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09-16-2011 , 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Chips Ahoy
I can see them all.

How I think this works:

Instead of starting with a bunch of power roles, the teams were given orbs with powers.

Now you want to pass the orb to somebody on your own team. For a wolf, that's easy. For a villager, it's easy too... but there will be stealing roles and other mechanics that can mess it up. Also, wolf kills and lynches probably destroy orbs.

So passing to the most obvious villagers can backfire. The best is if you can find a strong villager read that isn't a total consensus. Look to lesser name players.

The orbs will get knocked out of the game and we'll be left with vanilla in the end.
Easy game, pass them orbs to me, I'll make sure they get to Indiana Jones.
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09-16-2011 , 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by iamnotawerewolf
Seriously, do you people just see colors instead of reading?
Apparently.
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09-16-2011 , 03:14 PM
MOD NINJA EDIT FTL.
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09-16-2011 , 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by iamnotawerewolf
While we wait for Necro's spew analysis:

Chips, what Orb did I pass last night?
Dude, I don't see where every orb goes. That would be game breaking. I get one peek/night.
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09-16-2011 , 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Gadarene
Um, I assume someone else will have pointed this out by the time of this post, but...dude was a villa.
He was revealed as a wolf, then was edited to reveal his true role.
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09-16-2011 , 03:14 PM
MOD NOTE

Krayz subs for CPHoya
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09-16-2011 , 03:14 PM
Chips:

2) Who did I pass it to?
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09-16-2011 , 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Gadarene
Um, I assume someone else will have pointed this out by the time of this post, but...dude was a villa.
Mod nija edit. It first said that he's Godfried Godverdomme, a wolf (so mod posted the role that a seer would get for peeking him), then the post was edited to the real miller role. Cracked, loose and me posted before the edit.
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09-16-2011 , 03:14 PM
Loose is spewed villager now imo. If he was a wolf he wouldn't have given it to necro (a villager) just to end up having his team day vig necro.
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09-16-2011 , 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by crackedquads
Wow so necro's write up actually reveals a bunch:



Il Padrino could quite literally be a godfather (translation). Even if he's not, he's prob the best PR the wolves have.

Theres at least 3 languages for wolves: spanish, dutch, and french.

The godfather "Il Padrino" may be the middle man, perhaps wolves have to go through him to communicate?


Glad you're villa, btw.
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09-16-2011 , 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by crackedquads
Also I think this should probably be advised:

DO NOT CLAIM TO HAVE AN ORB

The wolves are hunting for them. Loose gave necro the orb, and necro claimed. Necro just got dayvigged (as a villager, btw).

Dunno what happens to that orb now but it's probably not good for us.
I would have put this as too obvious to need to be said, but actually I guess it needed to be said.
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09-16-2011 , 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by WinEvryRacex
He was revealed as a wolf, then was edited to reveal his true role.
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Originally Posted by derwipok
Mod nija edit. It first said that he's Godfried Godverdomme, a wolf (so mod posted the role that a seer would get for peeking him), then the post was edited to the real miller role. Cracked, loose and me posted before the edit.
Wow, that's kind of messed up.
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09-16-2011 , 03:16 PM
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09-16-2011 , 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by officedog
Ugh, this is going to take more time than I have to be really good reads.

*snip*
Really good and villagery post, and I agree with your reads. I don't think it's particularly important that Jim is peeked, at least not enough that we should be lobbying for him to get peeked.

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Originally Posted by XXsooted
Seems like important info for ppl not liking the "team" comment
TY for digging that up. It is in fact important.

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Originally Posted by iamnotawerewolf
Also: everyone saying "don't peek x" is not helping. Say who should be peeked and why (what the peek will tell us) if you actually want to help the village. Otherwise, it looks like you're trying to hide things.
Is it just me, or is explicitly telling the seers what to do counterproductive and giving the wolves too much info? Can't we just give our reads on players and opinions on who's been hard to read and let the seers decide for themselves?

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Originally Posted by Gadarene
Wolfy

sanga
Hoya
...
about first line. About second line, Hoya subbed out. I don't think you'd level us and pretend you didn't know Hoya was subbed out when you actually did, so it's interesting to note you missed that. If anything, I think it makes you and Hoya less likely to be w/w since I think you'd be more aware if a fellow wolf was getting subbed. Just a theory.

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Originally Posted by XXsooted
seemed like he was having fun which makes it more role neutral
Yes, Duckburg was having fun with his images yesterday, but he also seemed to be trying to participate as meaningfully as he can which is villagery. This, coming from a guy I've heard is always wolfy.

