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12-10-2014 , 03:54 PM

#6026

TheNothing

the knees of nothing

Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 42,425

i am inconclusive about whether telcontar can be an orange wolf or not

at first glance, it looks like YES he can be

Here is Gamer going hard at baudib

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gamer Dude

well first of there is the whole killer thing he was constantly pushing than suddenly made a 180 on that front and is suddenly ride or die with him.

He generally makes post like this

where he tries to use players meta to bury them or this

where he tries to discredit's people's read on him

he's OMGUS irt to my read on him.

he's tried to discredit the sili peek the best he can

he tried rationalizing being off wagon last night where he was another villager, one he should have ample amount of experience with.

cory and monstr did not come across as wolfy to me yesterday so his suspicious was also misplaced there imo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Telcontar

This is a really good post from Gamer.

Villager

telc likes it

[QUOTE=Telcontar;45486179]

Quote:

Originally Posted by baudib1

here are the MQs I had on monstr if anyone is interested

I went back 3 games and through about 900 posts of Monstr and couldn't find him consistently doing this

Thanks for posting this. I feel even better about you now

and i know it's not strange but he liked that gamer post about baudib but now he feels better about baudib

as far as gamer mentioning telc, this is all i had:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gadarene

anyway, i'm out for a while

might pull up LKJ villa posts for comparison when i get back

there are also a LOT of people skating UTR (e.g., ianaww, winged kuriboh, Telc, BATM-who-has-done-literally-nothing-but-complain-about-people-finding-him-wolfy-and-make-derp-posts) who need attention, just so people don't forget about them

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gamer Dude

I continue to forget Telc is in this game

he forgets about him, which is fair bc i kinda did too

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gamer Dude

not to be that guy but doesnt Alot have to shoot Telc ?

and this is after alot messes up his ITA

this is why i'm not sure bc if telc is with gamer on the orange team, would he speak out like this?

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12-10-2014 , 03:55 PM

#6027

TheNothing

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Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 42,425

Quote:

Originally Posted by zdye724

You get nothing

If I could have my shot back I would shoot you

i award myself points & will revel in them at my leisure

you should be thankful that i had to rile you up

Quote:

Originally Posted by baudib1

I mean IDK, maybe top 5. i just demoted you for no reason.

lol'd

Quote:

Originally Posted by LKJ

hey now

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12-10-2014 , 03:55 PM

#6028

baudib1

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that ITAs comment could just be a role-neutral mechanics nittery thing from Gamer.

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12-10-2014 , 03:56 PM

#6029

TheNothing

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Quote:

Originally Posted by baudib1

that ITAs comment could just be a role-neutral mechanics nittery thing from Gamer.

true

and if we take it that way

then telc could very well be a teammate

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12-10-2014 , 04:01 PM

#6030

JC Denton

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Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 1,292

Votes from post 5393 to post 6029
Night in 5:59:54
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Votes	Lynch	Voters
3	Telcontar	GatorJH (46), Hallia (6), Sili (33)
2	Gamer Dude	TheBrokenATM! (20), Alot (12)
2	bright_sensor	LKJ (69), baudib1 (131)
1	zdye724	Montecore (69)
1	Maki_	CPHoya (45)
1	baudib1	bright_sensor (24)
1	CPHoya	KruZe (1)
1	unvote	TheNothing (49)
6	not voting	Darthe (35), Gamer Dude (0), killer_kill (0), Maki_ (11), Telcontar (5), zdye724 (41)
1	Error	_Cass_ (20)

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12-10-2014 , 04:02 PM

#6031

zdye724

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JC Denton

Votes from post 5393 to post 6029
Night in 5:59:54
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VotesLynchVoters
3 Telcontar GatorJH (46), Hallia (6), Sili (33)
2 Gamer Dude TheBrokenATM! (20), Alot (12)
2 bright_sensor LKJ (69), baudib1 (131)
1 zdye724 Montecore (69)
1 Maki_ CPHoya (45)
1 baudib1 bright_sensor (24)
1 CPHoya KruZe (1)
1 unvote TheNothing (49)
6 not voting Darthe (35), Gamer Dude (0), killer_kill (0), Maki_ (11), Telcontar (5), zdye724 (41)
1 Error _Cass_ (20)

Doesn't look like Monte is interested in lynching a wolf or a newt iyam

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12-10-2014 , 04:03 PM

#6032

LKJ

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Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 93,732

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darthe

Lol'd.

LKJ what are your thoughts on Sili/Hally/Cass?

Hally claimed the mason spot with Alot, so she's 99% clear unless she gets cc'd. Sili is probably peeked, so again very likely clear.

I would have to put more time into reading Cass. Will make an effort to do that sometime before EOD.

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12-10-2014 , 04:04 PM

#6033

Darthe

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Yeah, I was hoping that you could give me a bit of thoughts on them in general, not just alignment stuff. Like, say, how they're doing on reads etc?

