woo

this is probably a good idea. im staying up another 16 minutes to get my next build in before i go to bed

i understand now btw why it doesn't really matter whether i switch to you or not- if you assume that i'm capable of thinking one level beyond the level that I was at

YAY

regarding seeing cover: I agree soah

i suck at giving seer cover. Hitch decides to not fake seer when he set himself up to. DMK made a few posts which meant he could not be the seer (i think i mentioned dmk did something that makes me question if he is a villager, because he usually leaves good seer clues).

But the villagers in general did a great job clearing themselves. And luckays peeks were good (assuming they were his peeks).

Very fun game. THanks KM

if i was alive i would have pushed soah hard the day after i died, mainly for trying to build a case against sun so early. Why was he doing that? Because if we followed the obvious lynch order he would lose?

If by some chance soah was a villager, then yes, we would have had to reevaluate sun. But the timing of soah's case against sun convinced me at that point that we were right and soah was a wolf with either dustin fcbl or val

i feel like having some argument with mets about fpsing but i wont

i just think its funny that hes saying villagers should fake seer right now

Dustin actuallly did seem pretty villagery at the end. I just couldnt believe sun and soah faked their fight earlier.

no im not really saying that. Im saying i agree with soah that nobody gave the seer cover. The villagers did a good enough job clearing themselves this game that with the seer dead after 2 peeks we had enough info to win the game, which is how it should work

Also: I am not saying villagers should necesary fake seer, but i agree that we did a bad job of making posts the seer could not make. Which is how you found luckay.

thanks

sun was just exuding villageness though it felt like to me and i was pretty sure i was losing

im curious to hear hitch's take to know if I had a better chance with him

one thing I want to say is that I really do like the slow game format and that we should do more of these

but it is pretty brutal on the wolves

that 3 day long d1 was rough. I felt like we had no chance after D1 and I am surprised that the game went to the final 3. Remaining villagery for that many days w/o lynching someone is hard to do.

In a faster format there are going to be certain days maybe you aren't around that much and able to escape attention, etc

also villagers:

Val - im sorry but your responses were super wolfy that day

fcbl - i have no problem with you playing an UTR style, it is your perogative. And I think you made 2 posts you would never ever make as a wolf, so i would have pushed to save you the day you were lynched if i was alive. But you cannot play an utr game and then be frustrated when "i wish i could convince you that i am a horrible villager" when your only read is hitch wolf which made no sense to any person alive in the game except for you.

Sun - the eat my shorts thing is kind of angleshooty, but its fine as long as you could do it as a wolf or as a villager. And from browsing your older games, it looks like you probably could. Just be careful -- we are not crazy about angleshooty stuff here in general. But again, it looked like a legitamate argument with soah, and it helped us win the game, so good job

this is true in almost every game. In the playboy game, i think i did an awesome job of staying villagery for 2 weeks, but after that it became real hard. The longer in real life time a game goes, the more advantage the village has imo (although hitch won the playboy game for us, which was incredible).

Maybe combining the slow game format with a post count restriction would help?

Anyways dustin, you did not lose because of the length of the game: You lost because villagers did an awesome job of clearing themselves. the last 4 lynches were pretty much decided after luckay died. You guys tried to change the villages mind cause you had to, but those 4 lynches made the most sense and you know it.

ya, i obviously didnt play well here at all

nj kokiri

tough break wolves. i said it in the beginning - i can't imagine the wolves winning this game. and that wolf-team was about as tough as it was going to get with the player pool too.

GG all. Thanks for modding KM!

thinking about it, i remember my major worry was that if you didn't go soah, i was going to have to get hitch to vote you, and i really didn't see how i was going to convince him. Lynching soah first meant that i would either be in the final 3 alone, or hitch would be there, so either way my life would be easier, although at the time my order of confidence in wolfiness was you>soah.

and thx KM, perfect modding.

Nice work village and thanks for modding KM.

You're all more than welcome. I will always be happy to mod a game for you guys. Just give me a PM whenever you need/want one.

yes, my biggest (of many) mistake was catagorically removing any doubt . I am still very much learning and that was my first attempt at drawing a NK as vanilliger, so hopefully I can get better.

Soah/Dustin/cue, I am pretty sure I get NK'd N1 if I don't out myself there, right?

I sent KM a PM that I'd vote sun yesterday, although I reserve that I would have spent more time /effort if I were alive. I think Sun was terribly wolfy at the start of f3, but that may be bacause I've never played deep into a game with him.

ty KM, well run

All, were my thoughts on Dustin/soah really that out wrt dustin not reacting when Soah doesn't die?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CW99Gyf59mc

enjoy km

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrtFwmunj3U

OMG - that's my cousin, Edie, who moved away when I was just a little cub. I heard she made it big in the dance world.

Mets

You "outing" yourself as not the seer was actually the strongest argument for killing you. But it was overcome by other factors. Mostly the same posts which I used to argue why you weren't a wolf. Then on n2 when I reread I became even more convinced it wasn't you although I don't remember exactly why.

yes they were 100% ridiculous

omg my read was right!!!

So should I fake-seer on d1? I really thought it was a good move, but I decided against it on general anti-FPS principles.

So, Who were Luckay's peeks?

I bet I was one of them.