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02-06-2012 , 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by McAvoy
BASaint,

Can you give us an iversonian read please.
Why do you want him to read someone most of us think is a wolf? Why not ask for someone else?
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02-06-2012 , 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by BASaint
are you seriously accusing me of not pushing NLS

iverson re-read incoming. for a start i've hardly noticed the dude while he was one of the most prominent people in the SE 3 game
no, you definitely pushed NLS.... except when it mattered the most. When it really came down to it, you voted Globe instead of NLS

Globe " Who i thought was a villager ".

lolcats.
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02-06-2012 , 05:43 PM
iver re-read with reference to these two debo posts iver d1 iver d2

Agree with debo's conclusion that he had a wolfy d1 altho not exactly for the same reasons. Debo thinks that posting first and then banging on about conserving post counts is wolfy, I dont, but I do think Iver had a d1 which was dissimilar to the village games of dragon tattoo and SE3. he's rather incoherent with a lot of his leans here, fairly unconfident/not really pushing them hard too, while as a villager i've seen much more forthright and lucid play in the past.

d2, debo points out quite a few inconsistencies in Iver's posting. On their own I dont think they are indicative of much, but piled up they do indicate something is up. especially since I know that Iver is capable of good logical play as a villager.

d3 onwards, this is the only post that I could find of note

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Originally Posted by iversonian
nm, on reread, aksdal looks very much villager.

LL's posting looks more like a villager making dumb posts, not those of a wolf.

Sorry guys, but i'm gonna have to check out with this post. I've never been sold on the globe argument, and cannot support his wagon.

Booker, though wolfy, is playing his typical villa game, from what I know of it, so I am willing to give nofear another day to redeem himself.

Dye, however, is a wolf with a lower case "o".

catch y'all tomorrow.
changing his adskal read 5 seconds after making an 'adskal = wolf' is villagery in a vacuum since it is indicative of someone changing their views as they read, rather than just pushing an agenda. his flip on LL from d2 to d3 is similar in this respect. however, these reads are not explained well. as i've already mentioned this dude made a 4k word post in the SE3 game explaining himself, so this is once again counter to his usual village game.

conclusion: Iver should not be a wagon for being utr on superbowl weekend ldo. he should be a wagon for consistently failing to post in his village style.
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02-06-2012 , 05:49 PM
I pushed NLS wagon all day, only switched when it became clear he was not going to be a realistic lynch:

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Originally Posted by derm
just like you did earlier today?

i dont like the NLS wagon at all. magic is also unacceptable.
Ronni might be a choice but id rather lynch someone that has actually posted.
i dont feel like throwing a day away.

i still prefer a globe lynch but after rereading vix im not opposed to his wagon.
globe/vix wagons are gold imo.
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Originally Posted by iversonian
what is this **** again. my first post is post #11. how the hell am i supposed to make reads on anyone? and if you cut out the mechanics talk, i'm still providing a read on vix.



of all the reads i provide in that post, you highlight the one where i make a note of checking back on him later, and now i'm wolfy for that?? and yeah, i do say that NLS is villagery later. because he is.
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Originally Posted by iversonian
i don't like lynching NLS. vix is better, but the ronnie voters should find a better vote. he's going to be replaced anyway. need to do more due diligence on globe. get off the magic wagon folks.
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Originally Posted by TheNothing
jumping on vix wagon, still don't think NLS is wolf
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Originally Posted by vixticator
Reading EOD again from last night the way NLSoldier keeps jumping from vote to vote is very unwolfy, wolves do not care much which villager they lynch and aren't likely to be hopping all around with new votes. It shows more just no idea who to vote for mentality. I've been there before.
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Originally Posted by BASaint
looks like ur wolf ass is gonna be back in here tomorow NL

if it ends up as vix/someone else wagons im gonna be voting to save vix

of other wagons being mentioned i dont feel passionately about the globe one or the LL one but otoh i've not got much reason to defend them either

derm i think is a villager, i wont be voting for him

hifi/ronnie are whatever. would rather wait for them to get subbed/start posting before considering them but i cant fight on their behalf.
and here is where I give up on NLS and vow to vote to save vix.
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02-06-2012 , 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Larry Legend
dont re-read iversonian

re-read vmf
ugh this, dont reread ivy

this game is mad frustrating

ppl need to reread ppl who aren't mad villagery

who aren't SHC

and ppl need to stop making posts asking ppl to do things that you should be able to do on your own

i think vmf's range is polarized to wolf or seer

so yeah
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02-06-2012 , 06:01 PM
VMF/ronnie

Ronnie apparently subs out of games often through lack of posting regardless of role so I think his (lack of) posting was neutral.

