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04-06-2012 , 12:55 PM

#2551

kokiri

ffermwr moch

Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 52,228

Quote:

Originally Posted by CalledDownLight

but your honor code is no more or less correct than anyone else's. its a personal decision. if someone else is bound by a code that forces them into -ev decisions that you dislike would you criticize them?

this is right - that's why the community has to work out what the norms are regarding standards of play and behaviour, and it's an ever evolving balance. It's as true of gimmicks as it is of Hoya/Chim's argument about competitiveness, ofc.

04-06-2012 , 12:55 PM

#2552

CalledDownLight

Toonces the Posting Bot

Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 88,413

Quote:

Originally Posted by chim17

What about my extra tool to use post?

it seems smart, but I dont know why people would ever clear someone for something that they werent before they knew their name. If you want to imitate another player you can do so.

04-06-2012 , 12:55 PM

#2553

CPHoya

Warden of Taipan Island

Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 73,265

Quote:

Originally Posted by HomerNoonJr

IMO it's very important for every player to get mislynched a couple of times in their career, call it a vaccine for wwwankeritis.

Isn't it also important for every player to try to be persuasive instead of the community ethos enforcing a rule that when someone is uncomfortable it is important that other players take it easy on them?

04-06-2012 , 12:55 PM

#2554

metsandfinsfan

banned

Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 160,445

Quote:

Originally Posted by CalledDownLight

grey area. Its a mod mistake to ever ever use a rule like that though. I learned that a while ago.

So you would do it

I wouldn't

You like loopholes

I want ironclad rules

04-06-2012 , 12:56 PM

#2555

metsandfinsfan

banned

Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 160,445

Quote:

Originally Posted by kokiri

Agree

04-06-2012 , 12:57 PM

#2556

chim17

Snowboarding concerts and punk music

Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 56,128

Quote:

Originally Posted by kokiri

Agree. Just trying to change the norm and help the community evolve. It may not be desirable and fail. I feel passionate enough about this to try though.

04-06-2012 , 12:57 PM

#2557

metsandfinsfan

banned

Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 160,445

Quote:

Originally Posted by CPHoya

Remember when u hardseerhunted me in the thread but still didn't kill me?

OWNED

04-06-2012 , 12:58 PM

#2558

CPHoya

Warden of Taipan Island

Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 73,265

Quote:

Originally Posted by CalledDownLight

hoya, what do you mean accommodate them? like allow them to keep playing? youre allowed to whine imo. its not pleasant but its certainly well within the rules to do so in a game thread. if people are too weak to lynch someone they think is wolfy because it might cause them to breakdown in real life then thats just people playing suboptimally and being soft.

What I mean is it is obvious that the community has evolved to value "friendliness" to such an extent that it is regarded as poor behavior to be a pitbull about things in WW games. That is a true statement of POG WW today. It's a terrible development.

04-06-2012 , 12:58 PM

#2559

Dirk Nowitzki

adept

Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 913

Also agree with CDL that I would modkill someone that clearly posted at :01 as an angleshoot

04-06-2012 , 12:59 PM

#2560

TheDean1

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 35,900

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krayz

yes but I still don't get what he's aiming at

but i'm probably stupid

the role of the wolves is to be dishonest, and the role of villagers is to catch them in an act of dishonesty

naturally there's going to be some inevitable v/v friendly fire

villager x makes a post and villager y accuses villager x of being dishonest. villager x takes offense because they have been falsely accused of dishonesty, which basically mandates that wolf hunting only be allowed with 100% success rate. POG deems this to be an acceptable reaction.

obviously if villa y is too in the face of villa x it can be annoying, but a fair amount of villagers take offense to very reasonable accusations.

04-06-2012 , 12:59 PM

#2561

CPHoya

Warden of Taipan Island

Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 73,265

What I'm getting at is "mean" in POG has taken on a definition that is objectively counter to the point of Werewolf, and it's obviously a problem.

