fraley, for the record, here are the players ITT who identify as female:

Hi-Fi
Kawamii
Quick_Ben

Lol. Hope this is good robik.

Sure. And everyone who doesn't do exactly what you tell them is a wolf.

I'd like for you to make your next five posts while standing on one leg. If you don't provide video proof, you are a lock wolf.

Qb is really a female or is this a joke?

If this was a ship instead of a village we would be dead long time ago

The Quick_Ben part is a joke. The other two identify as female last I knew.

This is your first interaction with QB that I can see, anything behind this vote at that point?

Both pretty meh reasons but jumping on, again with pretty much your first interaction in the space of 20 posts?


Found this row of posts pretty interesting. The back and forth between Fraley in this period seems a bit 'off' too but I'm not sure why?

Again if I'm miles wide of the mark let me know why.

Aos,

read on bopo so far?

quick note before you read this for those unfamiliar with me outside of turbos - this post format is how i catch up on the thread when I'm behind in non-turbo games. i do it as both a wolf and a villager. a lot of times people automatically give me villager or wolf reads based on format alone, which is really stupid. so judge me based on its content, not its form

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thebrokenatm

up to this pt in the thread, which is very early, kawa looks good and bop does not

but is robik a good enough villager to make this type of read or is it more likely coming from a wolf thats trying to justify their TMI read?

i find this post wolfy. its like trying too hard to prove he's a villager by calling someone else a villager who is throwing shade on him. which makes sense in my head but I'm not sure if i articulated that well. this just seems a lot more like a wolfy snap reaction - like he's trying to prove he can read people 'objectively' despite being called a wolf, rather than a villager reaction

nice. i like this not just because it agrees with my own thoughts, but also the directness with which he's calling out bop is not likely the way a wolf would do it



this seemed like a suspicious pop-in. didn't add anything. will be monitoring QB


this felt natural, though its thin


meh. i had the same reaction as a villager, but i suspect it'd also be the easiest line to take as a wolf.


I'm declaring official villager status for fraley

this felt odd from rawrs. something to remember if bop ever flips wolf imo - this attack on fraley seems out of nowhere. although idk if its based on some meta they have

this is horrible because wolves are obv more likely to "make an effort to make themselves seem like villagers"

I've never seen this tone from lord before. has he evolved? this is like a troll-y form of lord that i didn't think he was capable of

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as I'm reading on, he seems quite serious and not troll-y at all, so never mind



start of page 2 is a complete mess with this lord/kawa/rawrs back and forth and should be read as neutral since its more personal than game-based

not sure what to think of all these vigg short posts. its replicating his free-flowiness as a villager, except as a villager i feel like he makes longer posts with more substance instead of having more posts that are short. thin

if someone is already always a villager, why would you need to see them do anything?


kinda got the same vibe from lord

also kawa could easily post this much as a wolf and I'm sure she has before. its not like she's been posting content so far


also, fran seems good so far



you don't like someone calling their reads thin on early d1?

bopolis



a good d1 policy lynch would be to lynch someone who you think is a wolf



how come you felt this was the most pressing discussion point at this time in the thread?

I'm curious

not sure if good read or tmi

i don't think he is talking to you like that at all

eh

a lot of people put themselves at the top of their lists, more for organiation than anything else. also he didn't put himself on the 2nd place in his list, he put himself at the top

this is a bad reason to vote someone


i think batm iis generally more likely to react by calling someone bad than calling someone a wolf

but we'll see

he has like 3 posts at this point in the thread, and they are all pretty short. id agree that they've been good but I'm sure he could make similar posts as a wolf

thats pretty random. why does it matter that killer was on the list?

who cares that he listed bop twice?

who cares about the list in general?

people are focusing way too much on that, when its more of a stylistic thing than a role-indicative thing.

disagree with your bop v lord analysis

and yes id obv like to see Rebuteo post more, which is why i asked him a question earlier in this post

hifi has like 2 posts which are inconsequential - its strange that you and robik have both formed such strong opinions on her this quickly

i disagree with the every notion that fraley's comment required this much analysis, and i disagree with the analysis itself

it was obviously a meta-based comment and you're treating it like every player is objective and in a vacuum. he was saying he doesn't think lord specifically would push vigg specifically. he wasn't saying any wolf wouldn't push any villager. it was a player dependent read and should not be analyzed in a vacuum

also I've already declared fraley is a villager, so this rubs me the wrong way anyways. there was nothing wrong with that specific comment, which i actually agree with

and this is another thing he's noticing that i noticed too

and shocker, it was a meta-based read!


