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Cae, how do you explain Elliot not giving him any info then? either elliot believes he is a wolf or Esse is lying he hasnt received any info.

ah nvm

i know why esse isnt the wolf

if he was the wolf he would lie about getting info from Elliot that an easy lynch was the wolf (like fcbl or bigger)

ESSE IS NOT THE LAST WOLF IM SURE NOW

FCBL has a higher chance of being one though

Rene

Do you think Elliot would just vanish without explaining to esse where he has gone? I've played endgames with Elliot before, and he would be around, or esse would know why not.

If Elliot thought that esse was now the wolf, then esse would have to invent reasons for clearing himself, as well as a case for voting someone else.

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06-29-2009 , 04:22 PM

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One thing bugs me about digger. I was pretty much ready during my reread to clear him, but his posts yesterday regarding the timing of me being peeked by Hulda leave a weird feeling. As I said to him, I had left clear peeks of digger=wolf and karak=wolf in the day leading up to me being peeked. I don't particularly think I would have been peeked if both were right tho, when I would have had all day to make sure my peeks were 100% clear had I been a Herald. Digger is very likely clear, but I would like an explanation for him not discussing my fake peek of him, when he had put himself on Aries' wolf list when he analyzed that nk...

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06-29-2009 , 04:22 PM

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Ludo esse is not the last wolf, dont cast suspicion on him, that way you cast suspicion on yourself

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06-29-2009 , 04:24 PM

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Please stop talking about esse. It is a complete waste of time, and he is NOT the final wolf.

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06-29-2009 , 04:25 PM

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Please stop talking about esse. It is a complete waste of time, and he is NOT the final wolf.

You seem very sure of this. How do you explain Eliot's lack of communication then?

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06-29-2009 , 04:25 PM

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Yeah, BEG is one I would like peeked.

I came across this biggerboat post during my reread, surprised no one has ever mentioned it. But wanting the godfather peeked looks absolutely awful.

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06-29-2009 , 04:26 PM

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exactly i found that out as well

guys im willing to vote: FCBL, biggerboat, Ludo to a lesser extent, the rest im seriously not voting for (unless caedus is weird and chooses to vote some1 else i WILL vote with him we need UNCLOSE wagons)

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06-29-2009 , 04:26 PM

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biggerboat wanting the godfather lynched is a sin

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06-29-2009 , 04:27 PM

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You seem very sure of this. How do you explain Eliot's lack of communication then?

Elliot left on a business/other reason trip on Friday night, and he might not be able to access the internet as much as he would like.

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06-29-2009 , 04:27 PM

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Posts 1549 and 2608 from wahoo are the crux of my case about ludo. During my reread, these jumped out at me as being wahoo spewing ludo wolf. Rereading these posts in a vacuum does not convince me tho.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=1549

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=2608

Here they are, so everyone hasn't have to waste time on finding them.

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06-29-2009 , 04:27 PM

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fcbl think about it, if your esse and your a wolf you just make up a story about the companions who say the want to lynch either you or bigger

easiest ever so no he is not the last wolf

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06-29-2009 , 04:29 PM

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Ludo esse is not the last wolf, dont cast suspicion on him, that way you cast suspicion on yourself

Rene

If people would give me a good reason as to why he isn't a wolf, then I would change.

Look, esse has two possible strategies as the wolf regarding elliot. He can either make up stuff, which is difficult as people would ask him to get elliot to explain his reads in detail, and several people here have played with elliot a fair bit, so may well catch him in a lie. Alternatively, he can claim to be blocked, and avoid having to deal with these things, except he didn't realise that he couldn't be blocked today. I suspect that he's been caught out by FCBL here, as I think it is very unlikely that elliot would not help us here if he could.

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06-29-2009 , 04:29 PM

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Regarding FCBL, apart from his insistence about looking at esse this day, there is nothing that makes me want to vote him, and I will not vote him in front of bigger or ludo.

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06-29-2009 , 04:30 PM

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esse is quite good at making stuff up

remember his prophecy stuff in Star Wars...

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06-29-2009 , 04:32 PM

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esse is quite good at making stuff up

remember his prophecy stuff in Star Wars...

like that he might be being blocked when this was impossible?

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06-29-2009 , 04:34 PM

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like that he might be being blocked when this was impossible?

I'm reasonably surethat he's telling the truth here and that Elliot has not answered him. Last game day there was another Herald in the game who could have exposed a lie from esse, and he did not do so. Therefore esse is telling the truth.

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06-29-2009 , 04:36 PM

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Xr8ed could be another suspect for assuming quite fast that digger's posts would end with the conclusion that Xr8ed was wolf, before it was clear that that was the end point.

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06-29-2009 , 04:37 PM

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In case you missed this one:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=7291

I can prove that I did everything he asked me to do in the thread.

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06-29-2009 , 04:38 PM

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Caedus why do you think FCBCL isn't a wolf?

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06-29-2009 , 04:39 PM

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FCBL meh about elliot being gone

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06-29-2009 , 04:40 PM

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Caedus why do you think FCBCL isn't a wolf?

The fact that all the wolves wanted to lynch him, plus a feeling from his posts. The wolf votes should be discounted tho, since on d2 a majority of the wolves was on karak, they were very willing to bus him.

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06-29-2009 , 04:42 PM

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This is where we disagree. I think that elliot would be around at must-lynch 90%+ of the time, and that generally esse would know why not if he wasn't going to be here.

I don't recall Norse's communication restrictions off the top of my head, so I will check how easy it would be for his companion to tell him about any suspicions they had on esse.

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06-29-2009 , 04:42 PM

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I will lock my vote in 15 minutes, as I have to get back to work after that. If anyone can make a good case by then, I'm listening.

To the players who have pledged to vote with me, keep ur mind open from here to end of day. I will not have the last 3 hours of info of this day to go on, there might be a better option by then.