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Dexter All-Vig Mishmash Game Thread 09/09 Dexter All-Vig Mishmash Game Thread 09/09

09-10-2014 , 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by LuckyLloyd
Looking at voting patterns is the best I can do - it isn't perfect but I don't have the time to read all of yesterday's posts. I'd love to think I binked three wolves, statistically that's unlikely to be true. Of course everyone's posting is different.

If people flip like that your votes would of course look good - and doing this sort of analysis every night would provide a reference to go back and confirm same.

I think it's good it's all in one post anyway at least, hopefully it helps some.
i recognize that my vote is going to look terrible if/when cross flips wolf, but whatever

with the lack of action last night, wolfme is a lot more willing to just bus the **** out of a bro that isn't going to get lynched no matter what i do for dat credit, then pump a shot into a villager overnight and claim i overlapped on whichever shots that ended up killing wolves

whoever posted (and i posted something about this yesterday) about how the compressed game structure impacts the way the game would be played is correct, though. perhaps the wolves were less inclined to try to influence the lynch b/c d1 lynches aren't super successful usually anyway, and giving a bunch of information regarding vote movement can only hurt them

but what do i know

i just know that shooting me is preferable to gad lawyering me into going #fullmonte and getting banned
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09-10-2014 , 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ihcjay
Monte you don't think rascal could be claiming credit for a dead villas kill

IIRC the only person to vote for kcaw at any time was effen
ding ding ding
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09-10-2014 , 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by ihcjay
Monte you don't think rascal could be claiming credit for a dead villas kill

IIRC the only person to vote for kcaw at any time was effen
absolutely he could be, and if more than one person claimed to have shot him, then we have to put him back to the forefront of the table

i just think that the four people i've mentioned so far today are better shots because of the reasons i stated, after that i don't have much

as gad says, i doubt it's going to matter because we lose lots unless there are a lot of two life villagers and/or not a lot of wolf angeling power left

and even then we probably lose
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09-10-2014 , 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by TheNothing
ding ding ding
Not to mention the reasoning behind his kcaw shot was total aids
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09-10-2014 , 12:58 PM
if rascal's a wolf, don't you think there's some attempt to prevent him from being within a killer wagon voteflip of dying? seems like there was some extreme apathy at EOD yesterday, and if rascal is a wolf and (let's say) cross is also a wolf, i find it difficult to believe that things would be that quiet

how long do you think it will take LKJ to quote this post in DVC and call it ******ed? i give it 12 minutes
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09-10-2014 , 01:00 PM
Votes from post 1721 to post 2030
Night in 8:00:53

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VotesLynchVoters
2 Crossnerd ihcjay (56), Montecore (44)
1 younguns87 Kaze13 (47)
1 lilrascal TheNothing (42)
1 biggerboat TehVader (11)
1 Montecore LuckyLloyd (6)
11 not voting zdye724 (12), younguns87 (8), Supine (0), Selsted (1), Monkey Banana (0), lilrascal (18), KruZe (0), Gadarene (44), Crossnerd (0), Chris Pine (12), biggerboat (0)
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09-10-2014 , 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Montecore
absolutely he could be, and if more than one person claimed to have shot him, then we have to put him back to the forefront of the table

i just think that the four people i've mentioned so far today are better shots because of the reasons i stated, after that i don't have much

as gad says, i doubt it's going to matter because we lose lots unless there are a lot of two life villagers and/or not a lot of wolf angeling power left

and even then we probably lose
Yeah I guess it'd be pretty ballsy to come out claiming that shot not knowing if others would try to or not

Still the matter of TN shooting him and him not dying is there though
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09-10-2014 , 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Montecore
zdye, expand on your wolf read of me

it seems to be lacking in substance and heavily dripping with wanting, so maybe you're actually a villager

i liked your post walking back your supposed lock clarity for the vmf shot, btw, it was something i considered while treadmilling
All I remember you doing yesterday is calling me a lock wolf and getting into it with gad

Today, all I've seen is you push biggerboat and say you want to die

Sketchy imo
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09-10-2014 , 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ihcjay
Yeah I guess it'd be pretty ballsy to come out claiming that shot not knowing if others would try to or not

Still the matter of TN shooting him and him not dying is there though
in this format, though, it doesn't matter if there's a counterclaim

multiple people shooting the same player dead still results in a dead player

look at the two people who have claimed to shoot Duck; it's perfectly plausible

the fact that TheNothing claims to have shot at lilrascal and lilrascal didn't die is much more indicative of lilrascal being a wolf (that and all of this posts)

there was ~zero risk in lilrascal claiming to have shot kcaw; zero downside for the wolves if he's a wolf
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09-10-2014 , 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by zdye724
All I remember you doing yesterday is calling me a lock wolf and getting into it with gad

