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08-26-2011 , 08:42 PM
i like a duckburg wagon
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08-26-2011 , 08:43 PM
mets if you weren't so ******ed with respect to pushing me still then i'd probably agree that you'd be a lock villager

but you seriously cannot still think that i'm a wolf here.

or that long nights are because i'm a wolf and i'm afk when there would still be 2 other wolves

but so far all you've done this game is reluctantly vote zayana d1 when you really pushed me and wanted supine lynched at EOD against 2 wolf wagons.

then you vote a villager against zayana the very next day

and you leave terrible seer cover that you'd never do as a villager
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08-26-2011 , 08:46 PM
mets would you like to actually speak to me other than say 'ur awful' and 'nice vote'.

all your pushing of me comes when i'm AFK and cannot defend myself.

when i'm here you conveniently ignore me and are just letting your blinders take place
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08-26-2011 , 08:47 PM
so I'm having a hard time agreeing that anyone could be seer hunt cleared this game but it could be that I'm just mostly used to mishmashes and not vanillas.

is there a different dynamic?

am i being a healthy amt of paranoid or just crazy

like with 2 seers alive and w/w wagons on n1 there's really no way they don't kill fnord bc of his peek right? unless they're just like wow w/w wagons we're kind of ****ed maybe we should fps a bit
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08-26-2011 , 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by rebonkulous
then his villager game has gone way down hill if thats the case

and there's no way in hell he's an obvious villager

what has he done to deserve that?
well for starters he started pushing zayana page 1 other than that tone/interactions/etc. it's just obvious whether he "deserves" it or not. he's had some good villa games but he's not exactly shortline.

you guys can argue to kingdom come who's more terrible than the other but you're v/v at the end of the day.

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Originally Posted by jonnyd
i like a duckburg wagon
me too, i think wolves are elliot/duck/jim and duck agrees

can't tell if that post feels more like a concession or an attempt at fakespew, but if we lynch them all in any order i think that might wrap up the game.

duck seems to have given up, elliot seems to have given up, jim is afk but i'm sure he's not going to blow us away with villageriness whenever he shows up.
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08-26-2011 , 08:50 PM
honestly this is my first long game but my thoughts would be that people who are actively trying to solve the game are almost definitely villagers bc wolves have got to be exhausted by now
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08-26-2011 , 08:50 PM
(thats me peeling off some of my tinfoil hate wrt some of the people in this game fwiw)

occams razor etc etc
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08-26-2011 , 08:52 PM
pretty sure UAW knew he was going down n1

I consider his spew about bsball to be anything but clearing

Plus god forbid we have Elliot making decisions down the line with his terrible reads so far

Elliot
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08-26-2011 , 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDean1
well for starters he started pushing zayana page 1 other than that tone/interactions/etc. it's just obvious whether he "deserves" it or not. he's had some good villa games but he's not exactly shortline.

you guys can argue to kingdom come who's more terrible than the other but you're v/v at the end of the day.



me too, i think wolves are elliot/duck/jim and duck agrees

can't tell if that post feels more like a concession or an attempt at fakespew, but if we lynch them all in any order i think that might wrap up the game.

duck seems to have given up, elliot seems to have given up, jim is afk but i'm sure he's not going to blow us away with villageriness whenever he shows up.
mets pushing zayana d1 is fine and all but like i said before, he didn't want to vote zayana when it came down to it, and given the fact that htere were w/w wagons he was pretty much forced into voting zayana
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08-26-2011 , 08:57 PM
chim has yet to post in this thread this game day but has been active in multiple other threads in POG and 2p2
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08-26-2011 , 08:57 PM
eh nm im dumb he hasn't posted since 9AM lol thread wasn't open yet. fail
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08-26-2011 , 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by jonnyd
honestly this is my first long game but my thoughts would be that people who are actively trying to solve the game are almost definitely villagers bc wolves have got to be exhausted by now
this generally holds true

it's almost like midgame of a mishmash in a way
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08-26-2011 , 08:59 PM
nobody's talking about supine being a wolf

is he clear for any reason?

if mets isn't a wolf, supine probably then is
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08-26-2011 , 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by rebonkulous
nobody's talking about supine being a wolf

is he clear for any reason?

