Yeah at the end I knew globe was a wolf

His of course ill vote gder post was so wolfy

Very well played wolves

Frustrating game

Ty Homer

Im glad its over

Dean

My cfd attempts were correct no?

sorry to my wolves for proloning this a week, me not posting last week wasnt intentional i just got drunk. the other weeks i didnt post it was something like, the village doesnt seem to care if i post or not theyll just hang themselves


and 999 word posts are IMO super -ev for the village

ok im awake now.

first of all: again homer: thanks for running this. i think it's an interesting twist and could be played again, but probably a bit differently.



gg wolves. globe! i thougth it was you/ibav/gder/?? but i still would've turbolynched dean if i was still alive week six.

WEEK SIX!

it was fun, and i don't mind the exhaustion so much. i was getting *really* frustrated w/ low participation. it became a distraction.

which is interesting, bc low participators, like you gder, feel frustrated by HIGH VOLUME participators (like me/globe/dean/sanga/etc) and say that it's -ev for the village?

i think that's backwards.

it's proably -ev for a *type* of villager, but that's the problem: that *type* of villager probably shouldn't be signing up for this game.

it's nearly impossible to village as is; it makes it so much more impossible when ppl fluff, don't post, don't explain their thoughts, don't work cooperatively with other ppl, and/or let the game devolve into a series of insults and defensiveness.

sorry to bob for driving your lynch. that's just another great WTF moment in this game. you got soo sooo villagery towards the end of the week, but what can the village do? CFD on thrusday? there's this terrible need to commit, and for wagon resolution. (and the flipside was always "well everyone is just about equal parts wolfy, so why not him?" - i mean, i usually have problems clearing ppl in normal games but this game was just impossible. you were all possible wolves. hai globe)

sorry to luckay for never being able to trust you! ahaaaaaaaaaa. that final week you played, i was so fixated on you not posting one day (tuesday imo?) and then kinda mailing it in the next day, when the wagons at that time were 2/2/2/2 and two of them were your top wolves. i couldn't reconcile it (despite i think ibav saying that that's what you do as a villa). sigh.

zzzzzzzzzzzzz

yeah, idk how you would make the small adjustments, but i would consider playing this again if it was worked on a bit.

gg to all.

very interesting.

mew mew mew

Dam globe you're sick
Gg all and thnx homer
I liked the format, I think perhaps even less words might make it better? And maybe keep it to a 13er. Of course I didn't have to go thru a month of failure
Dam I need to stop making conditional reads, I was hot for a while doing it but failing recently
I reallllly thought Aao was a wolf and made a bunch of reads based on that

Ya I would've lynched bob too probly

thanks homer! i know this was a ton of work to mod. you did a great job, and even when you were sick!

gg wolves

never trusting globe again

I thought your logic and reasoning was good for the most part on the last day or two when you were suspecting esse. I think if I were in your shoes I may have voted for Hoya just because he had essentially given up if he were a villager. 1) I think it's more likely Hoya will stop caring in that spot as a wolf than a villager. 2) If he's a villager and doesn't try, he'll probably cost us the game anyway.

I tried on week d1p3/d1p4! Didn't catch on at all really.

At one point I thought of putting everyone's posts into their own google documents so I could have all of people's posts in the same place. So like, TheDean1 gets his own google doc with every post he's made, etc...

Would it have been acceptable to share those google docs with the thread if I had wound up making them? I probably would have asked Homer first, but around the time I had that idea I realized I only had a couple more days to live so I didn't do it.

posting 999 words to post 999 words is super -ev. its like in school when you get a 1k word essay, a lot of times you have 1.5k words to say and others you have 500. When this happens you either cut stuff you needed and ruin the entirety of your thought process for everyone else, or you post 499 words of fluff.

Yeah I hear you. I tried to 180 on akson/Dean overnight too and really sell that I was seer. I took akson from like, one of the most likely woofs, to Dean top of my villager list after like two posts. Tried to look like a tasty nommable seer. But you guys are right about animalem.

At one point Jim asked me ib Skype who I thought the seer was, and I was like hmmmm I dunno Ibavly? Jim asked cause he was pretty certain it was animalem.

I would control-f parentheses G to find your posts, for example. Although I think Homer used some special parentheses, so I had to go to one of the intros to your posts, copy that, then find all instances of it on the page to read your posts.

What do you think about having the game thread in a series of google docs? You can post the reveals and vote counts in the game thread on 2p2.

I think the first paragraph is a reason why the second paragraph is not true. If the wolves get lazy like they sometimes did, villagers can clear themselves in part by effort.

I made long posts for a few reasons

1) Clear myself by effort

2) Share as many thoughts, reads, and ideas as possible

3) Take full advantage of my opportunity to participate, which I figured would be important in an ultra restricted game.

