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10-25-2010 , 01:39 AM

#14151

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Well, I was including "WER is a wolf" in with the "wolves have a role changing mechanism" grouping.

And I agree with WER being villagery. Dunno why he would have targeted you, though.

WER, who did you target last night?

Is there any point in not revealing this?

I can't think of one.

I randed quad.

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10-25-2010 , 01:41 AM

#14152

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oh i know what i can do with my role.

it really really seems like titan is vanilla but i guess i can 100% verify this by randing different people.

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10-25-2010 , 01:41 AM

#14153

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Originally Posted by WinEvryRacex

ohhh i get it, you are talking about the 1 altered night action.

If legend is a villager, and no one claims, the only thing I can think of is that the wolves altered someone's night action.

That's why I wanted to lynch quad first, there was pretty much no downside and between moni and me we could 100% verify legend's claim.

Problem is, a wolf with a redirecting or randomizing power could act in such a way as to level us, so I don't think the plan would have worked. But fair enough as far as lynching moni = bad, I guess.

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10-25-2010 , 01:42 AM

#14154

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i wonder if there are multiple wolves if that would make them want to kill swiitch tehre?

anyway i gotta go to sleep now i suppose. damn job

swiitch is seer clear and gets info about the game each night.
Who else would be a better target?

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10-25-2010 , 01:43 AM

#14155

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Originally Posted by WinEvryRacex

Is there any point in not revealing this?

I can't think of one.

I randed quad.

Eh, I dunno if there actually was one. I just think having more info out there to analyze in retrospect tends to be good.

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10-25-2010 , 01:44 AM

#14156

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Problem is, a wolf with a redirecting or randomizing power could act in such a way as to level us, so I don't think the plan would have worked. But fair enough as far as lynching moni = bad, I guess.

if that wolf was legend, there would have been nothing he could do.

if it's someone else then yeah, but at least whoever he's randing gets to do their NA. (although i think this is pretty insignificant)

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10-25-2010 , 01:46 AM

#14157

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Couldn't legend have simply not submitted his night action? I dunno if he'd just not get one or if the mod would rand it and then your rand would count... hadn't thought about the second possibility.

The plus is he'd lose his night action if he were a wolf. But depending on night action rulings, we might not have been able to clear him.

I dunno. I guess it's kinda moot now.

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10-25-2010 , 01:48 AM

#14158

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when i randed legend there was one changed night action

if legend is the wolf and doesn't submit a night action, it'll be 0.

meaning that his was the night action.

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10-25-2010 , 01:50 AM

#14159

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when i randed legend there was one changed night action

if legend is the wolf and doesn't submit a night action, it'll be 0.

meaning that his was the night action.

But if he's not the wolf, a different wolf could decide not to submit their action. Then we mistakenly peg legend, though I guess we'd get the bonus of the wolf randomizer/whatever not being used that particular night, for whatever that's worth.

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10-25-2010 , 01:52 AM

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Okay, I fail at HP mechanics, but here's what we have (last Tao post...did any RBs/action effectors die after this):

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Villagers
Brian - Arthur Weasly
Cadaz - Xenophilius Lovegood
Chips Ahoy - Dobby
chrisrjdk - Dennis Creevey
derwipok - Nearly Headless Nick
Duckburg - Cho Chang
ElliotR - Horace Slughorn
essedarius - Bathilda Bagshot
Evey Hammond - Remus Lupin
ewalsh420 - Dean Thomas
FCBLComish - Fleur Delacour
flytrap - Percy Weasley
goofyballer - Kingsley Shacklebolt
HiFi - Hepzibah Smith
karnelchik - Dirk Cresswell
Livedk - Ted Tonks
ludovic banhammer - Aberforth Dumbledore
LXThrottle - Elphias Doge
metsandfinsfan - Lily Potter
Neil S - Ginny Weasley
NewerShadow - James Potter
officedog - Cadmus Peverell
okse54 - Molly Weasley
pocketas227 - Cornelius Fudge
Predian - Charlie Weasley
reno expat - Augusta Longbottom
slownpainful - Grawp
thingyman - Fred Weasley
telcontar - Fat Friar
TimeLady - Bill Weasley
Titanrulez (back alive) - Mad-Eye Moody
TJT11/nymphadora - Lee Jordan
WhiteGoose - Kreacher
XXSooted - George Weasley
Youngplayer9 - Parvati Patil
hibiscus - Severus Snape
biggerboat - Padma Patil
Aaronk56's Son - Seamus Finnegan
Larry Legend - Neville Longbottom
Epicurus - Andromeda Tonks
xxaceshigh77xx - Antioch Peverell
G0tGame? - Mundungus Fletcher
well named - Filius Flitwick
aao - Ernie MacMillan
Luckbox Inc - Albus Dumbledore
Mark_K/|Omar Comin - Minerva McGonagall
globetrotter - Ron Weasley
Willd - Susan Bones
pvn/LivedK - Colin Creevey
Jonnyd - Pomona Sprout
HomerNoonJr - Nymphadora Tonks
The_GF - Hermione Granger

