question before that person was finished asking it! Thus you are known to be quite Hasty. Unlike the other Ents who can only vote once and not change it, you can actually change your vote once (and only once). You are a member of the good team. You win by eliminating all of the non-good characters in the game.

Two people got poisoned tonight, one from Shelob, one from legolas. Felix The Cat and Cadaz are poisoned. They are immobilized and powerless and will die in 3 days if not healed.

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The Fellowship made it to Lothlórien tonight. In the morning, they head down the Anduin, The Great River.



Closer and closer they get to Mordor........

It is Day!
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10-14-2009 , 04:50 PM
I have class soon, but will be back after to answer more questions before EOD.
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10-14-2009 , 04:55 PM
tabako post an explanation or lolcats. your choice.
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