04-06-2012 , 12:59 PM

#2562

well named

poorly undertitled

Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 78,085

I believe the stickied "basic rule set" already mentions something about lying being expected and all that

I'm willing to expand it a bit more to point out that players need to be able to not take accusations of wolf-hood as personal attacks on their character

04-06-2012 , 12:59 PM

#2563

TheDean1

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 35,900

Quote:

Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan

Remember when u hardseerhunted me in the thread but still didn't kill me?

OWNED

have you written forsy a thank you note for that yet?

04-06-2012 , 12:59 PM

#2564

CalledDownLight

Toonces the Posting Bot

Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 88,413

Quote:

Originally Posted by exec771

Why are you rehashing the same argument?

People dont wanna play it because it's lame. I like playing WW because I like the idea of getting better at reading someone across several games, and retaining that info and using my meta against them later on. Gimmicks reduce alot of the fun for me so I dont do it.

If everyone used gimmicks, then every game would become a gimmick game and that **** would get old really quick.

plenty of people feel the opposite though. Some people hate soccer and love golf, some hate golf and love soccer. Both of those things are just personal preference and its not like one stance is actually superior, but people will have you believe that one is because it validates their preference.

Quote:

Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan

People who are mean to people don't get invited to invitationals

I dont get your point. Should I strive to be getting invited to invitationals or win? I like some of you guys and dislike others, but its really just me missing out on some workday entertainment if I miss a WW game.

04-06-2012 , 12:59 PM

#2565

metsandfinsfan

banned

Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 160,445

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirk Nowitzki

Also agree with CDL that I would modkill someone that clearly posted at :01 as an angleshoot

But how can you as mod discern that

04-06-2012 , 01:00 PM

#2566

CPHoya

Warden of Taipan Island

Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 73,265

Actually mets forgets that his asterisk typo created that whole situation, otherwise he's dead n1 every single time.

04-06-2012 , 01:00 PM

#2567

TimeLady

****ing planet

Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 58,486

Quote:

Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan

So you would do it

I wouldn't

You like loopholes

I want ironclad rules

honey I wouldn't even go there considering what's about to go down

04-06-2012 , 01:00 PM

#2568

HomerNoonJr

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 6,161

Quote:

Originally Posted by CPHoya

I guess I just haven't seen a lot of examples of what you are referring to, but then again I really don't play much compared to you and others. If you mean stop wagoning someone because they rage, well people (mistakenly) think raging is villagery so they back off (obviously they haven't played with Systolic). I don't think I've seen anyone not vote someone just because they felt bad that the player was upset for being called a wolf.

04-06-2012 , 01:00 PM

#2569

metsandfinsfan

banned

Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 160,445

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDean1

have you written forsy a thank you note for that yet?

Lol

HOYA AND DEAN GOT OWNED BY METS AND FORSY

04-06-2012 , 01:00 PM

#2570

Dirk Nowitzki

adept

Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 913

Quote:

Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan

But how can you as mod discern that

Just like any good mod should- by using their judgement

04-06-2012 , 01:00 PM

#2571

TheDean1

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 35,900

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimeLady

honey I wouldn't even go there considering what's about to go down

TL already ruling with an iron fist it seems

04-06-2012 , 01:01 PM

#2572

metsandfinsfan

banned

Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 160,445

Quote:

Originally Posted by CPHoya

Actually mets forgets that his asterisk typo created that whole situation, otherwise he's dead n1 every single time.

Lol typo

It was for post 69

Noob

04-06-2012 , 01:01 PM

#2573

metsandfinsfan

banned

Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 160,445

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimeLady

honey I wouldn't even go there considering what's about to go down

04-06-2012 , 01:02 PM

#2574

exec771

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 17,487

Quote:

Originally Posted by well named

Heh, noble thought, but I don't think a revised mod sticky is gonan stop those players from getting emo.

04-06-2012 , 01:02 PM

#2575

Krayz

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 47,277

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDean1

Quote:

Originally Posted by CPHoya

What I'm getting at is "mean" in POG has taken on a definition that is objectively counter to the point of Werewolf, and it's obviously a problem.

yes that's obvious.

but what are you proposing to change it?

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