I'm pretty comfortable with Mike/Reno wagons.

I don't like that Mike wouldn't vote for WN yesterday and vice versa and I don't like Reno pulling a Vader and not posting at all.

Mike

so in about an hour I'll be afk until after EOD. I am fine with m1ke/reno wagons for now

sorry i've been busy on POG. cliff notes or should i read to catch up?

On quick read of today's activity, having a "major" event is good to get people talking. The bad part is wolves can blend in when it comes to that sort of thing, because they don't have to fake any reads on actual people.

We've had far too many comments about special roles that only serve to help thew wolves figure out who ISN'T a special role. Please stop. That said, depending on what happens with tonight's lynch/SK/wolf double kill (seriously?), some kind of reveal for tomorrow should be considered.

As it is, we've had three FoC claims - all three from players who aren't being active about saying who they think is village and who is wolf.

Aard - claims after one vote. MIA since
M1ke - makes uninspired claim late yesterday when asked
Nich - If not for his semi-claim, which I have to assume is a full one, I would want him lynched today for complete lack of posting.
Atak - dead Foc

So, tomorrow might be a good day for all FoC's to claim ... thereby reducing the seer hunt by two (if the above three claims are legit) but taking the FoC claim from the wolves hands.

Obviously if we end up with more than 6 FoCs in total, fun ensues.

Reno/M1Ke wagons are just fine and ZeTurd's case against Reno - along with Reno's LACK OF A GADDAM VOTE yesterday - makes him a fine choice.

Somehow FCBL has skated along this game without any pressure whatsoever when he's a low volume/low-content poster as well. I understand that's his style as a villager as well, but it doesn't help the village at all if he is a villager. FCBL also left a dangling vote on Caldarooni yesterday that was about as worthwhile as a no-vote.

Just re-read Reno and FCBL and I'm much more comfortable with FCBL - I also forgot that he voted JJP on D1.

Reno expiration

Dear claimed FoCs: Please contribute.

I know M1ke said he's out until eod .. but Aard? Nich?

thats the sum total of your response (?)

My playing style actually has very little to do with levels and more to do with decoding peoples tone.

nutjob:

we lost 2 FoC's d1/n1 so if those three claims are legit FoC claims there is one remaining FoC not two.

Whoever that is should most definitely stfu until tomorrow - lets not make it easier for the wolves to hit Chuck/Sarah/Bryce with their TWO NK's tonight than we have already....

Nichs claim is easily resolved tomorrow - we just need to engineer wagons such that the double voters will have made a difference.

People sniping to upset that balance late in the day are going to look super wolfy - and the wolves are somewhat thin on the ground so..

I am willing to engineer double wagons, but I am NOT willing to do so if one of the wagons is herbie.

m1ke for now

I'm trying to figure out whether reno going down without protestations is a good sign or a bad sign. I actually think it's a good sign.

reno

A counter-wagon would be good, but not really much use in an alternative wagon just for the sake of having an extra wagon if most of us are pretty set on lynching reno.

I wouldn't mind testing nich's claim though, and that'd requrie some finetuning of an opposing wagon. It'd be kind of funny to put nich at 1 vote over reno and sun/z on reno. Not really too worried about last minute wolf sniping either (if reno is indeed a wolf) since that's pretty much a death warrant.

m1ke works too I guess, but putting nich up there, besides being funny, gives us a wolf if he's lying, so pretty neat like that. I really don't think he's lying though, but it doesn't really hurt either I think.

Ah, I forgot Voya ... trying to block that out, since otherwise I'd be perfecto so far. I noticed you nearly broke your arm patting yourself on the back earlier... I'd like you to go back and read my first post of the game - especially the last third of it.

Then combine that with my Vader pwn and then come back and tell me how awesome I am.

not voting m1ke 100% guaranteed

He could easily be full of crap, but you realize he has claimed FoC?

I know I've gone completely silent as a pegged wolf before. Thought I was peeked and the town piled on and I just shut up so as not to give anything away.

I don't want a runaway .. but if there is one I won't be trying to stop it.

I am not giving much weight to FoC claims. What happens if we DO have 7 FoCs tomorrow? We lynch each of them in rotation, mowing through villagers in order to find the ones that are wolves?

FoC is an easy claim for an evil. It's not going to be counterclaimed and it comes with a ready-made explanation for why you didn't die. If you're a FoC and you want a lynch-pass from me, you'd better hope you're rand()ed a power so that you can point to something.

Then real fun ensues. But we would have two guaranteed wolves of those 7 ... that would be pretty cool.

Errr . make that three since two are already dead.

The problem is, if someone was converted last night, I don't think we HAVE 4 mislynches left.

lol - awesome enough for you to be top of my villager column.

FWIW I have not played any WW at all since our sweep game at "the other place" however long ago that was - I am more pleased that I still remember how to play than anything else

Vote who you want .. I don't even know the math for the end and don't feel like trying to figure it out. I do know that I tend to honor claims until the time to figure out who's lying and who's not comes.

There could be four wolves right now. There are two dead FoCs and four alive ones. So, if wolves want to claim FoC, they're helping us in the long run. If all three (or four) of them claimed, the game would be reduced to those players and all others being confirmed clear ... and peekage might help on up to three of them.

that works for me - pretty much the only way we can test Nich's claim is to do something like that *today*

Anyone out there like Reno/FCBL wagons??

I think I am swayed into the "m1ke is actually villager" camp presently.

I'm back

I'm generically against engineering wagons but I do think Nich should have to tell us exactly when he received his power because someone could counter that claim. Assuming nobody counters it I think we can safely assume that his claim is legit. Based on his reaction to my supposition about the FoC powers possibly preventing a nightkill I would assume he received the power on n1 instead of n2, but I'll wait for him to say for sure.

I would rather see those wagons than a Reno/M1ke wagon right now

While FoC is a good thing for wolves to claim I'm just not interested in lynching any claimed FoC's until we get too many of them

I like the idea of testing nich. We can lynch Reno,Fcbl id rather wait on. Ppl that are against lynching m1ke keep in mind you'll probly have to convince casey too