VMF got stuck in immediately which I think is villagery. The fact that he was subbed in with about 5 mins to go till eod and started posting immediately is really good, i would expect a wolf to chillax if put in that spot and not post until the next day.

at the start of d3 he admits to making thin reads without having read much of the thread, this is villagery since he is likely to make bad reads which can be read as wolfy if taken out of context. a wolf would not open himself up to cheap criticism like that.

pushes TN and defends derm, two reads i agree with.

one thing that concerns me is that he usually posts longer in-depth content, but that may be explained by subbing in. personally i have a hard time getting to grips with a game if i haven't been involved at the time. its a lot harder to form confident reads & build strong cases when you're coming into the game cold.

the fact that he's been confused about a few things such as telcontar being in the game and cash subbing in for cphoya is also villagery, since he would probably be sure to get a good understanding of the way the game has gone so far via wolfchat.

conclusion: vmf is a ~lock villa take it to the bank yo
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02-06-2012 , 06:12 PM
ok guys, finally got around to this. I need to reread debo's case on me. Let me know what you need from me. We are not doing a me lynch today.
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02-06-2012 , 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Cado
Votes as of post 989
Night in 02:48

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VotesLynchVoters
5 iversonian bowens (3), Debo9 (16), Dyenimator (3), HiFi (14), magic_gazz (10)
4 BASaint derm (14), Larry Legend (15), NLSoldier (4), Telcontar (8)
2 McAvoy BASaint (7), NoFear3838 (7)
1 Dyenimator Aksdal (12)
1 HiFi TheNothing (7)
1 Telcontar VarianceMinefield (8)
4 not voting globetrotter (1), iversonian (0), tappokone (0), McAvoy (12)
What the hell is this? Both of these wagons are AIDS. Why are we not lynching McAvoy?
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02-06-2012 , 06:33 PM
debo, on me, d1:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=704

yeah, taht first post was bad for more than one reason. that's all there is to it.

As for post restriction games, 20 seemed like a huge restriction when I thought about it. Was a bit concerned at the time.

my early read was as NLS wolfy. the cash vote was because he was wolfier. his intro post made it obv what my reason for voting was.

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Also, realize how above iversonian says "he's going to have to throw all his notes away on vixt it seems" but then uses his reasoning to vote for cash!
i was saying that vix had a point about cash's post. Read the above again and see it that's a reasonable argument.

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ok. now i'm going to focus on when he talks about NLSoldier. he says he played one long game with NLSolider when he was a wolf, and NLS was much more vocal. But NLS has said he is an UTR wolf, and others have agreed with that. So why does iversonian remember it differently?
??? this is what i said:

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i only played a long game with NLS (wolf) once. i did sweat a few pages of other games (where he was prob villa) and he was much more active. i'll be waiting to see contributions from him as we go along.
this post is pretty bad. Regarding my vote on LL, the reason I don't change my vote despite saying: "srsly wtf. are we going to lynch someone with just 3 votes? (i say this, even though i'm one of those votes)." Obv, I am troubled by the lack of solid wagons. It doesn't mean I suddenly think LL is a bad lynch (although the voting pattern toward the day worried me somewhat).

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and asks this question which i don't like. he had no thoughts on someone? he wasnt paying attention?
the cq cfd materialized, there was little discussion, and i wanted to get people talking.

d2 coming up
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02-06-2012 , 06:34 PM
iversonian
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02-06-2012 , 06:34 PM
I feel like dye is like always a wolf at this point

LL is never a wolf
mac is never a wolf
magic is rarely a wolf
ivy is nearly never a wolf
nls is nearly never a wolf
nofear prob isn't a wolf
derms like never a wolf
telc is prob nearly never a wolf
debo is practically never a wolf

who's left?

vmf, TN, dye, basaint, hifi

so yeah

dye popped in to vote ivy earlier then left

popped in this morning to find peeks then bounced

he's playing robotically

he's super likely to be a wolf
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02-06-2012 , 06:36 PM
aksdal,

Have you been paying attention to fakepeeks at all? I haven't been but I have backed off of some people because I seen them peeked but I'm not sure how trustworthy the person leaving peeks were tbh.
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02-06-2012 , 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Larry Legend
iversonian
ivy was recently a wolf in the apartments game and he was hard headed and aggro

180 from how he's playing here
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02-06-2012 , 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by McAvoy
aksdal,

Have you been paying attention to fakepeeks at all? I haven't been but I have backed off of some people because I seen them peeked but I'm not sure how trustworthy the person leaving peeks were tbh.
ya, i thought globe was seer for his 180 on derm and what looked like a fakepeek in his list. that's why i backed off him. I've noticed other obnoxious stuff too.

