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04-24-2015 , 02:22 PM
wait, did ATM redact the angel thing?
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04-24-2015 , 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by insanity31
vix, benneh doesn't have any extra info regarding ATM's alignment fwiw and there can easily be a wolf attention whore

i don't really trust the "angel" part of his claim, but that could just be ATM ATMing
ya this is true

the angel part i'm not sure abot either. i have a chance to self-angel from deadly actions in my role but not angel others.
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04-24-2015 , 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by grant2
Here's my other issue with this:

I think it's likely that the protesters are, in large part, at least competent players.

Any competent player is going to target the 2nd wagon for a mob last night. Assuming CDL + WN are weighing down the "drooler" side of the intelligence bell curve, there was probably still 5+ more protesters who could still make the obvious choice to kill BATM last night.

The collective intelligence of the wolves would realize this, give him an angel (if they have one) and/or disperse the mob (if they have some kind of mob-infiltrator role)

This is a MUUUUCH more likely scenario than the one advanced by CDL, which involves the mob deciding to follow his stumbling lead and target a player who was under essentially -NO- suspicion yesterday (ME!), and also somehow the wolves presciently decided to angel me.

(it also implies that CDL thinks BATM/Pine/a few others are also villa, since they appeared to be much more likely targets for vigs last night than me)
And this is the kind of thing I do when I'm wolfing and caught by someone who I think is garbage or who did so in a garbage way, like domer in THE DOMERING (it was the latter in that game), demean their logic or thinking abilities, basically just argue that lol at anything this clown says, etc.
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04-24-2015 , 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by TheNothing
I don't think anyone coordinated those votes on mexi. Aside from mexi himself.
Are you saying that the late CFD stuff was villagers being rational? Just wondering.
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04-24-2015 , 02:24 PM
i'm gonna go into lurk mode until effen returns

already have way too many posts today
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04-24-2015 , 02:24 PM
lol grant. there was no reason to target batm. guy had a claim that was believable and seemed to be as much of the truth as he is physically capable of putting into text.
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04-24-2015 , 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by benneh
ya this is true

the angel part i'm not sure abot either. i have a chance to self-angel from deadly actions in my role but not angel others.
right, so if he's sticking with the angel part, then he decided that angeling chris was a good idea?

lol?
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04-24-2015 , 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by benneh
he's not repping a watcher claim

just some confusion with the language

i thought our role would be a watcher type as well when I first read it but mod clarified it for me

we get attention points for targeting people who have NAs placed on them

we also get points if someone places an NA on us

so BATM got 2 points yesterday. 1 is from LKJ visiting chris pine. the other we're not entirely sure, maybe from me visiting BATM.
What's the stuff about coordi visiting insanity all about then? I don't follow.
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04-24-2015 , 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by insanity31
effen, so you think they're both wolves or what

if so, why would they out that?
Actually, yes

Gabe and someone else did that in Disney I think as w/w
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04-24-2015 , 02:25 PM
also known as playing out the string, again the only thing he actually cares about in that post is whether we believe BATM should've been killed or not / whether we believe BATM is a wolf
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04-24-2015 , 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by grant2
Here's my other issue with this:

I think it's likely that the protesters are, in large part, at least competent players.

Any competent player is going to target the 2nd wagon for a mob last night. Assuming CDL + WN are weighing down the "drooler" side of the intelligence bell curve, there was probably still 5+ more protesters who could still make the obvious choice to kill BATM last night.

The collective intelligence of the wolves would realize this, give him an angel (if they have one) and/or disperse the mob (if they have some kind of mob-infiltrator role)

This is a MUUUUCH more likely scenario than the one advanced by CDL, which involves the mob deciding to follow his stumbling lead and target a player who was under essentially -NO- suspicion yesterday (ME!), and also somehow the wolves presciently decided to angel me.

(it also implies that CDL thinks BATM/Pine/a few others are also villa, since they appeared to be much more likely targets for vigs last night than me)
Interesting, but don't you think there might have been a line of thought in wolf camp that they might just be able to get BATM lynched rather than waste a kill on him?
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04-24-2015 , 02:26 PM
if anyone wins a vig please just eviscerate grant ASAP. its telling he hasn't claimed yet. Wolfchat doesn't have one they feel like using yet and he has already exhausted the chance of using the protester or attention whore claims.
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04-24-2015 , 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by TheNothing
What constitutes BATM acting like a wolf to you?
I feel like his involvement and passion in the thread are closer to his fatigued wolf game than his misjudged villager game.
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04-24-2015 , 02:26 PM
***ATTENTION***

If Miss Cleo was telling the truth last night about being able to give mexi a peek to pass to someone, and if mexi was telling the truth about giving it to a tontine member, then one of the following things has to be true:

1) Telc is lying

2) Hoya is lying

3) mexi somehow decided to rand the gift to zero-poster riverboatking, who remains entirely absent

I would like to be able to discount the possibility of #3 even despite mexi's drunkenness, but the remaining two options concern me a decent amount.

