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I agree with most of your comments there. The question is whether FCBL is more likely to make those posts as a panicking villager, or as a wolf who already has a pretty decent shot at winning the game if he does stay UTR while not posting anything controversial.

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06-29-2009 , 04:52 PM

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Hmm, good point. I have to think about that.

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06-29-2009 , 04:54 PM

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How valuable do you think the wolves would see FCBL as being?

Vote buyer is obv more valuable than karak, who was a vanilla wolf. With wahoo/Hulda being on a few suspect lists, without having got too much heat tho, I don't see what they could gain from bussing him there, while the other wolves were pretty much locks to be killed pretty fast.

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06-29-2009 , 04:56 PM

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This is where we disagree. I think that elliot would be around at must-lynch 90%+ of the time, and that generally esse would know why not if he wasn't going to be here.

I don't recall Norse's communication restrictions off the top of my head, so I will check how easy it would be for his companion to tell him about any suspicions they had on esse.

10 word PM every day, not containing names or numbers.

easy to send a PM saying: the last Herald is lying....

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06-29-2009 , 04:56 PM

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Sorry, I was more meaning in terms of how valuable they would see FCBL as a player - in the same way that they might be less likely to bus Zurvan, for example, regardless of his precise role, as he's thought to be quite good at WW. Then again, they are unlikely to bus the votebuyer unless he's doomed or hopeless (which FCBL isn't).

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06-29-2009 , 04:56 PM

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This is frustrating.

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06-29-2009 , 04:58 PM

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In that case, the only options for wolf bussings were karak and BEG, the other ones had higher skills and better roles.

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06-29-2009 , 04:58 PM

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I have a feeling your leaning towards voting xr8ed, Caedus, amirite?

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06-29-2009 , 04:58 PM

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10 word PM every day, not containing names or numbers.

easy to send a PM saying: the last Herald is lying....

Yeah, Norse obviously didn't get a message like this. It's a shame he didn't make it clear whether he got a message at all. If esse was the wolf, Norse would have been blocked yesterday.

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06-29-2009 , 05:00 PM

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biggerboat

Again to everyone wanting to follow me, keep ur options open from what happens from now til EOD. You have all put more time in this game than me in the past week, and being more involved gives you a better chance at a better read.

JUST PLEASE DO NOT LYNCH THE FOLLOWING PLAYERS:

rene/mac/well named/esse

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06-29-2009 , 05:03 PM

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I have a feeling your leaning towards voting xr8ed, Caedus, amirite?

Nope, bigger, and I'm now locked on him. Xr8ed could be a decent option as well, as could ludo. That's all I have. If the wolf is someone else, then he's played a hell of a game.

If you can afford the time mac, do your best in the final hours, your reads can prove invaluable to the village in the home stretch. I believe you can find the last wolf.

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06-29-2009 , 05:04 PM

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Anyone have post numbers or quotes on why rchandra is deemed clear?

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06-29-2009 , 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by FCBLComish

If I get lynched as a villager, take a look at the people on my wagon.

X-Hasselhoff WOFL
Well Named WOFL
Dustin WOFL
Bitchibee WOFL

Bobman Probably villager

Save this post just in case.

I can't believe I am doing this, but I quoted this, then decided not to use it, but then as I kept reading down, I called it out for being wolfy. I said ""ZOMG this man just spewed himself wolf, if he was a villa, he would have said "when I get lynched as a villa" not "if I get lynched as a villa"""

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06-29-2009 , 05:15 PM

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Anyone have post numbers or quotes on why rchandra is deemed clear?

I believe it's because of these 2 posts by Karak:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=5914

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=5920

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06-29-2009 , 05:15 PM

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disagree, it's common for people to write from the perspective of others looking at him - he knows we can't assume he's villager

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06-29-2009 , 05:17 PM

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I have to go now, hope to be at a computer before EOD but can't guarantee it.

my clearness: one of the heralds said so from a companion message, but it sounded like their read not a peek.

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06-29-2009 , 05:19 PM

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Alright I just read 4000-4150 and FCBL isn't a wolf, he is the lead wagan and he leaves for the day. I think a wolf sticks around to claim 100% of the time, tao ended up being the lynch that day.

I will once again fight to the death for FCBL.

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06-29-2009 , 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by essedarius

I believe it's because of these 2 posts by Karak:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=5914

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=5920

Surely there's more to it than that.

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06-29-2009 , 05:25 PM

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Surely there's more to it than that.

Why don't you go look for it? Just spit it out if you think there's something we should know, there's no point to withhold any thoughts at this point.

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06-29-2009 , 05:29 PM

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Why don't you go look for it? Just spit it out if you think there's something we should know, there's no point to withhold any thoughts at this point.

No, I don't have anything specific. I don't find rereads very helpful at this stage, as the thread is way too big for me to understand the contexts people are posting in, and I don't have time. I was just concerned that he seemed to have totally dropped off the suspect list, and I couldn't think of why that was.

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06-29-2009 , 05:35 PM

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I've gone through another 500 posts and the only thing I can get is xr8ed is the only person with a wolfy tone, yesterday was such a failure, I wish I wasn't so hammered.

Digger,

what are your thoughts on xr8ed today?

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06-29-2009 , 05:39 PM

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If I have to go off the board, its going to be rchandra, can someone link wdc's post clearing her plz.

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06-29-2009 , 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by McAvoy

someone already said this (maybe you?).

the if/when doesnt equate to wolfiness imo, 'if' just simply implies that it might happen, where as 'when' implies that it IS going to happen, something a villager wouldn't want right?

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06-29-2009 , 05:43 PM

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jumping in the shower then going to work.

see you all in 1/2 hour or so

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06-29-2009 , 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by wdcbooks

Ok you tards. I have to do this. I am Talia.

Bobman is a wolf. As was Zurvan, as was Tao.

I was blocked last night so I am assuming I am slated for death tonight. I know little for certain.

I know as a peek that the following are village:

Willd

My companion is GTIT. He communicates with pictures. Through his communication he tells me the following people are village. I am not comfortable saying NEVER lynch them, but don't lynch them for a long long time:

Well Named
Norse
Digger
Essedarius

Outside of this, reads wise, it is pretty damn obvious Dustin is village.

I don't know if these are just his strong reads, or if this comes from outside information. I also peeked Goofy to make him Selenay, Tao by accident even though I already knew he was a wolf because I puzzled out GTIT telling me that Jennifer Garner picked Tao, Zurv and Aries before Goofy. I actually peeked Tao, then changed to Swiitch, but was given Tao when Swiitch was modkilled. Finally I had DMK.

I think it is pretty clear that the gig is up when Bob came after Will, who is the peek I left yesterday. They couldn't ignore three wolves on my wolf list and seeing the three die in a row. They couldn't kill me earlier because if they were wrong it would have been a disaster.

I would strongly urge the village to consider lynching Scrubbo, JWalsh, Wahoo or Caedus in the next few days, or at least have a healthy debate. They match both GTIT and my lynch lists. I wanted to let this day run to get the best possible information out there.

Sorry I can't give more, but I agonized over a way I could indicate I had more information than just my peeks. I can't think of a way to do it. The best I get if I live another day is one more peek, and I can't justify dying without saying anything.

qf whatever,

rchandra, why shouldn't we kill you today?

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