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12-10-2014 , 04:05 PM

#6034

zdye724

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I think Cass has been pretty pure toan wise

Obviously the strangers in this game might have more pertinent meta with her (him?) so that would be nice to hear

I'm more interested in bright sensor, I might go skim his work in the Phoenix game just to compare

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12-10-2014 , 04:05 PM

#6035

baudib1

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Does LKJ still have me at "STFU"

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12-10-2014 , 04:06 PM

#6036

LKJ

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Originally Posted by baudib1

Does LKJ still have me at "STFU"

Nah I liked that last joke.

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12-10-2014 , 04:07 PM

#6037

baudib1

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I have some thoughts on Cass that will take some time to work through and I'm going to a meeting.

She's at least clear from the red wolves IMO

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12-10-2014 , 04:08 PM

#6038

Darthe

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zdye724

Sensor would be good to see an ISO on.

Cass has only been in a few games so I don't know how much meta is available there but my experience with her (granted I was mafia and she had Monstr helping her) is that she was really good at logically progressing through reads and compiling info into clear statements. She posted more in that game than this one but this is a much more confusing game.

If anybody wants record of that game Sili linked it earlier.

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12-10-2014 , 04:09 PM

#6039

Telcontar

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Hey guys

So i'm lead wagon I see

and with 3 people on there who i have never heard of before. awesome

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12-10-2014 , 04:09 PM

#6040

LKJ

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Darthe

Yeah, I was hoping that you could give me a bit of thoughts on them in general, not just alignment stuff. Like, say, how they're doing on reads etc?

Oh, well all I really care about is their alignment honestly. I couldn't name almost any of their reads outside of managing to remember how they're reading me.

I do tend to scroll past posters I don't know and read a bit more with players I do know. Glad we have new players here and I hope you all stay, but without meta I just don't pay as much attention to you.

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12-10-2014 , 04:09 PM

#6041

TheNothing

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Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 42,425

Quote:

Originally Posted by zdye724

Doesn't look like Monte is interested in lynching a wolf or a newt iyam

he did kill redd yesterday

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12-10-2014 , 04:12 PM

#6042

Telcontar

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[QUOTE=TheNothing;45495781]i am inconclusive about whether telcontar can be an orange wolf or not

at first glance, it looks like YES he can be

Here is Gamer going hard at baudib

telc likes it

Quote:

Originally Posted by Telcontar

and i know it's not strange but he liked that gamer post about baudib but now he feels better about baudib

as far as gamer mentioning telc, this is all i had:

he forgets about him, which is fair bc i kinda did too

and this is after alot messes up his ITA

this is why i'm not sure bc if telc is with gamer on the orange team, would he speak out like this?

If gamer is a wolf, I am not on the same team as him.

I guess people are just completely ignoring my claim then ?

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12-10-2014 , 04:12 PM

#6043

Darthe

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LKJ

Fair, I think a lot of people do that (myself included). How does that not become a crap-shoot in the late game though?

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12-10-2014 , 04:13 PM

#6044

Darthe

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Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 1,755

Quote:

Originally Posted by Telcontar

Hey guys

So i'm lead wagon I see

and with 3 people on there who i have never heard of before. awesome

I'd love to see a rebuttal of some of the points against you.

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12-10-2014 , 04:14 PM

#6045

baudib1

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Hi telc:

Not ignoring just find it slightly suspicious.

I'm rooting for you to clear yourself.

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12-10-2014 , 04:15 PM

#6046

LKJ

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Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 93,732

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darthe

Fair, I think a lot of people do that (myself included). How does that not become a crap-shoot in the late game though?

Can always reread late as needed. Hell, sometimes it helps a read to not be married to one for five days before endgame happens.

But again, if two of the three you named are largely mechanically clear anyway, it wouldn't be a crapshoot at the end because they'll probably be dead.

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12-10-2014 , 04:15 PM

#6047

Telcontar

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Darthe

I'd love to see a rebuttal of some of the points against you.

if someone could put all the points in a nice little neat post for me, I would gladly attempt to rebuke every single one of them!

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12-10-2014 , 04:16 PM

#6048

Telcontar

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in the meantime, I'll continue to find wolves

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12-10-2014 , 04:17 PM

#6049

zdye724

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheNothing

he did kill redd yesterday

Sounds like he's got significant orange equity then

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12-10-2014 , 04:17 PM

#6050

TheNothing

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Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 42,425

Quote:

Originally Posted by Telcontar

If gamer is a wolf, I am not on the same team as him.

I guess people are just completely ignoring my claim then ?

i've already ruled you out of the red wolf pack

but i can't rule you out of the orange pack

can you tell me why you can't be a wolf with gamer?

Quote:

Originally Posted by baudib1

Hi telc:

Not ignoring just find it slightly suspicious.

I'm rooting for you to clear yourself.

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