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08-24-2020 , 05:12 PM

#801

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Originally Posted by HerbieGRD

I’m going to ask nicely if you could please stop treating everyone who has a different take than you do like they are an idiot

Partially because you’re more wrong than right, but mostly because it’s a crappy thing to do

My apologies if TimmayB is offended, but he is obviously not an idiot.

He however called me a wolf for color coding the wolves in red, which is completely fallacious and annoys me extremely.

Calling the commies wolves is something you get from the OP.

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08-24-2020 , 05:13 PM

#802

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Originally Posted by Montecore

UD,

My role increases "Class Unrest" by a set amount if I'm elected; the higher the Class Unrest, the greater the percentage dayvig the wolves get. Hence me outing both a) that the mechanic exists at least once, and likely in other places, and ensuring villagers that don't read the rules closely don't increase wolf KP because "being President is fun" and that b) I specifically don't want to get elected, and some care should be given to electing someone campaigning, since it seems within the realm of possibility that a commie firebrand could also increase class unrest if elected

Interesting claim. Fine, you don't have my vote. Some of what you say doesn't make sense to me but I suppose Birdman could have done anything.

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08-24-2020 , 05:13 PM

#803

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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu

btw, chef's kiss to birdman's game design here

the leftists starting without chat is a clever reflection of their difficulty organizing irl

the way the factions are set up so that the liberals will tolerate fascists in order to eliminate the communists is brilliant

the election mechanics also seem pretty clever

yeah, i'm a big fan of this ruleset and roleset as stated. but man, it's gonna make reads really hard. there's gonna be a lot of imperfect info and niche character relationships.

in fact it reminds me most of the Mishmash game i modded - dual evil factions, subplots, complex individual character relationships and win conditions

that game was, uh, not reads-based

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08-24-2020 , 05:14 PM

#804

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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu

this part is actually brilliant.

I would say that in Europe, the liberals (the "center") actually tolerates rather the communists in order to eliminate the fascists, but I can see that it is the other way around in the US.

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08-24-2020 , 05:16 PM

#805

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Originally Posted by A missread issue

A wild presidential candidate appeared!

I am here to represent a single-issue party, the Lynch All Non-Liberals Party, which I am also a sole member of. A vote for me is a vote for a dead fascists or a dead commie (no discrimination). Literally the only reason for you to not vote me is if you hate freedom.

wtf?!?!? how is no one reacting to this?

this could be that slimeball billionaire bloomberg who is a lib for sure!

no one is even discussing it?

a missread issue

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08-24-2020 , 05:16 PM

#806

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Originally Posted by shortline99

Basically what’s gonna happen here is that a whole bunch of people are gonna get killed by a whole bunch of other people for no good reason and eventually the team that wins will either be the team that runs good or the team that best figures out how everything went down

Until then - pew pew pew

And someone should shoot Tokyo and maybe Luckbox

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08-24-2020 , 05:16 PM

#807

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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu

This is a good post. It's clear a lot of consideration went into everything about this game, TY Birdman, however this plays out you did a good job designing things. <3

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08-24-2020 , 05:16 PM

#808

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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc

So wait....you not putting someone on ignore is now proof of Metsiness? I don't buy it.

herbie put me on ignore for being too metsy at him

why do you think he put me on ignore?

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Originally Posted by wahoopride

The only advantage for me of developing a consensus kill is the information that comes out of the discussion. Debatable how much that is but probably less on d1 and less with 3 factions.

thats a pretty huge thing. also, it makes peopel take a stand

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Originally Posted by HerbieGRD

Anyways I’m almost out of pre 7:00 posts which is fine

If you vote for me I promise to use my very best judgment to kill someone I think is a bad guy

I am not claiming benefits if I am elected, but I am claiming that there is nothing in my role that will cause any negative effects for the village if I am elected

I will implement two party system tonight if elected

The reason I would like to be elected is that it would be fun and I don’t trust anyone else as much as I trust myself

If it looks as though I will not be clearly elected I will vote strategically at EOD to try to avoid the possibility of shenanigans to minimize the chances of civil unrest

You will know where I stand reads wise, but I will not hard commit to a particular kill. If you don’t accept that then don’t vote for me

yet you would vote shorty cause lol!

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Originally Posted by crackedquads

mets why are you puking about my herbie vote?

cause he and dustbox are both super scummy, and your discussion with them seems w/w/w

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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc

That's cool.

umad?

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Originally Posted by confirmedtroll

I meant for accountability for all the players. by only talking about the president, only the president will be accountable for the elimination, which is obv sub-optimal.

yes everyone needs to be accountable

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Originally Posted by TimmayB

OP seems to infer the opposite afaik.

Not looking good here bro.