Today, all I've seen is you push biggerboat and say you want to die

Sketchy imo
you need to expand your gaze if that's all you've seen of me

it's more of a you problem
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09-10-2014 , 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Montecore
if rascal's a wolf, don't you think there's some attempt to prevent him from being within a killer wagon voteflip of dying? seems like there was some extreme apathy at EOD yesterday, and if rascal is a wolf and (let's say) cross is also a wolf, i find it difficult to believe that things would be that quiet

how long do you think it will take LKJ to quote this post in DVC and call it ******ed? i give it 12 minutes
Maybe but wolves may have figured he'd be shot and didn't want to stick their necks out for him
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09-10-2014 , 01:05 PM
maybe we have a very apathetic wolf team

maybe there's some sort of mechanic that would have changed the way the vote went down

maybe they don't care if they lose ONE wolf bc they know they are gonna kill like 8 villagers at night

*shrug*
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09-10-2014 , 01:05 PM
like, let's say lilrascal is a wolf

this morning he comes in and sees that wolf kcaw was killed

if he claims to have shot kcaw, one of two things will happen

1) someone else will also claim to have shot kcaw -- in a game where all villagers are vigs, this doesn't make lilrascal's claim implausible

2) nobody else claims to have shot kcaw because the person who shot kcaw is one of the ~9 dead villagers; this doesn't make lilrascal's claim implausible either

did lilrascal explain why he shot kcaw, btw? seems like a pretty hero-y shot for someone who said he didn't really read the thread
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09-10-2014 , 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Gadarene
in this format, though, it doesn't matter if there's a counterclaim

multiple people shooting the same player dead still results in a dead player

look at the two people who have claimed to shoot Duck; it's perfectly plausible

the fact that TheNothing claims to have shot at lilrascal and lilrascal didn't die is much more indicative of lilrascal being a wolf (that and all of this posts)

there was ~zero risk in lilrascal claiming to have shot kcaw; zero downside for the wolves if he's a wolf
there's also zero real downside to harddefending your wolfbros in a format like this, because all it takes is (maybe) one villager thinking you're wolfy and you're going to get popped at night regardless

could be another reason why there was essentially no activity around the lynch last night
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09-10-2014 , 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Gadarene
in this format, though, it doesn't matter if there's a counterclaim

multiple people shooting the same player dead still results in a dead player

look at the two people who have claimed to shoot Duck; it's perfectly plausible

the fact that TheNothing claims to have shot at lilrascal and lilrascal didn't die is much more indicative of lilrascal being a wolf (that and all of this posts)

there was ~zero risk in lilrascal claiming to have shot kcaw; zero downside for the wolves if he's a wolf
true enough
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09-10-2014 , 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Montecore
you need to expand your gaze if that's all you've seen of me

it's more of a you problem
Too be fair, your posting is pretty terrible so it's more of a you problem
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09-10-2014 , 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Gadarene

the fact that TheNothing claims to have shot at lilrascal and lilrascal didn't die is much more indicative of lilrascal being a wolf (that and all of this posts)
inorite

but i could still BE a wolf
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09-10-2014 , 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Gadarene
like, let's say lilrascal is a wolf

this morning he comes in and sees that wolf kcaw was killed

if he claims to have shot kcaw, one of two things will happen

1) someone else will also claim to have shot kcaw -- in a game where all villagers are vigs, this doesn't make lilrascal's claim implausible

2) nobody else claims to have shot kcaw because the person who shot kcaw is one of the ~9 dead villagers; this doesn't make lilrascal's claim implausible either

did lilrascal explain why he shot kcaw, btw? seems like a pretty hero-y shot for someone who said he didn't really read the thread
iirc he said it had something to do with how kcaw glommed onto your wolfread of rascal

i noted it and thought it sounded decent-ish from rascal's presumably narrow reading of the thread and moved on, but it might be worth it to quote it so it's seen by a wider audience
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09-10-2014 , 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by zdye724
Too be fair, your posting is pretty terrible so it's more of a you problem
if it actually was terrible, this is a pot/kettle situation

but very few people think i'm being wolfy, so we're circling back around to the z strain of aids again, i'm afraid

i can't stress this enough, though: if you don't believe me, just dayvig me. i'm right here, angus exposed for peppering
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09-10-2014 , 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Gadarene
like, let's say lilrascal is a wolf

this morning he comes in and sees that wolf kcaw was killed

if he claims to have shot kcaw, one of two things will happen

1) someone else will also claim to have shot kcaw -- in a game where all villagers are vigs, this doesn't make lilrascal's claim implausible

2) nobody else claims to have shot kcaw because the person who shot kcaw is one of the ~9 dead villagers; this doesn't make lilrascal's claim implausible either

did lilrascal explain why he shot kcaw, btw? seems like a pretty hero-y shot for someone who said he didn't really read the thread
He said because kcaw voted him for no reason and because you're his top vilalger

or something
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09-10-2014 , 01:09 PM
I could see the wolves angeling lilrascal and sending him out with explicit instructions to claim a wolf kill

But if he's a wolf, and the wolves were so unconcerned about him dying, there would have to have been bussing for credit involved
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09-10-2014 , 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Montecore
iirc he said it had something to do with how kcaw glommed onto your wolfread of rascal

i noted it and thought it sounded decent-ish from rascal's presumably narrow reading of the thread and moved on, but it might be worth it to quote it so it's seen by a wider audience
oh, right; i remember that

yeah, that doesn't make any sense

(i do agree that kcaw's last-minute switch to lilrascal slightly reduces the likelihood of lilrascal being a wolf)
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09-10-2014 , 01:10 PM
This is lilrascal this morning:

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Originally Posted by TheNothing
i shot rascal & he didn't die so boo
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Originally Posted by lilrascal
I have a few minutes this morning before going to work.

