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06-17-2009 , 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by ReneLuske
Id like Zt to post more though i think hes one of the best villas out there
Got a little busy today, but gonna post up a storm tomorrow if I'm alive.
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06-17-2009 , 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Ludovic Banhammer
Rene

What info do you really get from lynching Karak?
To wax philosophical for a moment. I think werewolf has shifted away from analyzing voting patterns nearly completely. The whole game is tone and tendencies. Every time I have seen someone push for a lynch for information, that information goes unused because few people are basing their votes on who did or didn't vote for the guy who got lynched.

This means exhorting us to vote for someone to gain information becomes a wolf tell, because it promises something that never comes to pass.
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06-17-2009 , 07:42 PM
BEG seems like an OK vote too. The post that dmk cited is actually pretty similar to what karak is saying.
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06-17-2009 , 07:42 PM
Caedus = villa

Goofy = wolf

(No, I'm not going to explain.)
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06-17-2009 , 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Ludovic Banhammer
Rene

What info do you really get from lynching Karak?
1. if i have been right all game long (although i kinda changed my mind a bit today)

2. if yesterdays wagon was v-v or w-v which we can extrapolate PURETTY hard from

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Originally Posted by bobman0330
I don't think I agree with clemency for karak. Has the houseguest that has allegedly kept him from being a supervillager even left yet? Waiting until tomorrow in the hope that a player who is apparently always considered wolfy to completely reinvent his game and clear himself is just a cop-out. It isn't going to happen.

If you don't think he's a wolf because of his posts today, I disagree, but fine. Giving him an extra day because he might have better posts tomorrow is silly. Tomorrow should have been today. Karak was already on notice from being nearly lynched yesterday.

I don't have anything against lynching sixfour, but I don't get a wolfy vibe from him either.
i strongly disagree with your disagreement, karak really deserved to live at least today, i hope he will come up with more tomorrow
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06-17-2009 , 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by dmk
just read up and i have to go

but wow, LYNCH BEG

you're telling me the one person you read up on AFTER EOD (not after the nightkill was announced, after the lynch...) was sun, the person that got NKed?

how convenient

LYNCH BEG

PLEASE READ THAT POST CAREFULLY. THEN LYNCH HER
You need to stop taking things I say out of context.......You should read the end of the day. Bitchi asked me why I switched from PVN to Karak....and I said, because I was banking on Sun being a villager. I you notice....up to that point....I was completely overwhelmed and asking for help....which nobody even paid a second glance at. I also asked if anyone had any questions for me that I could answer before nightfall.....again, I was ignored.

I also said that I was 500 posts behind. I respect Sun and trust his reads....he said Karak is a wolf. I also trust McAvoy and trust his reads....he said Karak is a wolf. So, I switched to Karak, and then, when day ended I had time to catch up on the posts that I missed. Instead of reading all 500 I concentrated on Sun. I had no idea he would be dead today.

DMK for only telling 1/2 the story.....that's what wolves do....exploit people weaknesses.
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06-17-2009 , 07:43 PM
The wolves are here.
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06-17-2009 , 07:44 PM
Caedus.
I am trying to reflect upon my thoughts on BEG from previous games where she was villa. Is the game dynamics and her net access sufficiently different to account for the change I have noticed in her play. If not, then I think it is highly likely she is a wolf.
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06-17-2009 , 07:44 PM
I'd much rather kill DMK then BEG, they can't really be w/w imo. 6-4 should die today though.
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06-17-2009 , 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by wdcbooks
To wax philosophical for a moment. I think werewolf has shifted away from analyzing voting patterns nearly completely. The whole game is tone and tendencies. Every time I have seen someone push for a lynch for information, that information goes unused because few people are basing their votes on who did or didn't vote for the guy who got lynched.

This means exhorting us to vote for someone to gain information becomes a wolf tell, because it promises something that never comes to pass.
You're probably right about the tendency, but it's kinda game dependent. I've never seen so much voting analysis as I did in some of the rookie games. Problem might be that the veterans are starting to get lazy.
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06-17-2009 , 07:44 PM
unvote
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06-17-2009 , 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by biggerboat
The wolves are here.
WHO ARE THEY WHO ARE THEY

also begs last post makes me wanna unvote
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06-17-2009 , 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ZeTurd
Oh, I remembered the 3rd thing about BEG. She claimed on D1 that she was going to focus her efforts this game by watching esse, elliot and me this game which 1) is a somewhat odd selection of candidates based on what I know of BEG's past experience with players in this game, and 2) not something she's followed through with at all. In Elliot's case that'd obviously be somewhat difficult though...

Another 1/2 story......when I said that.....notice I picked Elliot....he's a companion and not even posting.....the someone came in and heckled me that it was going to be too hard for me to focus on the ones that I picked because a couple of them only had 4 posts. I told that person to tell me who to focus on, and they never did.
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06-17-2009 , 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by BrownEyedGirl
You need to stop taking things I say out of context.......You should read the end of the day. Bitchi asked me why I switched from PVN to Karak....and I said, because I was banking on Sun being a villager. I you notice....up to that point....I was completely overwhelmed and asking for help....which nobody even paid a second glance at. I also asked if anyone had any questions for me that I could answer before nightfall.....again, I was ignored.