if mets isn't a wolf, supine probably then is
but i say they probably aren't w/w based on d1
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08-26-2011 , 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by jonnyd
so I'm having a hard time agreeing that anyone could be seer hunt cleared this game but it could be that I'm just mostly used to mishmashes and not vanillas.

is there a different dynamic?

am i being a healthy amt of paranoid or just crazy

like with 2 seers alive and w/w wagons on n1 there's really no way they don't kill fnord bc of his peek right? unless they're just like wow w/w wagons we're kind of ****ed maybe we should fps a bit
mish mashes you just kill the strong/clear players early and kill power roles when they are peeked or claim.

vanilla wolfing is 100% about killing the seers because if they get too many peeks you lose. a 21er with 2 seers is brutal to wolf against and if you whiff a few times you're toast esp with no GF or miller.

FPS happens sometimes but most wolf teams play it straightforward since that's the best strategy. Why would the wolves kill fnord if they didn't think he was seer? Sun doesn't FPS kills and it would be esp bad considering that he might already be peeked or he may get peeked n1 by 2 different ppl.

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Originally Posted by treefiddy
pretty sure UAW knew he was going down n1

I consider his spew about bsball to be anything but clearing

Plus god forbid we have Elliot making decisions down the line with his terrible reads so far

Elliot
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Originally Posted by rebonkulous
nobody's talking about supine being a wolf

is he clear for any reason?

if mets isn't a wolf, supine probably then is
I cleared supine.
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08-26-2011 , 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by jonnyd
although that looks weird for supine.. if he was a wolf.. and wagons were w/w.. he could easily just vote whoever the wolf team decides they want to save plus get villa points for a few days for putting a decisive vote on a wolf

so basically if zaya is a wolf supine is as good as clear.. and if zaya is villager then that looks bad for supine but not as concrete..
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Originally Posted by jonnyd
OR maybe the wolf team really is just that unorganized or whatever (as exemplified by the nk) and wolf supine had no clue how to react to w/w wagons.

...meh
i marked these two posts i made in my notes.

its not the strongest, but i think it makes sense. i'm not sure why he wouldn't go for some villager points and put a decisive vote on a wolf as a wolf.
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08-26-2011 , 09:03 PM
well of the remaining players who would be the most FPSy wolves?

i mean i feel like mets and dean have to be up there

and if this discussion isn't worth having then thats fine.
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08-26-2011 , 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by jonnyd
so I'm having a hard time agreeing that anyone could be seer hunt cleared this game but it could be that I'm just mostly used to mishmashes and not vanillas.

is there a different dynamic?

am i being a healthy amt of paranoid or just crazy

like with 2 seers alive and w/w wagons on n1 there's really no way they don't kill fnord bc of his peek right? unless they're just like wow w/w wagons we're kind of ****ed maybe we should fps a bit
yes, sun should be cleared pretty much. he looked like fnords fakepeek, and with 2 live seers the wolves have to seer hunt n1.

however it is possible that fps happened with the killing of globe, though it is unlikely and shouldn't be considered for now.
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08-26-2011 , 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by jonnyd
well of the remaining players who would be the most FPSy wolves?

i mean i feel like mets and dean have to be up there

and if this discussion isn't worth having then thats fine.
mets would definitely not be a wolf in the case of FPS
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08-26-2011 , 09:04 PM
duck is a known wolf FPSer
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08-26-2011 , 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by rebonkulous
mets would definitely not be a wolf in the case of FPS
hmm yeah i guess he gets peeked so much as a wolf he really just has to kill them as fast as possible
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08-26-2011 , 09:05 PM
other than that i don't know

i think dean probably wouldn't but there's still a small possibility
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08-26-2011 , 09:06 PM
so i feel like over half of anarchists posts are parroting mets. i don't really know much about his game. i get the general feel that he is obv minimets, but a few questions

does he bus?
is he capable of being a high post count wolf?
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08-26-2011 , 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by rebonkulous
duck is a known wolf FPSer
hmm yah this rings a bell.
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08-26-2011 , 09:08 PM
and i'm not gonna lie i don't really read jim's posts. meh
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