I shot kcaw last night.
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Originally Posted by TheNothing
i don't believe rascal

but i also thought killer was a wolf

so
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Originally Posted by lilrascal
Unfortunately, my pop-in at lunch looked wolfy to many of you. Many of you know that I come off wolfy on D1, I still need to work at that.

I expected to be back for EOD, but I had to work late and then take the wife out to dinner and got home just after EOD.
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Originally Posted by lilrascal
I understand that you don't believe me and that's mainly my fault because I was afk.
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Originally Posted by lilrascal
After reading a good part of yesterday, I think Gad's pushing of me and not coming off that is clearing for him.

I'm villa and if he was a wolf, there's no way he'd come at my that hard, because when I flipped villa it would look very bad for him since he had no wiggle run.

As villa Gad, he can make that push and stick with it and blame it on my pop-in posts.
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Originally Posted by lilrascal
I definitely should be back for EOD since I worked late yesterday and took the wife to dinner last night.

I want to lay out some of my thoughts before heading into work.

I voted kcaw because he bought into the gad push of me near EOD without any rationale. That was any easy vote for a wolf to make and not get called on it except by me since I know I'm villa.
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Originally Posted by Kaze13
like i know you meant to say you shot kcaw

but i have to point out you didnt vote anyone

because if i dont its going to bug me
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Originally Posted by lilrascal
Yes, I meant to say I shot kcaw not voted him (which I said I shot him in an earlier post, so my mistake).

I didn't vote yesterday because I didn't make it back for EOD like I fully expected to.
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Originally Posted by lilrascal
When I did pop-in at lunch yesterday it was to try and interact with other players to try and get some reads.

Kaze is the only one that interacted with me by giving me a synopsis of what had been going on so far, I guess that made my posts seem wolfy.

I try to interact with others to get a feel for tone, but no one wanted to interact until after I left and I almost got mislynched for it.
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Originally Posted by lilrascal
I guess, I should reiterate my slank cover for everyone. I just posted in the sign-up thread that my usual slank cover applies.

I work about 10 hour days but I'm almost always around for EOD unless something comes up like yesterday. I try to get in a few minutes in the thread the morning before heading into work.
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Originally Posted by lilrascal
This morning is turning into a repeat of yesterday for me at this point kaze is the only one that will interact with me even though others are in the thread and have me as wolfy.

I have to go to work now. I should be here for EOD.
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Originally Posted by lilrascal
One more thing before I leave. I'll white knight gad for yesterday (if anyone cares).

Because there's no way he pushes me that had as a wolf. So, in my mind, gad is the only clear villa that I can read atm.
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Originally Posted by Kaze13
see this confuses me

we all just watched gad wolf in the simpsons mash

and he aggresively defended wolves and im assuming he also pushed for some mislynches.

gad can be that vocal as a wolf, even when hes pushing villagers.
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Originally Posted by lilrascal
I'll stay a couple more minutes and answer this.

I haven't played that many mishmashes and didn't play simpsons, so I don't know what he did there.

I just don't understand how a wolf could push that hard at a villa all day without giving himself any wiggle room, since he never moved off me that I saw. A wolf would at least give himself an out and push someone else.

As a villa, I can see someone doing this.

I may be wrong, but I know I'm villa and a wolf only pushing one villa all day on D1 based on the few posts I had would look bad for him.
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Originally Posted by TheNothing
so rascal, on the same hand, would you lock clear me?

because i did pretty much exactly what gad did
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Originally Posted by lilrascal
Ok, really out to work now. See everyone at EOD where I hope I'm not being mislynched like almost happened last night.
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Originally Posted by lilrascal
No, you pushed some others in addition to me, while gad only pushed me, giving you some wiggle room it you're a wolf. I don't have a read either way on you atm.
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Originally Posted by lilrascal
Off to work now. Not looking back to see other posts, I'm already late for work.

We can talk more this evening.
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09-10-2014 , 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by TheNothing
inorite

but i could still BE a wolf
do you agree that if lilrascal flips villa with one life, then it is a reasonable conclusion that you are lying about having shot him last night?
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09-10-2014 , 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by lilrascal
I definitely should be back for EOD since I worked late yesterday and took the wife to dinner last night.

I want to lay out some of my thoughts before heading into work.

I voted kcaw because he bought into the gad push of me near EOD without any rationale. That was any easy vote for a wolf to make and not get called on it except by me since I know I'm villa.
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