I also said that I was 500 posts behind. I respect Sun and trust his reads....he said Karak is a wolf. I also trust McAvoy and trust his reads....he said Karak is a wolf. So, I switched to Karak, and then, when day ended I had time to catch up on the posts that I missed. Instead of reading all 500 I concentrated on Sun. I had no idea he would be dead today.

DMK for only telling 1/2 the story.....that's what wolves do....exploit people weaknesses.
That is a good post.
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06-17-2009 , 07:45 PM
Aardvarksrus
biggerboat - sixfour
BitchiBee - sixfour
bobman0330 – karak567
BrownEyedGirl - DMK
Caedus - BEG
DiggertheDog
dmk - BEG
DustinG – karak567
essedarius - tao1
ewalsh420 - unvote
FCBLComish – karak567
goofyballer - wdcbooks
Karak567 - sixfour
LuckayLuck - zurvan
Ludovic Banhammer - BEG
McAvoy - wdcbooks
Nez477 –sixfour
norseman1066 – karak567
OnThinIce911 - well named
rchandra - sixfour
ReneLuske - BEG
Scrubbo - sixfour
sixfour –aardvarksrus
Sun Tzu
Swiitch
Tao1 - aardvarksrus
VayaConDios – karak567
wahoopride - wdcbooks
wdcbooks - bobman
well named - sixfour
Wiild – karak567
Xr8ed - sixfour
ZeTurd – BEG
Zurvan - digger


sixfour 8
karak 6
BEG 5
wdcbooks 3
aardvarksrus 2
bobman 1
digger 1
DMK 1
Tao 1
well named 1
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06-17-2009 , 07:45 PM
Just realised, I don't think I said, but I probably won't be able to post tomorrow, and if I do, it may well be drunk-posting.
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06-17-2009 , 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ZeTurd
Caedus = villa

Goofy = wolf

(No, I'm not going to explain.)
wat

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Originally Posted by biggerboat
The wolves are here.
They're everywhere, I just can't tell who they are.

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Originally Posted by BrownEyedGirl
DMK for only telling 1/2 the story.....that's what wolves do....exploit people weaknesses.
What are your thoughts on all our current wagons? Voting dmk just because he voted you doesn't help, he's not gonna get lynched today.
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06-17-2009 , 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ReneLuske
1. if i have been right all game long (although i kinda changed my mind a bit today)

2. if yesterdays wagon was v-v or w-v which we can extrapolate PURETTY hard from



i strongly disagree with your disagreement, karak really deserved to live at least today, i hope he will come up with more tomorrow
don't say he deserves to live today. (really it's nonsensical to talk about deserving at all.) He's either a wolf and we should lynch him now, or he's a villager and we shouldn't want to lynch him at all.
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06-17-2009 , 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ZeTurd
Makes some sense in that Sun was suspecting her relatively heavily, but then again, that might also help why Sun was NK'ed in the first place.
I think NOT.....he said that I was allowed to have an off day, and I shouldn't be lynched yet.

ZT and DMK ....two wolves working together to hammer on me....Fine with me.
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06-17-2009 , 07:48 PM
Hello everybody!

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Originally Posted by ZeTurd
Gah, cliffs anyone?

[follows]...
The wolfy part of Zeturd's post highlighted.
He's a hard working villager who isn't hard working this game.

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Originally Posted by dmk
just read up and i have to go

but wow, LYNCH BEG

you're telling me the one person you read up on AFTER EOD (not after the nightkill was announced, after the lynch...) was sun, the person that got NKed?

how convenient

LYNCH BEG

PLEASE READ THAT POST CAREFULLY. THEN LYNCH HER
This is a good point.
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06-17-2009 , 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by bobman0330
don't say he deserves to live today. (really it's nonsensical to talk about deserving at all.) He's either a wolf and we should lynch him now, or he's a villager and we shouldn't want to lynch him at all.
What I think is that the information gained from giving him an extra day will be more valuable than the information that might be gained from his lynch
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06-17-2009 , 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by BrownEyedGirl
I think NOT.....he said that I was allowed to have an off day, and I shouldn't be lynched yet.

ZT and DMK ....two wolves working together to hammer on me....Fine with me.
Fight harder if I like your posts I will vote to keep you in today.
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06-17-2009 , 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by BrownEyedGirl
I think NOT.....he said that I was allowed to have an off day, and I shouldn't be lynched yet.

ZT and DMK ....two wolves working together to hammer on me....Fine with me.
BrownEyedGirl,

this would NOT be fine with you if you were a villager.

[vote BrownEyedGirl]
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06-17-2009 , 07:49 PM
OK, karak is probably a villager. In one sense, he seems almost a little too deferential, I'd typically expect him to be a little bit more defensive and snappy, but I actually believe him, and his stated desire to be more actively helpful is probably a good move for him regardless of role.
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06-17-2009 , 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by bobman0330
don't say he deserves to live today. (really it's nonsensical to talk about deserving at all.) He's either a wolf and we should lynch him now, or he's a villager and we shouldn't want to lynch him at all.
the problem is i dont know he is a villager or not, first i was sure he was a wolf now im not so sure anymore, i have a feeling i might be either sure he is or sure he is not a wolf tomrrow, with the other wagons today i dont ahve that feeling

I mean i think i can read him well, if he doesnt post or posts wolfy tomrrow fine then well lynch him
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