Or there's an incorrect assumption along the way. If Miss Cleo did give a peek to mexi and mexi passed it to someone other than the tontine member, you should obv claim it.
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04-24-2015 , 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by insanity31
vix, benneh doesn't have any extra info regarding ATM's alignment fwiw and there can easily be a wolf attention whore

i don't really trust the "angel" part of his claim, but that could just be ATM ATMing
What? When did he claim angel? I just skimmed over most of his posts from today.
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04-24-2015 , 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by LordJvK
Interesting,


Nothing grant is saying is remotely interesting. Also he keeps saying the same exact thing over and over again.
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04-24-2015 , 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by LordJvK
Are you saying that the late CFD stuff was villagers being rational? Just wondering.
Someone was tying to figure out if that Cfd could have been coordinated by wolves and I recall mexi popping in and dropping one of the wolfiest posts ing the game, therefore causing his own Cfd.

It was people reacting to a post, not sure if it was rational or not. Also not saying it has to be all villas, wolves would have jumped on that too. Especially if BATM is one.
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04-24-2015 , 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by vixticator
What's the stuff about coordi visiting insanity all about then? I don't follow.
i think he explained this earlier today

batm did not get any points from visiting insanity n0

therefore coordi did not peek or visit insanity

but then it gets really complicated because insanity got a point n0
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04-24-2015 , 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by grant2
I feel like his involvement and passion in the thread are closer to his fatigued wolf game than his misjudged villager game.
Okay thanks for answering
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04-24-2015 , 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by vixticator
What? When did he claim angel? I just skimmed over most of his posts from today.
it was at EOD yesterday; I'll find and quote it
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04-24-2015 , 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by CalledDownLight
if anyone wins a vig please just eviscerate grant ASAP. its telling he hasn't claimed yet.
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I tried to get people to claim.
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I tried to get people to claim.
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I tried to get people to claim.
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I tried to get people to claim.
If I must die today, so be it.

VILLAGERS DO NOT CLAIM UNTIL YOU ABSOLUTELY MUST.

Last hidden agendas, villagers DID DIE because they foolishly outed their roles.
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04-24-2015 , 02:29 PM
Gad, I didn't receive a peek, and no I'm not being cagey. I honestly think he randed it to rbk if telco isn't claiming it.
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04-24-2015 , 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by grant2
If I must die today, so be it.

VILLAGERS DO NOT CLAIM UNTIL YOU ABSOLUTELY MUST.

Last hidden agendas, villagers DID DIE because they foolishly outed their roles.
Spoiler:
YOU ABSOLUTELY MUST.

Your move.
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04-24-2015 , 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by benneh
i think he explained this earlier today

batm did not get any points from visiting insanity n0

therefore coordi did not peek or visit insanity

but then it gets really complicated because insanity got a point n0
So why did BATM say coordi did visit insanity?

This is why when all you do is lie, it's frustrating to believe anything. Ever.
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04-24-2015 , 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by benneh
i really don't get this yak

you're a smart dude. this is just werewolf. you worrying about mechanics so much is unsettling. you could just let anyone else like CDL, Gad, Effen, or anyone worry about mechanics while you try to find wolves and then crosscheck your reads with the mech clear list, but you don't appear to actually be doing that.
What I said, a lot of posts, being very busy IRL for the first two days and literally at least a third of the posts I read are about mechanical stuff. Lol at me all you want but I didn't even know there was a mech cleared list right now.
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Originally Posted by TheNothing
Im bothered by the mut/yak masonry. They both seem to have claimed and aren't trying. Yak just said he doesn't understand the game. It's still a werewolf game. What's to "understand"?
Whats to try ? We have a role that adds nothing except for 24/h talk. See my above post about the volume of uber boring mechanical posts, Im sorry if I suck but thats it for now. Will be back tonight for some real time stuff but gotta hop off to make food. effen.
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I mean. Masons do check out once they "clear" themselves but neither are doing anything so I think one or both are FOS.
We've tried yesterday and with CDL's help we'll probably exchange PMs once mutigers hits skype. Mutigers if you read this, send me your role PM with read delivery and Ill send you mine without checking yours out first obv or confirm and Ill send first, doesnt matter the way CDL said to do it.
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