He's King Nazgul probably

Oh and I am going to sleep. More 9:1 useless to useful posting tomorrow.

rofl tahts cause you dont beleive the words i say, how can i effect that

i hope you guys are wolves for real cause this is dumb

also the nightkill writeup said that Sauruman was responsible for the death of FCBL. Now that we know for certain Saruman is in charge of the neutral team, we know that the neutrals killed FCBL. If they were seerhunting (which we can only assume at this point that they were), coordi could only be a neutral because the neutrals can't distinguish between who is a wolf and a villager (unless they already peeked coordi)

The chances coordi is a wolf are very very close to zero. So idn why you guys are calling him a wolf

Dead people (in chronological order):

Day 1

housenuts - Lobelia Sackville-Baggins (vanilla hobbit) - lynched
TJT11 - Gorbag (lost wolf) - modkilled
wahoopride - Sam Gamgee (hobbit mason w/ Frodo) - Nazgul kill
atakdog - Lotho Sackville-Baggins (neutral hobbit godfather) - Sauron kill
ewalsh420 - Rosie Cotton (vanilla hobbit) - Saruman kill
Quadstriker - a Nazgûl (vote power w/ other Nazguls) - Eomer vig kill
dkgojackets - Landroval (eagle w/ power to save Frodo from Mount Doom) - Gimli vig kill

Day 2

DanivbDH - Durin's Bane (balrog) - suicide bombed
The Evil Polka Man - Lord Celeborn (elf seer) - suicide bombed
A.Ertbjerg - Faramir (human half vigilante) - lynched
lsc1022 - Gamling (vanilla human) - Sauron kill
biggerboat - Barrow-wight (neutral shape-shifter) - Nazgul kill
Brian - Bregalad/Quickbeam (ent w/ ability to change own vote once) - Saruman kill

Day 3

pvn - Bill Ferny (wolf janitor) - lynched
RiverFenix - Bilbo Baggins (hobbit w/clues about the gameplay) - Sauron kill
xxaceshigh77xx - Tom Bombadil ("eldest being in existence" w/ immunity against The One Ring) - Treebeard kill
FCBLComish - Barliman Butterbur (human half seer) - Saruman kill
Drontier - Elrohir (vanilla elf) - Gimli vig kill
DannyKGB - Gimli (dwarf vigilante) - Eomer vig kill
PointerToVoid - Legolas (elf vigilante w/ power to poison) - Nazgul kill
legend42 - Radagast (Istar wizard vote manipulator) - Warg kill



Status: 15 dead villagers, 4 dead wolves, 2 dead neutrals.

the wagons got pretty close yesterday,
the evils have votebuyers/some type of nazgul voters(maybe if the majority of nazgul are on someone they get +1 to their vote?), but pvn was still lynched

maybe the evils were voting the gf yesterday?

Because he was peeked as one? Am I misunderstanding something here?

Player list (54 remaning)

Aaronk56's Son
AceofSpades
Andrex Puppy
AriesRam
BombayBadboy
BrownEyedGirl
bsball8806
Cadaz
Chips Ahoy
coordi
DiggertheDog
drubell
ElliotR
essedarius
ewalsh420
Felix the Cat
G1982
globetrotter
goofyballer
J.D.
jonnyd
KeanuReaver
Kukraprout
Luckbox Inc
Ludovic Banhammer
McAvoy
mflip
Mr. Smaug
mrs. Jonnyd
officedog
Old Man Willow
OnThInIcE911
Pyromaniac
riverfish1
Scrubbo
semper fidelis
Sun Tzu
tabako
Tao1
TehVader
Telcontar
The_GF
theHuntContinues
Thingyman
TimeLady
umaine89
VayaConDios
vuroth
Willd
WinEvryRacex
XXsooted
Youngplayer9
ZeTurd
ZomgHax

Some people seriously need to start posting.

Can anyone who's experienced with balancing mish-mashes make a guess at how many neutrals/wolves there are left?

prolly like 15 wolves left

Okay.

54 people total.

