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the part in red in that quote was describing the GF's best scenario, and therefore the reason that hulda is more powerful. i see how you guys are misreading it though

right. The value of a godfather is in getting peeked. Otherwise it's just a normal evil role. So if there is a mechanic that increases the chances of teh GF getting peeked, one would be tempted to use it.

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06-18-2009 , 11:37 AM

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What they said

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06-18-2009 , 11:38 AM

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but what does that have anything to do with Hulda?

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06-18-2009 , 11:39 AM

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WTF is wrong with you? If 6-4 is hulda, he's more powerful than the GF. Therefore, it's worth him faking to stay alive

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06-18-2009 , 11:40 AM

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but why would they push Hulda so he can get peeked?

If Hulda is so powerful, why would they want him peeked?

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06-18-2009 , 11:40 AM

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but why would they push Hulda so he can get peeked?

If Hulda is so powerful, why would they want him peeked?

*facepalm*

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06-18-2009 , 11:42 AM

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3) Hulda <-- Probably more powerful/useful than the GF, whose big value this game is getting wagonned early in the day, to set up potential peek by selenay

what don't you get - the part after "GF, whose" is clearly descriptive of "GF"

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06-18-2009 , 11:43 AM

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wolves didn't push sixfour (assuming he's a wolf arguendo). They didn't push BEG either. Which isn't to say no wolves voted for either, that's different. But there's a ton of villagers and the fact that someone has a wagon should not be taken as evidence that wolves "pushed" them. In fact the default assumption should be opposite: If someone is close to getting lynched it's because a lot of villagers want to lynch them.

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06-18-2009 , 11:43 AM

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I misread his line. I thought it said, Hurda- probally more useful then the godfather - and Hurda's main vaule in this game is getting wagoned and peeked.

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06-18-2009 , 11:43 AM

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Here's the full post, again. Please read from start to finish, and attempt to understand all the words:

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HTF do you justify leaving a fake claiming 6-4 alive? He role-claimed 2 minutes before night, with the worst fake claim ever.

There's 4 potential reasons he fakes there
1) Herald <-- Risky, since the angel is a good wolf target
2) Slaver <-- Wouldn't realize his other wagon is the GF
3) Hulda <-- Probably more powerful/useful than the GF, whose big value this game is getting wagonned early in the day, to set up potential peek by selenay
4) Other wolf <-- Unlikely, unless he thought his claim would fail
5) Vanillager <-- Just fail

Am I missing something here?

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06-18-2009 , 11:44 AM

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I'm sorry I failed your reading comprehension test

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06-18-2009 , 11:45 AM

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this

people are putting too much stock into the wolves' ability to run every lynch. like i said, there's only 6 wolves left. if it was w/w yesterday, only 5 wolves were the non-wagons. they are not going to be able to effectively shove a new wagon down our throats

(i mean, i did, but i'm not a wolf, so its ok)

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06-18-2009 , 11:45 AM

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I'm sorry I failed your reading comprehension test

its ok. just dont take the SATs anytime soon

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06-18-2009 , 11:46 AM

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But you wouldn't have been successful at pushing BEG if there weren't already a lot of villagers who considered her a reasonable suspect. And of course it also would have failed probably without the sixfour claim.

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06-18-2009 , 11:50 AM

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its ok. just dont take the SATs anytime soon

what happened to "I'm not mean and vindictive"

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06-18-2009 , 11:51 AM

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agreed

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what happened to "I'm not mean and vindictive"

sorry, next time i'll put a smiley face so you know i'm just kidding around

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06-18-2009 , 11:57 AM

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This post by you Norseman is very strange.

1. Its extremely well written.
2. You cannot possibily know how I play, I have never ever played with you before and you thought I was scott howard on entering the game. Its almost like someone else typed it for you.

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Not so I think. This game you've been very quiet which to me feels more like your wolf game than your village game. You are far more aggressive as a villager IMHO to the point of 'rubbing people the wrong way'. Your wolf game you aren't as vocal and you sort of hang out at the sidelines and wait for villas to make some kind of error and jump on it and them. Your PVN vote is an example IMHO of your wolf game.

Thus I will leave Karak567 wagon today and advocate you at least be a peek candidate.

I do agree with most of the leaders of BEG's wagon that 6-4 is the lynch du jour but the seer as I understand it peeks the lead wagon at anytime they want so you need to be in the lead for some period of time today. In case my and DMK's read is wrong and you are indeed a loyal citizen then perhaps you will be spared a misslynching.

VOTE :: BitchiBee

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06-18-2009 , 11:58 AM

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norseman definitely should answer the question as to how he knows bitchi's game (and provide a link or two)

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06-18-2009 , 11:58 AM

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And don't make the excuse that thats SH's game, I specified very clearly I am not him. And you described my games to a tee, and I'm sure SH is way too good to be classified in that manner.

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06-18-2009 , 12:00 PM

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And don't make the excuse that thats SH's game, I specified very clearly I am not him. And you described my games to a tee, and I'm sure SH is way too good to be classified in that manner.

fwiw if you nail norse here i'll never vote you regardless of 64s role (i.e. i'll vote norse tomorrow)

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06-18-2009 , 12:02 PM

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my first try to prove that someone else wrote it involved searching for other instances of the misspelling "misslynching" but nothing came up.

I guess I should go read some other norse language to see what I think. The idea of someone else writing it and then norse inserting some IMHO's is amusing.

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06-18-2009 , 12:03 PM

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Just an fyi if my count is correct we have reached the day that we now have an Nker in our midst, should we get a general consensus on who the Nker should nk or do we trust the nker to make his own judgement?

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06-18-2009 , 12:05 PM

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I think it's usually better to let the vig worry about it. I suppose in general it's often considered the best use of the vig to resolve wagons (in the absence of some particular lead) and that might hold here, except with the caveat that if resolving the wagons means killing someone who may have gotten a wagon peek it might not be so hot.