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04-20-2012 , 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by CalledDownLight
yea he was. he just decided to post fluff rather than content intentionally even after getting heat. it was weird and confusing but I was happy lynching him for it.
so was i !
till he flipped villa.
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04-20-2012 , 11:28 PM
I am still pissed at myself for leveling myself into making the wrong vote.

I came at vyk (Boris) hard and cleared him because of the way he reacted. I left him alone after that... until that CFD.

And the fact that I came in that morning with Larry (Seizure) as lock wolf and then let him off the hook.

Just disgusting on my part. Sorry village.
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04-20-2012 , 11:28 PM
can you imagine how pro-wolf this would have been with 24hr chat. im not sure i wanna think about it as a villager.
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04-20-2012 , 11:30 PM
I dont get what is so prowolf. can someone explain it? there is no reason that captains have to make their best players wolves and if they do then you should just lynch the players who appear to be better.
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04-20-2012 , 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by derwipok
I'm sry moocher, Jim and nothing, I wanted to but circumstances made it impossible for me to bring my A game.
You 3 were the exact wolf-team I wanted pre-draft, I thought you'd have great chemistry and you were all legit f3 wolves if it came down to it.

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Originally Posted by CalledDownLight
I like how we lynched the moocher's top 2 villa picks d1 and d2.


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Originally Posted by CalledDownLight
why would you make toga a seer?
He requested seer and he's old-school, I've read a lot of games from the archives and I think he's an excellent player, one of the steals of the draft in round 6 imo.

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Originally Posted by enty
appreciate it but i disagree.
i shouldve been able to convince goat or godkata.

i got so depressed during the course of the day i just gave up.
You were being set upon from all sides I really appreciated your efforts this game. Lets be clear here, the village just failed to lynch a wolf that hard-claimed wolf with the actual words 'i am a wolf' who then self-voted at ML. That's not your fault.
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04-20-2012 , 11:31 PM
im not sure why you guys keep saying its so pro wolf.
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04-20-2012 , 11:31 PM
Toga seer single handedly won the last draft game for Dean. He was an amazing pick there for Mooch.
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04-20-2012 , 11:31 PM
My reads were really good, I just never trust myself.
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04-20-2012 , 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by VarianceMinefield
im not sure why you guys keep saying its so pro wolf.
Obv because its gotta be as bad of a loss as it can be!
glfgkl;
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04-20-2012 , 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by CalledDownLight
I dont get what is so prowolf. can someone explain it? there is no reason that captains have to make their best players wolves and if they do then you should just lynch the players who appear to be better.
so you dont think people have meta tells? thats pretty amusing if so... and its easy to say just lynch the better players but some people come off differently as gimmicks than otherwise, and you have to figure out the captains are doing that mid game.
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04-20-2012 , 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by JimHalpert
Obv because its gotta be as bad of a loss as it can be!
glfgkl;
lollll

they dont kno what they r talkin about
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04-20-2012 , 11:33 PM
to be fair, I think wn still wins that f3 even if fcbl gets lynched. plus it brings postgame up from sunday night to now.
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04-20-2012 , 11:34 PM
You can take the halfway rule completely out of the equation, for one thing. *cough* well named *cough*
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04-20-2012 , 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Slighted
so you dont think people have meta tells? thats pretty amusing if so... and its easy to say just lynch the better players but some people come off differently as gimmicks than otherwise, and you have to figure out the captains are doing that mid game.
I think meta tells are used incorrectly as much as they are used correctly. for every player that goes utr as a wolf there is one who is utr as a villa by coincidence and mislynched. Everyone seems to say they model their wolf game after their villa game so I dont get what others are going to see differences in that you wouldnt catch yourself.
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04-20-2012 , 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Gadarene
Yeah, they're awesome. I felt I brought my A-game.
I knew you would and thank you for that
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04-20-2012 , 11:36 PM
CDL, you guys did well...no one is saying that you didn't deserve your win (I didn't follow it and I'm sure you did). But this format is definitely more prowolf than a standard vanilla 13r in the sense that everyone has basically "never" played with each other before.

It's like if you got together 13 good ww players from 13 different forums- the wolves would definitely have an advantage.
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04-20-2012 , 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by CalledDownLight
to be fair, I think wn still wins that f3 even if fcbl gets lynched. plus it brings postgame up from sunday night to now.
Probably, but he shouldn't have. Ellinika was being ridic villagery today, and shiitake was called out as a strong player and sneaky wolf since d1. People didn't look beyond his posts being well put together.
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04-20-2012 , 11:37 PM
Sup all. Hdve almost no net tonight, but trying to find a spot.

Think you to players, captains, and especially mods.
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04-20-2012 , 11:37 PM
It's also not an enormous advantage, but the wolves knew each others identities and were the only players to know so. So they can essentially play very similarly to how they do in a normal game.
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04-20-2012 , 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by CalledDownLight
to be fair, I think wn still wins that f3 even if fcbl gets lynched. plus it brings postgame up from sunday night to now.
yeah me too tbh
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04-20-2012 , 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by CalledDownLight
I think meta tells are used incorrectly as much as they are used correctly. for every player that goes utr as a wolf there is one who is utr as a villa by coincidence and mislynched. Everyone seems to say they model their wolf game after their villa game so I dont get what others are going to see differences in that you wouldnt catch yourself.
how many games did the wolves win of the last set? I mean this set they won 2/3. and it appeared to be pretty dominating. the game the village won, we lynched a 0 posting wolf one day because of real life issues. and we won a flip to lynch another.
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04-20-2012 , 11:39 PM
no way the two villages who lost would have if the game setup wasn't clearly prowolf, ldo

our village won because we were better, and the wolves were awful
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04-20-2012 , 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by atakdog
Sup all. Hdve almost no net tonight, but trying to find a spot.

Think you to players, captains, and especially mods.
Thanks for the awesome setup, atak.

And thanks for drafting me, Moocher. sorry I couldn't pull it out in the end
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04-20-2012 , 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by bsball8806
CDL, you guys did well...no one is saying that you didn't deserve your win (I didn't follow it and I'm sure you did). But this format is definitely more prowolf than a standard vanilla 13r in the sense that everyone has basically "never" played with each other before.

It's like if you got together 13 good ww players from 13 different forums- the wolves would definitely have an advantage.
I disagree. If you ran this game over and over again with different gimmicks it would be right at the long term winrates for 13ers imo. It is possible that the WAY the teams were drafted from this player pool made the wolves more likely to win, but any captain couldve loaded their villa team and achieved the opposite result.
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04-20-2012 , 11:40 PM
On a serious note.

Big big thanks to atak, VR, Hoya and Nofear for running/modding this. I had a huge amount of fun playing
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