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Originally Posted by Larry Legend
Incoming TL/DR..
Note* I have lost both this multi-quote and a multi+ analysis (almost line by line) and I dont have the time or energy to do it all again. My notes will be brief but efficient.

berksonz = wolfy

jim is villagery
, kowboys is wolfy

this is where chips claims wolf

Overall I think these posts were some of the most important and influential for me for d1.
I have a lot more to say about this, but wanted to get it out there..

Villagery players:
Sangaman
IANAWW
Jim Halbert
Monikrazy
Forsy (in before, OMG, you saw my post that you always call me a wolf as a wolf)


wolfiest players:
kowboys
jjhender
cracked quads
berksonz
duckburg
chips ahoy
It may have been TL, but I didn't DR. This is a great post, yes it's long but it's faster than actually rereading D1. I really agree with your berksonz, chips, and jjhender reads and you cited interesting posts for each of them. Berksonz saying everyone who's a villa vote aces sounds so fake, and that's not how wagons should work.

I wasn't keen on lynching you today before this post, I'm definitely not lynching you today or in the near future after this post.
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09-16-2011 , 03:16 PM
lol when I first read that I saw wolf too, lol.

I would have been super impressed...didn't think a new wolf could play like that in this big a MM.

He did a good job of clearing himself. Has got to be a wolf shot.
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09-16-2011 , 03:16 PM
Chips I'm concerned about your role now. At least one orb started with a villager (loose, which I'm assuming is a villager) and was given to another villager (necro). Now, perhaps the village could use an orb tracker, but I think an orb tracker would more likely be a wolf role as the wolves are obviously trying to track down these orbs.
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09-16-2011 , 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Chips Ahoy
I can see them all.

How I think this works:

Instead of starting with a bunch of power roles, the teams were given orbs with powers.

Now you want to pass the orb to somebody on your own team. For a wolf, that's easy. For a villager, it's easy too... but there will be stealing roles and other mechanics that can mess it up. Also, wolf kills and lynches probably destroy orbs.

So passing to the most obvious villagers can backfire. The best is if you can find a strong villager read that isn't a total consensus. Look to lesser name players.

The orbs will get knocked out of the game and we'll be left with vanilla in the end.
Wait a sec,

If you can see them all.

Were there any wolfy passes that made no sense n1?
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09-16-2011 , 03:17 PM
why did CP sub out?
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09-16-2011 , 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by derwipok
****ing awesome shot whoever did that.
you slowrolled me cuz there was so much red in the pm
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09-16-2011 , 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by crackedquads
JFC Why so serious? I'm not attacking you, I'm giving you my opinion. You've been a fantastic villager when you try (re: HP3), and frankly you haven't been that here so far. If you legitimately think you have been then you're obviously missing something because several of the people itt also don't feel like you've been as good as you can be.
When you start with the assumption that I'm a wolf then you dismiss what I say. It makes it difficult for me to help. Like, should I push backwards reads so I can have a positive influence?

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There's a decent chance you are a villager and are just going to go pout in the corner, but given your self-admitted poor wolf play this is also what I'd expect you to do if you were a wolf: shut down, not help the village at all before you die, and essentially go into anti-spew mode.

If you're a villager and you be normal game owning chips, you'll get lock cleared in no time. I can't fathom why it's hard for you to understand that, or maybe it's just too hard for you to fake as a wolf?
I double dare you to do a complete reread on me. Then call this play anti-spew pouting.
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09-16-2011 , 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Arnold Ernst Toht
MOD NOTE

Krayz subs for CPHoya
Yay!

Krayz, the bad news is I'm already leaning wolf on you based on Hoya's posts. The good news is, we get a chance to test the circle of soulread for realsies this time. (Although everything I said about why I thought you were villa the last game was completely sincere, except I left out the part about how I was certain you were villa b/c I was a wolf. )
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09-16-2011 , 03:19 PM
I don't think it's a good idea to even say you just passed one, because the wolves may try to target who you think is villa. Maybe a few days later or if it's necessary, though.
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09-16-2011 , 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by WinEvryRacex
Wait a sec,

If you can see them all.

Were there any wolfy passes that made no sense n1?
It's kind of sounding like you have the strongest role in the game (for village anyway).

I mean, srsly. There is SO much spew in your role that it's actually insane.
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09-16-2011 , 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by hibiscus


What don't you dislike? His case on me?
The thought process for his case. I'm still undecided on you, but I dont hate the method he went about making the case.
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09-16-2011 , 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by WinEvryRacex
Wait a sec,

If you can see them all.

Were there any wolfy passes that made no sense n1?
I can't see them all at once.

Y'all need me to clarify so the wolves can make a perfect decision, I see:

I pick a player to peek.
I learn what orb they receive.

So if I peeked you last night, I'd know what you had today.
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