Im not exactly sure but that post referred to you saying it didn't jive with your logic center, a feeling that I had as well. Tbh I also had that feeling when we lynched telc for using !!s but Im just not sold on reads like these, shroops and whatnot.

well, if you think the first soft-claim (in his opening post) is the wolfiest thing about him, then I strongly disagree

if you think his reference to it now is wolfy because (as you say) he's using it like a crutch, then I only mildly disagree (oh, you strenuously object!), because in the event that he is a villager who does have a power role then i expect him to refer to it now in exactly that way

it's super not ideal but it is what it is

My Cornish only really stretches to "To the devil with the English" tbhwy

according to the stats, I'm an asset.

If viggo doesn't post more, I'll need someone to have a look at him.

tchaz here's why:

is compelled by yg's case on filthy

again talking about filthy case

talked about someone else near here, maybe LKJ, but irrelevant

filthy posts at :40

hoya IMMEDIATELY POSTS AFTER at :41, likely xpost

then DOES NOT PUST AGAIN UNTIL :50, which is about someone else:

it's a #TIMING TELL:

-filthy enters thread, hoya sees immediately
-any reasonable villager who was actually compelled by the filthy case, part of which was that he hadn't posted since this morning, would respond accordingly (to filthy)
-does not post for 9 minutes
-posts about jay, tags on something about filthy, again soft calling him wolfy but indirectly and almost as an afterthought

would not be surprised if the underlined was actually a word in Welsh

hello again POG community members

bad conditional read though, since if filthy is a villager then who cares

Gad obv right and LKJ obv wrong about Filthy

Hi!

I have the time it takes to brush my teeth - why am I wrong about you?

Maybe I will tomorrow, but I don't have the time right now. So you could either go and run or give me the hyper-short answer .. or you could just fob me off with nothingness. Guess which is the least helpful all around?

CT I need you to step up . or at least post something valuable.

jay noticeably srs bsns in the early pages, that's weird

monte an obvious villager

wang, carl probs villagers too

It's the combination of the two, the fact that his entire case on why not to lynch him is that he has a PR and nothing actually positive about his posts. It's a feel thing as much as anything, his two posts about it feel like a throwback to Noah as a wolf clinging to something mechanical so that he can attain some level of comfort in the thread. Same thing for a recent game by Kruze where he fake claimed something in his very first post and then was eventually killed overnight on like n3 and flipped wolf.

I think it's a real tool that some players who absolutely hate wolfing use.

i sadly agree. i often get a lot of heat as a villager, usually more than as a wolf fwiw.

look, i am not a great game solver. and i almost never work hard. but i do show up. and i do fight my mislynches. and i have a power. it will hurt the village, especially if the village tries to kill me

my winning personality

I'll actually vote Namath.

Partly based on #1101 and partly on him being so rubbish in his reads on me.

what does this mean?

can't decide whether the Filthy balls is just Hoyaids making a lawyery mountain out of a molehill or the kind of small **** he likes to push villagers for when he's wolfing

who else is a wolf chez Hoya?

mostly true although i will note that i think as a wolf i would have put some token wolves on my (no doubt horrible) list


i like where your head is at though

Glad you didn't say your stunning look...

I'm off

no

You have a power that will hurt the village?

The good news is that there isn't a single player in the game who expects you to dominate and wreck the wolf team, but just some thoughts about some players would be great. I saw the BATM posts.

Xkf let's have a chat. I'm going to be really transparent and open in this chat and just explain how I feel about your game and playing with you, and hopefully through this I can just get a read and move on.

I used to think you were a fairly reliable read and that's more-or-less how I lynched you in that vanilla like 6 months ago or whatever. I felt good about that.

Since then you've improved markedly and I think you're (a) pretty good at making reads (though you do sort of go off the reservation at the drop of a hat and then maintain the detour for several days in mid-game, sometimes, but who hasn't, if we're being honest?) and (b) sort of difficult to read now.

I think this is largely because there is very low accountability for you re: your reads. Years ago I used to rant about this being a lame way to play, sandboxtheory.joke, darts.gif, etc., but I've come around on this as just a different approach to the game and I've adjusted. Still, that said, you do benefit from a comparatively low level of culpability for your own reads, as opposed to someone like me. For that reason, it's kinda hard to read you but really hard to lynch you. After all, what am I supposed to say to try to lynch you when the best argument in the world can be met with "yeah but it's Xkf, he's random"?

So that being the preface, here's the deal here. You seem to kind of have a fascination with pressuring villagers:
[list][*]Vagos is probably a villager, yet you came at him pretty hard about being "soft." This is an explained read, so not just a tone read. I don't agree with it [i]in real time[i/], or theoretically. He wasn't being soft when you said that. [*]You came at phialpha, who is going to be a villager almost always, and who was villager-y, in my opinion, prior to the totally possibly fake peek. I didn't agree with that read either.[*]You are now trying to build a contingency case on me in the event that filthy is a wolf. First of all, I have little-to-nothing to do with this. Second of all, I'm a villager anyway. This troubles me because, again, you've provided a reason that I outright reject.

So I think you're wolf-y. I don't know quite what to do about that at this point. I do know that over enough time I'll just decide to step up and get you lynched, and I know I *CAN* if I sell out to do it, but I'd rather just have a good reason to call you a villager and move on. Ball's in your court.