Probably tomorrow if we still have an angel and a seer, the seer needs to claim and we'll determine the credible one and angel the **** out of him. maybe even lynch inside the claims if its good enough. not sure when ML is
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02-06-2012 , 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Aksdal

dye popped in to vote ivy earlier then left

popped in this morning to find peeks then bounced

he's playing robotically

he's super likely to be a wolf
I agree with this. And when called on it, he's using the excuse "I'm trying to change my game" Villagers don't need to make that excuse. Wolves do.
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02-06-2012 , 06:41 PM
lol @ that. Read up on my past games, i'm always called wolfy.
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02-06-2012 , 06:43 PM
Votes as of post 1016
Night in 01:17

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VotesLynchVoters
7 iversonian bowens (4), Debo9 (16), Dyenimator (4), HiFi (14), Larry Legend (18), magic_gazz (11), VarianceMinefield (9)
4 BASaint derm (14), McAvoy (15), NLSoldier (5), Telcontar (10)
2 McAvoy BASaint (12), NoFear3838 (8)
1 Dyenimator Aksdal (16)
1 HiFi TheNothing (7)
3 not voting globetrotter (1), iversonian (2), tappokone (0)
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02-06-2012 , 06:47 PM
debo's d2 on me:

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ok. so he sticks to his NLS read, and that vix is a better lynch. but he said he needed to reread him before. did he? if he did, he never posted notes. and yesterday he said that he agreed with vixt that leans should not be left silent!
i do do a reread on vix:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=489

way to miss it. not the most solid read, obv, but it was the best i had at the time. And yes, I thought he was a much better lynch than LL, all things considered. This is why I didn't vote LL despite voting him d1.

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ok so in d1, iversonian voted LL (and according to him, tried to start his wagon) because he was wolfy. now, he wants to resolve LL tomorow (today). He also says he knows where he stands on LL, but doesn't restate it.

WHY I HATE THIS POST:

1) IF YOU THINK SOMEONE IS A WOLF HOW DO YOU NOT VOTE THEM?
2) YOU SAID ON d1 THAT YOU AGREE WITH VIXT NOT TO KEEP LEANS SECRET. you are making people re read looking for a lean. IT MAKES NO SENSE
so I hope that addresses that. My post was at 6:49. My priority is laying out a case for why LL is NOT the best wagon?

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conclusion:

this day was just as bad. starts off by saying he will need to re read vixt, and never gets around to it. says LL is a wolf day 1, but then wants to resolve his wagon at a later date. puts a vote on the big wagon.
All of these arguments are rooted in false premises or are just bad logic.
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02-06-2012 , 06:55 PM
is anyone online or are we going super quiet again to EOD?
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02-06-2012 , 06:58 PM
im here, i just somehow thought the eod was 2hrs from now and was overly careful with my posts.

and im still happy with the wagons.
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02-06-2012 , 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by iversonian
is anyone online or are we going super quiet again to EOD?
I'm here. My vote on you is based simply on the fact that I just finished watching you make read after read, post after post, being very deliberate and helpful to the village. You have not done that in this game. Post count or no, your village game is better than this.

Why am I wrong?
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02-06-2012 , 07:01 PM
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I am the seer.

n0 mcavoy=v
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/59...l#post31304777

n1 magic=v
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/59...l#post31325614
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/59...l#post31326204

n2 dye=w
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/59...l#post31359322
sorry for not pushing dye hard. had to check out to watch the superbowl. but the wolves might have missed this as a peek since i was already hounding dye earlier, and so didn't get NK'd.

n3 basaint=w

basaint

angel protect me obv

Sorry for claiming so late guys, first seer game in a vanilla, and I didn't really expect to get wagoned hard today.
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02-06-2012 , 07:01 PM
Nice, im only on 10 posts. I thought I had made a lot more

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Originally Posted by Nofear3838
What the hell is this? Both of these wagons are AIDS. Why are we not lynching McAvoy?
Mc is likely a villager and Iver and basaint are likely wolves. I'd rather we lynched the latter, but either is good for me
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02-06-2012 , 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by iversonian
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I am the seer.

n0 mcavoy=v
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/59...l#post31304777

n1 magic=v
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/59...l#post31325614
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/59...l#post31326204

n2 dye=w
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/59...l#post31359322
sorry for not pushing dye hard. had to check out to watch the superbowl. but the wolves might have missed this as a peek since i was already hounding dye earlier, and so didn't get NK'd.

n3 basaint=w

basaint

angel protect me obv

Sorry for claiming so late guys, first seer game in a vanilla, and I didn't really expect to get wagoned hard today.
Great peeks!

well done

Angel protect this guy big time! I knew I was right on Basaint
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02-06-2012 , 07:03 PM
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