About 15 wolves left. The neutral faction will probably consist of Saruman, Grima Wormtongue and seeing as the neutrals seem to be controlling the uruk-hais, then Lurtz (the guy who slays Boromir in the movie) could also be in the game. Would there be more than 5 neutrals to begin with? Also, Gollum is a possible lone neutral.

If the above is true, then we are left with: 34-35 villagers, 15 wolves and 3-4 neutrals. How do we like our chances?

ya

cuz seer FCBL left clear peek of him as wolf

Assuming coordi is a wolf:
His agenda with his claim is to get lynched. He might be unlynchable, or lynch twice... If we can kill him before lynch, that would be good.

Assuming coordi is Frodo:
He's expendable and what we need is a ring bearer peeking/killing Sauron. Letting him live would be a disaster if the wolves can roleblock his peeks.


In either case:
If there's any way we can kill coordi before lynch, we should do it. Suicide bomber one time? Compared to most games, the lynch is a small % of the total kills, but we need to force people to make meaningful votes so we can have informed night actions.

The ring bearer needs to be hidden.

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I recently finished a (traumatic) game that had a similar situation and the "obvious" peeks weren't peeks at all. Coordi was in that game and I remember all his posts. I wagoned him hard, then researched his wolf game, which was nothing like his posts that game, and nothing like his posts this game.

More from that game: Atak fake peeked coordi and coordi stepped on the peek. Atak was nk'd and coordi never mentioned the fake peek. I couldn't believe that a villager could do that, but he did. So I find the idea he didn't leave a mason code believable.

Debating coordi's role is pretty pointless because we have to do the same thing either way, but I'd like to request that we talk to coordi without the taunting. Let him make his reads, and then we have to kill him.

+1

My wolf read FCBL was actually a seer. Standard.

Coordi needs a lead sufficient to overcome any vote buyers, obviously.

Still, we should treat the 2nd wagon like a lynch, for a variety of reasons (we have a suicide bomber, coordi is unlynchable, so we don't waste a day of discussion).

I'll start with

McAvoy

since goofy was slacking today.

I'm guessing you're probably not around now but coordi have you put the ring on at any point (is this even an option for you?)? This is fairly important but I would prefer if other people not speculate too much on it until coordi replies.

With respect to him looking villagery I agree his posts sounded pretty good on tone but I don't think an actual villager asks so many times about whether he should claim. An actual villager will realise there is 0% chance he survives once he realises he's been peeked wolf and claims straight away.

Also hands up anyone else thinks Frodo might not be in the game because of this.

This is a wolf....no doubts about it. I'm not moving my vote, and I encourage the rest of you to vote this way as well. She has been UTR. Hasn't contributed, and then pops in and places a vote on Danny right at the end of the day....almost as if she were in the wolf cave watching.

There were 3 more wolves, desperately trying to save PVN:

All wolves:
Coordi
The_GF
Thingyman
Mrs. JonnyD

Actually scrap that thing about Frodo not being in the game, this would be a terrible time to use that role for a fake claim.

My villager list:

Chips
OTI
Willd
Umaine
McAvoy
XXsooted

I can't be late today, so I'm leaving early. Good day all!

BEG noone is getting lynched other than coordi today. That doesn't mean you should stop trying to find wolves though of course, just that (most) people won't be following your mrs johnny vote, even if they might otherwise.

That said we do need to have a 2nd wagon formed at some point but it will probably be easier to do this once coordi has plenty of votes already. To aid that

coordi

i used to ring to seer peek people. nothing about putting the ring on is in the writeup but it did say the ring was evil obv.

as for not claiming right away, i have never been in this position. actuallying being a villager, and basically the villager focal point, kind of makes this a unique situation. not knowing exact game dynamics and being worried about having the ring and people knowing i have it, it all adds an extra dimention to it. based on the reactions so far, i kind of wish i had not claimed at all, because there is more focus on me being fake than progressing with what to do next.

lol @ asking me if im a nazgûl.

no im not a nazgûl .

i mean seems like if you have an "outed" wolf who is around and willing to talk you would try to make him spew instead of interrogate him about his story, and speculate if it is true

pvn had 6 votes and AKson had 3 votes before G1982 made this post
it was already a bad post by itself and it's even worse now that pvn turned up wolf