yup

***ATTENTION IMPORTANT***

It's also worth noting afaik that neither McGonagall, Lupin, Aberforth, nor obviously Ron or Hermione flipped with a role reveal that identified them as members of the Order of the Phoenix

so, as a character who is on that Primary OOTP Members list above, you should only consider speaking up to refute the #freespell thing IF YOUR ROLE IDENTIFIES YOU AS AN ORDER OF THE PHOENIX MEMBER, as confirmedtroll and benneh claim that theirs do

also, if you're Moody, Sirius, or Tonks and your role information DOES NOT identify you as an OOTP member, then this may be evidence that confirmedtroll and benneh are lying, because while McGonagall and Lupin are known foremost as teachers, and Aberforth is known foremost as the barman, Moody, Sirius, and Tonks would logically be identified as OOTP members. basically, if Kingsley's role information calls him an OOTP member, then there have to be at least a few more OOTP members whose information calls them OOTP members

and if there aren't, then confirmedtroll is probably lying

Long shot, but trying anyway.

you think this is a thing and none of the villagers dying until now have had that happen to them?

we did kill some villagers in the itas .. and most of them were not hero shots.

Jan, talk to me about Abraham.

He has by far left the least impression on me relative to postcount

each time, or just once?

there were four HP games other than those

you can tell by the numbering

This is actually a pretty cromulent thought

I like this post and think it is important that everyone read it.

like, this was KarmaDope's flip:

it identifies Lavender as a member of Dumbledore's Army

there should be characters identified as members of the Order of the Phoenix if confirmedtroll and benneh are telling the truth (it is a necessary but not sufficient condition)

Very good points

speaking of which if CT was a impossible to kill in ITA guy, they would have used the redirect on me to him.

Was CT when of smiths four targets? Who were the four targets again?

assumed each time

yes but it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to compare past games with different mods?

I've played Harry Potter games on 3 different sites. Should I go and fetch those for referencing as well?

Noticce that Brown was a VT and it was given to give flavor to a vt role.

What CT has claimed is a very strong actual role. No need for filler favor text like Browns.

I thought about it briefly but then forgot to caveat my post with it.

Now that I think about it, we had xander DEAD TO RIGHTS at the start of Day 4 (and Lord was high on the suspect list) and nothing triggered.

good post, Gad

Plus benneh was protecting effen for no real reason

I mean it is pretty much what I have said

Back to thinking Monte's more simple JP is some sort of two-lifer that triggers a revenge kill on his first death is a more sensible theory than mine.

Ok I said I was done talking about it but is anyone freaked out that jp is almost being logical right now?

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Votes	Lynch	Voters
6	BenjaminAO	Duckburg (55), No Lynches (83), Slow_Ben (100), lilrascal (84), Allundberg (135), BenjaminAO (83)
4	Jon Paul	Abraham deLacey (67), Yawn (46), theknightsofneeee (40), t om (30)
4	theknightsofneeee	Adam33 (12), loosekanen (20), dankhank (49), killer_kill (9)
3	Lissa2	Gamer Dude (48), Chips Ahoy (20), dmk (3)
2	brrrrr	dyachei (29), Lissa2 (66)
1	accobra_kid	UpsideDownChuck (11)
1	unvote	Aicirt (11)
10	not voting	aaronk56 (8), accobra_kid (15), brrrrr (23), confirmedtroll (22), fnord_too (33), Jon Paul (64), Onuzq (0), RAORoman (21), Riki (0), xander biscuits (30)
1	Error	Gadarene (61)

it's still quite interesting to me that Albus Dumbledore and Grindelwald were part of an explicit n/v masonry -- or, at least, that Grindelwald knew that Dumbledore was villa and that he was neutral

I wonder if Dumbledore thought Grindelwald was villa

probably he did, because of the win condition

kinda sucks to rand Grindelwald of the two of them, because Dumbledore basically has a win condition freeroll there, since he wins with the village and if he and Grindelwald collect all Deathly Hallows

it worked..

pretty likely that the wolves, or wolf!JP exclusively, has a role that when they are hit with a kill shot in ITAS that it is rebounded to a random non wolf, random villager, etc

i normally just wait until someone who knows benneh calls him out on d1 and he just dies if he is a wolf.

(benneh=abraham)

i can say that he might have the highest fluff-% in the game.

which is bad.

the fact that he overposted 2-3 days makes me think that if he is a wolf then it is part of his role.
if not then he is most likely just suicidal.

Like .. i don't remember a lot he did outside of knights and him cat-fighting.
He might have done more .. but I don't remember it and I am dodging reading him until I really have to because it takes way too long.