I never tried to make posts long just for the sake of making them long, however. Maybe I did just a little bit on my intro post, I just figured if I have 1000 words I might as well use them for something so I just went through every thought I had about the game. After my intro post, though, it quickly became easy to hit 1000 words.

That may be the case but it seemed that people felt like posting 999 words even if 1/4 of them were fluffy or just obscure ideas that shouldnt have been included.

Completely agree with this. This game requires a certain kind of player for it to work.

Alice, you were super awesome. You had lots of great thoughts and contributions, and lots of lolworthy moments. You cleared yourself extremely well.

Oh and also, I'm happy I finally got to see your villager game Dean! I was pretty convinced you were a wolf for the first half of d3, but you defended yourself well and changed my mind for the most part (unfortunately we had v/v/v wagons that day ). I also realized that you were going to be a valuable villager given your effort and experience, and mislynching you would be very expensive.

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Here's a little secret for those of you that don't know:

I think I posted more 900+ word posts than anyone (except possibly Alice?) but I tried to include very little fluff. I wanted to give the other villagers the opportunity to read me as a villager and wanted to share all my reads and opinions on other players.

ahahahah sanga that's so funny!

i remember when i read animal's past games and saw that she played both w/ you. and you knew that she was a sick wolf in her first game. so i used that against you in this game. like WHY aren't you more suspicious of this noooob animal who you know she kills as wolf?

i guess bc you have a helluva lot more meta :P

also i love love love the "wife peeks husband n0" <-- that's so cool.


@gder: i heard you mention that before too. i really really really do not think ppl were posting 999 words just to post 999 words.

for me at least, when i would include "999 bitches!" at the end of my post, it was because it took me thirty minutes to EDIT IT DOWN TO 999, not because i was sitting there going hmm, what else can i add to get this word count up a bit more????

considering i walked into a game and everyone was on my detective, i am proud of how i played

mets, i was fine backing off you after the original oddity of your first post.

i had a hard time with the whole "luckay said this about me" thing, when he didn't. i don't think you ever said "oh i misread that; luckay never voted me" but instead, appeared to hold that belief for a while - - so i think a few of us (me/esse/dean at least) were like "what is going on w/ mets this game?????"

maybe it felt a little like obfuscation, gder style.


speaking of ppl admitting when they're wrong...my FAVORITE PART of this game was bob calling out globe.

so ****ing funny

Hehehe ty. She said she peeked me because she recognized so few other names and went with someone she knew. I didn't think she was seer cause I thought she just had a genuine read on me and then was sponging my defense of filthy.

Yes, Animalem did own the village in her first turbo, she had decent tone and appeared at least somewhat involved in wolf hunting. It was enough for everyone to just dismiss the chance she was a wolf given she was a noob. However, in her second turbo she was a villager and way more involved, a noticeable difference. I thought she was very involved in this game which is why I had a strong villager lean for her.

Oh and yeah, my "1000thWord" at the end of posts etc were there mainly because I was just satisfied with getting everything into 1000 words, being done with my post, and putting all my thoughts down on paper. Several times I had to go through the thread and delete ~30 instances of the/a/it etc... and find ways to reduce word count without reducing content.

It seriously felt like I was in high school or college writing essays sometimes, especially when I was procrastinating until the last minute, but it was all fun so I didn't mind. Homer can probably attest to how many times he got posts from me at 9:59 or 10:00 PM (is that around the time you guys would submit your posts, btw?).

Earlier in the game I was using an online word counter that counted words differently than MS Word, so what I thought was 1000 words was really like 1041 according to Homer. So I'd have to go back and scan my post for spots where I could cut out a word or two.

But it was all really fun. I wish we had won but I'm satisfied with my effort and the village's effort given the restrictions this game posed on us.

Lol yes that was hilarious. The funniest thing all thread imo was your roadmap. Lol @ "too much diablo dios mio!" What's mew mew mew mean btw?

Second funniest was this line by Dean, I literally lolled for several minutes:

I recall Silman saying a number of funny things this game, but not remembering specifics right now. And Luckay's martyr post/rant was pretty funny too.

Some of my early posts were from phone app so it was really hard to see who was who


Next times

Separate posts for each post and start and end post with avatar

Aao wasn't wolfy for him

And luckay did clear himself

And globe was wolfy by the end of course cause wolfing for 6 weeks is hard

and mets you're so damn perfect

Not even close to perfect

Why you mad bro



Homer thanks for Modding

i dont think this is really fair.

there were points in this game where, in my opinion, you were excessively antagonistic. it may benefit regular ww games, but it was very counterproductive in this format.

overt aggression, antagonism, tunnelled defensiveness/ego-statements, and repeated lines like:

he's so stupid. she must be the dumbest player ever. i can't believe someone is this bad. etc etc etc

they don't have a place in this format. and likely in any format.

so it's a little unfair for you to play antogonistic, and then post game say "why you mad?"

/.02

I agree w/ Alice's post above fwiw.