And more to the point, he didn't just drop the peek (twice), he had a conversation with me that made it very plain that not only was CP his peek but it should be obvious to me.

YOU DID NOT SERIOUSLY ****ING LYNCH NOLEMON

ARE YOU ****ING KIDDING ME

YOU'RE ALL ****ING WOLVES

SCREW THIS GAME

monstrman is off my villa list

votes nolemon and doesn't post in the last 10 mins - he doesn't usually have a problem posting at EOD

sketch as ****

SKETCH AS ****

and wtf @ Saturday being 1 day

that has never been a thing on POG

jesus christ..........................

Chill, thingy. I've had enough aggro for tonight.

Can we chat calmly about some things? Let's start with your current reads?

I'm just reading through again but will do a list when I'm done, I think.

I feel that I need to state that I had yesterday moved nolemon from villa reads to top of my neutral reads, but it was still a ****ty lynch. At least 6 better options to choose from. Such a copout lynch. She wasn't being seriously discussed when I left the thread, where the hell did that come from. And mostly I'm disappointed in some of the people voting for her.

Anyways... My current reads are exactly like they were when I posted a list yesterday:

With the exception of monstr ofc. Throw him down to neutral pile.

Ugh. Those reads are ugly. I'm kinda hoping you're a villager but we're way way apart. I mean, I haven't played for a while and I never have that great reads early in a game but this game is going to be hard if you're a villager and we can't get consonant.

They aren't ugly at all.

Where do we disagree?

Unless you peeked silman you have him way too high. Mets too high. Monstr too high. Probably all your wolves too low bar gamer.

I think I'm something like:

Chris Pine
IAmRobik
baudib1

Thingyman
killer_kill
ElliotR
Telcontar
TheBrokenATM
KruZe

Silman
monstrman
Gamer Dude
metsandfinsfan

Okay, those reads aren't fully updated. They're more like this now:

Thingyman
Silman
Monkey Banana
IAmRobik
baudib1
monstrman
TheBrokenATM!
killer_kill
metsandfinsfan
Chris Pine
ElliotR
Telcontar
Gamer Dude
KruZe

That middle group has some thin thin **** behind it though.

You positively must tell me why you're NOT leaning wolf on ElliotR, Telcontar and KruZe.

Elliot's posting was just not like his wolf game at all in my view. He gave reads, he interacted, he seemed forthright and engaged. I mean, there wasn't a TON of stuff there but what there was is solid. Not turning up for d2 is kinda bad but I don't think it's dispositive.

Telcontar is just doing enough from what I saw. He's probably player most likely to shift position when I reread d2 but his d1 was okay. I don't really know his game well enough to judge him on meta and I didn't see anything I really disliked.

Kruze was rubbish on d1 but had a couple of villagery posts d2. It's not much and he could sit in a group of his own just above the wolves. tbh, I could be convinced he's a wolf purely because I usually clear him very very easily when he's a villager and I haven't felt it.

I actually had the horrible feeling someone had written one of his posts for him.

Can you quote which ones?

I was looking through and found quite a few posts I think are villagery for one reason or another but then I started thinking, well Thingy might not know Kruze well enough to get why these are villagery.

I can quote them if you really want and explain but it seems like the outcome is likely to be you saying I don't find them that villagery and me saying take my word for it they are for kruze.

It's hard for me to review cuz I'm on my phone at the poker table but I'm really into lynching someone off the lemon wagon, especially anyone on both lemon + Yamato wagons.

Here's a for instance:

It's just echt Kruze. Would he ever think to say something like this if he was woofing?

Or for instance pushing Chris Pine. If he's a wolf he knows they thought CP was peeked. (Or some amount of the time, CP is a fellow wolf and they are all clear that CP was "peeked".) He could fake derp but would he think to do that?

His reads are coherent and consistent and he seems to have plenty of them. As a wolf, I'd expect him to either limit what he says or spray too many reads and have them not be consistent.

I mean, I'm not totally feeling it or he'd be nearer the top. And that's slightly worrying because usually I clear Kruze easily. I wonder though whether I would have done if the game started on d2.

I think it's hard to read too much into the Yamato wagon because the counterwagon was also a villager. I'll go get two lists for you though.

d1

d2:

Actually, feel free to lynch the people on both lists but tbh voting Redd is the same as voting yamato, possibly even worse since the wolves nked Redd.

Monkey is a wolf or trolling

I'm speechless

Thanks nana

I feel like the vast majority of bickering is V-V cuz a lot of it involves people I have as solid vill. I always assume the more sustained and vocal feuds rarely involve wolves.

But if there's not at least one wolf among few sitting back idk wtf. I'll have to reassess my while vill list.

I've seen people say they don't like to lynch inactives but to me clearing out the deadwood is good because puzzling out people who disappear during crucial is all but impossible the deeper we get.

Usually I have a pretty solid wolf group but I can't even come up with 4 lunches I love. I think this points to pretty experienced wolves but I'm not familiar enough with anyone's history to say who that would be.

I think I like an Eliott lynch still, but the way Lemon's wagon took off REALLT bothered me. Monstr's point that we can't tie Eliott to more wolves is a fair point but at the moment id just really feel better if we could find ONE.

I could go for a gamer lynch too but I thought his EOD performance the other night was pretty villager.