Wolves
kwami42 - Pius Thickneese
bogan4life - Gellert Grindewald
voracious reader - Pansy Parkinson
sun tzu - Yaxley
tobako - gregory goyle
fnord_too - Alecto Carrow
mrs jonnyd - Goyle Sr
darthrob64 - Thorfinn Rowle
minusEV - Peter Pettigrew
ibavly - Avery
vuroth - Vincent Crabbe
axel_nld/tigherthanU - Travers
dannyKGB - Draco Malfoy
MoneyMatt1 - Nagini
jjhender - Bellatrix Lestrange
J.D. - Lucius Malfoy
OnThInIcE911 - Selwyn
Forsythio - Fenrir Greyback
chuckleslovakian - Antonin Dolohov

Goblins
modkill - Griphook
rhmac1705 - Ragnok
Toganim - Gornuk

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night 1 - 1 action altered
night 2 - 2 actions altered
night 3 - 5 actions altered
night 4 - 3 actions altered
night 5 - 3 actions altered
night 6 - no result
night 7 - no result
night 8 - 1 action altered
night 9 - no result
night 10 - no result
night 11 - 1 action altered

Can anyone match anything up from that?

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10-25-2010 , 01:54 AM

#14161

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Tough to match stuff, since unfortunately not everybody has night actions every night, and so roleblockers/redirectors/randomizers can easily fail. But I'll look and see what we/they have had as far as roles go.

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10-25-2010 , 01:55 AM

#14162

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And obviously the night action results are crucial to that whole thing...I'm too tired to record all of them...just seems like it might bring something useful

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10-25-2010 , 01:56 AM

#14163

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night 4 - 3 actions altered

one of those was mine on rhmac (he was the goblin thief and i randed him, he 100% used his night action because he posted late in the day just to be able to use it, that's also why i targeted him)

lets see what the other 2 could have been, and whether jonnyd=rb was one of them

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10-25-2010 , 01:57 AM

#14164

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Wahoo is practically an outer wofl now.

I think he is the only one left too. He knew too much. I'll explain in detail when I get home.

Also legend is no longer cleared by Moni wolf spew.

I still trust wer.

Final wolves in wahoo/quad.

Please save up and peek me today, we may not be able to afford my lynch any more.

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10-25-2010 , 01:58 AM

#14165

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And I guess I'm fine with Quad too...just straight lynching UTRs has been nutty so far

but Eskimo NEVER wins an endgame, right?

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10-25-2010 , 01:59 AM

#14166

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Who has gold? Seriously I don't want to lose this game.

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10-25-2010 , 02:00 AM

#14167

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Legend please post a votecount.

Someone needs to peek me.

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10-25-2010 , 02:02 AM

#14168

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I have 1 gold. I don't think we can get to 20 today. We could possibly somehow get to 10 and then somebody could get an angel? But I guess it'd have to be public.

Can't remember what good stuff we can buy.

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10-25-2010 , 02:02 AM

#14169

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And seriously if wahoo is a wolf, it's the most epic wolf ever

not because he's played so well per se...but just the whole thing has been so flawlessly executed...right down to Tokyo going over the top with it and then holding back....srsly they should win if that's the case...but it NEVER is

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10-25-2010 , 02:03 AM

#14170

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Also:

Sun Tzu and chuckleslovakian both had write-ups that revealed them as wolf roleblockers.

J.D. was revealed as a wolf role redirector.

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10-25-2010 , 02:04 AM

#14171

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[0] dkgojackets
[0] dnkyhunter31
[0] Legend42 voted for eskimo sickness
[0] m1ke/PoBoy123/PlzBeALevel
[0] mcavoy
[0] Quadstriker
[0] Senor Cardgage
[0] Titanrulez
[0] TomVeil
[0] wahoopride voted for eskimo sickness
[0] WinEvryRacex
[2] eskimo sickness

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10-25-2010 , 02:05 AM

#14172

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Also, sigh, nobody died as Barty Crouch. Which is the role that posed as Mad-Eye Moody. Which, while I'm not ready to vote for him, at least makes him slightly unclear. I guess. Though obviously nobody has died as Moody either, or we'd have been all over it.

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10-25-2010 , 02:07 AM

#14173

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someone stated this before, but we apparently can earn any gold for counts before noon

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10-25-2010 , 02:10 AM

#14174

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Never mind. Just went back and checked, Titan vig'd someone the night he died, so in addition to being a godfather he'd also have to be a wolf vig. While the resurrection stone isn't 100% total complete forever-and-ever proof that he's a villager, I'd be downright shocked if he wasn't really Moody.

So, never mind.

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someone stated this before, but we apparently can earn any gold for counts before noon

Can or can't? On the first day, I know it had to be after noon, but I never paid attention to whether that still held on subsequent days.