i don't wake up early in the morning

also im not sure if we've ever played a non-turbo together

dislike

the post you quoted did not have an argument. it can't make sense or not make sense. it was just a read. you could call it wrong or incorrect, but you can't say it doesn't make sense when he didn't even make an argument in it

that was fast

i don't get how there is so much talk over someone who has barely posted

i don't get how you formed a strong defense of her in the first place, or how you dropped that defense

confused jcohen

same page



and now I'm caught up

Meh, I gave up on trying to find the quotes from hifi in that game, but if you recall, she spent the whole time hard pocketing AAO. Going so far as to apologize for hard pocketing him before night killing him (and doing the same in post game).

Now look at how she's interacting with lord this game:

Given her successful pocketing antics last game, after this post from Lord:

I came to the conclusion that she would take it as a personal mission to pocket him. It's like she takes pride in this aspect of her wolf game and takes his statement as a challenge. Note that the aforementioned post was #204, and her 2 posts were #205 (intro) and #215 (post basically hard clearing lord --> in the same manner she took up her hard defense of aao).

QED WOLF WOLF WOLF SHE'S A WOLF AND WE SHOULD KILL HER

i think your miles wide of the mark because your own analysis is ending with ?s instead of .s

as a villager, all you need to do is explain your thoughts. you don't need to say 'I'm not sure why" - you can just sit back and think about it for 20 seconds and then post whatever is in your head

its your thought process that is important, moreso than your conclusion at this stage

so tell us what you are thinking. don't tell us "this seems off but I'm not sure why." if something seems off to you, there is obviously a reason. just think about it and then post that reason. we need to see how you are thinking and how you are making conclusions on players

robik

its way too early to be recruiting votes for someone. on early d1, we should be focusing more on breadth than depth. it wouldn't do us any good for the entire thread to vote the same way right now - its better for everyone to just vote whoever they are most suspicious of at this point

there is plenty of time for consolidation later

I didn't read your whole big catchup post jcohen, but i think you're a villager for this:

I find myself feeling that way as a villager way more than a wolf and always feel the need to explain that I feel this way as a villager but not as a wolf.

Yeah sorry, it mainly just seemed very softballing, especially the 'people putting themselves on villager lists' fluff.

My main concern is distracting the village on stuff that may be more obvious to others, so I wanted to convey the unsure I had at that point.

Consolidation later leads to CFDs that end in seers having to claim and stupid **** like that. I'd rather have people know how I feel and hop on board early so that we don't let the 100%!wolf out of our grips

unvote

not a huge fan of this read robik. if you're on to something i dont see it.

It was the first/only thing I'd found at that time through pure interactions/mechanics and I wanted to bring it up. Again, with no history with any player in here day 1 will be tough for me, so I'm attempting to make notes on things like that as I go and raise tham as and when it seems appropriate, much like the interaction you commented on above.

I see Kawa came back, posted a lot of nothingness and ignored it though.

Rebuteo, please bold and red 5 people who are most likely to be a wolf. You don't have to explain why, and if you don't have 5, just color the extras in orange. You don't have to be right either, as this is just an exercise.


Ace of Spaids
bopolis
DWetzel
fraleyight
FranFran
HiFi
IAmRobik
jcohen
Kawamii
killer_kill
LordJvK
Quick_Ben
Rebuteo
ShipItUp
SirRawrsALot
TheBrokenATM!
Viggorous

You guys, i put my list the way i did for a reason. i will post it again here

aos
me
batm
lord

QB is short for Quick Ben

don't be concerned about distracting us. the main thing every villager can do is to form opinions on others and give reasons for those opinions so we could all see

so whenever something catches your attention as being suspicious, you should point it out

meh

i suppose if i was super confident in a single wolf read i might be taking a similar line. i know i would be on d2 and beyond. d1 id rather start with a wider array of everyone though, and I'm not really that worried about any cfd or eod chaos because we're not likely to lynch a wolf on d1 anyways. basically on d1 i care more about the process than the result

also the seer should not be claiming under any circumstance on d1, no matter what happens

You're trying too hard to be noticed bro. Go look at how I did it. Subtle, didn't talk about it. didn't point it out. when people brought it up, i basically just ignored them and said "let's talk about other **** that's actually important."

I like cohens long post. either its a pocket attempt or a mind meld. It feels genuine though.

You're spending too much time trying to teach him how to play. Spend more time discerning his alignment imo.