I'm low on post remaining to but if a member of the village could press CT on this it would be great.

im a liberal. im town, and color coding definitely means something?

if that is what you are asking ... you arent? now im confused

look at how i color coded my list ... it went from green to red

now im worried i was wrong about you

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08-24-2020 , 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Montecore

Hoisted by my own petard; not sure how I'm going to recover

With that said, making a declarative statement that I haven't been clear when you admit you didn't read my posts is also not villagery, my prickly reaction to xkf aside

I didn't say that I didn't read your post, did I? I said I haven't made a full narrative of your posts. And standalone, the few posts before I commented were nonsensical (they still don't match the explanation you provided, but I no longer care)

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I wanted to say this without burning a post. It's a great game setup. I love games with multiple wolf factions

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08-24-2020 , 05:18 PM

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gabethebabe would have loved to play this game

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08-24-2020 , 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by filthyvermin

wtf?!?!? how is no one reacting to this?

this could be that slimeball billionaire bloomberg who is a lib for sure!

no one is even discussing it?

a missread issue

I saw it, but I have no read on it either way. Just seemed like a try-hard post to me, not a bad post, but yeah...

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08-24-2020 , 05:19 PM

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Yeah I'm not sure how possible wagon analysis is going to be in this format. We can't analyze who voted for wolves now. It would seem we could analyze wagons based on who voted for villagers (pres choice), but that's murky too because badguys can/will vote for who pres candidates want to lunch rather than how outright villagery that candidate was.

Keeping tally of who leading pres candidates want to lunch every day can be done but it's gonna take a lot more time that usual wagon analysis

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08-24-2020 , 05:20 PM

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I'm holding out hope that there's enough mechanics out there to make the game solvable. Or enough carnage that it's fun enough I don't care about the lack of solving.

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08-24-2020 , 05:20 PM

#814

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Originally Posted by Uglydelicious

This is a good post.

thanks

slightly unhurts my feelings from you calling another post stupid

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08-24-2020 , 05:22 PM

#815

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Originally Posted by crackedquads

everyone should post in bold red who they want killed
like this

dustin

and that is sort of your vote

yes you can lie but if a good president listens .. it gives us something to analyze

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08-24-2020 , 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan

cause he and dustbox are both super scummy, and your discussion with them seems w/w/w

wat

There's no discussion between me, herbie and luckbox there

I voted herbie because I think he's a good choice but there was literally zero "discussion" between me and herbie at any point in this game. We have not interacted with one another at all

I don't think herbie looks scummy though I can see luckbox being scummy here and I'm fine with him being on the shats shortlist

There was a like four post exchange between me and luckbox, hardly a discussion there either

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08-24-2020 , 05:25 PM

#817

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Originally Posted by Uglydelicious

I saw it, but I have no read on it either way. Just seemed like a try-hard post to me, not a bad post, but yeah...

goddamnnit!!! i thought this was a modpost lol!!! i didn't realize amissreadissue is just one of the players in the game

xander

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08-24-2020 , 05:25 PM

#818

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Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan

everyone should post in bold red who they want killed
like this

dustin

I do tend to like things to be more organized.

I think bsball suggested earlier:

Bold your ballot
italicize your lunch

I like that better than bold red but might just be me

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08-24-2020 , 05:26 PM

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can someone tell herbie to take me off ignore so we can discuss how scummy luckbox is together?

if i am president and he doesnt take me off ignore i may have to pollicy kill him but i am very serious when i say dustin is not a liberal this game. id be shocked if he was.

i dont think ive ever been this confident in a wolf read on day 1

"get metsy" "oh you didnt put him on ignore makes you a liberal?"

its almost like hes not even trying tho

maybe he has a power where if hes the kill he gets to redirect it or something idk

but hes no way a villager

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08-24-2020 , 05:26 PM

#820

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and of course the final stroke of genius and perhaps birdman's "message" if there is one is the way if the liberals succeed in getting rid of the communists, we're on the brink of fascism

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08-24-2020 , 05:27 PM

#821

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Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan

everyone should post in bold red who they want killed
like this

dustin

and that is sort of your vote

yes you can lie but if a good president listens .. it gives us something to analyze

Yeah this isn't a bad way to handle it. It would certainly make later analysis helpful

One caveat though is that I think there's some value in it NOT being clear exactly who a pres candidate wants to lunch, because badguys can plan ahead by avoiding voting for pres candidates that want to lunch one of their badguy teammates

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08-24-2020 , 05:29 PM

#822

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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu

and of course the final stroke of genius and perhaps birdman's "message" if there is one is the way if the liberals succeed in getting rid of the communists, we're on the brink of fascism

no, a werewolf game can't have any message that isn't centered around mets and dustin

lolz

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08-24-2020 , 05:31 PM

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The vote count says Timmay is voting me but I think he voted batm. Spelling problem maybe. Not sure why vote batm but in any case dont vote me, I'm about to go to sleep without pre submitting anything.

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08-24-2020 , 05:32 PM

#824

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Originally Posted by shortline99

no, a werewolf game can't have any message that isn't centered around mets and dustin

lolz

if whomever is president kills dustbox, and he flips non liberal, i will be the most pleasant person tomorrow. i might just post pics of bunnies ill be so happy

PS

Congrats bro

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08-24-2020 , 05:32 PM

#825

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Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan

I don't think anyone is going to ever vote for you if you want to policy lunch someone for putting you on ignore. I don't know the extent of the history between you two but he's said he's already put you on ignore previously and I don't think it's wolfy of him to do the same here

I could see luckbox being a wolf here but I don't understand how you can be so confident of your read. Why so strong?

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