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04-08-2014 , 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by domer2
alright so i am going to guess the kills went down like this:

wolf nk: the moocher
wolf vig: gadarene
village(?) vig: cdl

wolf poison: wilverine
village(?) poison: hurp durpington
Not sure on the poisoning but otherwise this seems accurate.
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04-08-2014 , 08:00 AM
domer2
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04-08-2014 , 08:00 AM
I have started reading disko for spew, you're all invited to join.
Ash, TTT and mucks are probably spewed villagers, this needs to be doublechecked cuz I'm not very good at reading spew.
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04-08-2014 , 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Hurp Durpington
This wolf team is clearly led by an amateur. The poison spews me villager.

I am the second wagon

Village poisoner would never poison the second wagon, in the fear of the second wagon being resolved. Only the wolves have the privileged information of knowing the second wagon is 1. a villager and 2. would survive

therefore, I am a villager

you are welcome

Pick a bit better wolves
This came to my mind too, but it depends how good the villa poisoner is.
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04-08-2014 , 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by StuckinARutt
like seriously anyone who tried to start a cfd on me eod was a wolf claim
wasn't it moocher or mb...?

lame post if so

do you really not know who did it?
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04-08-2014 , 08:02 AM
There is absolutely zero chance domer believes what he's saying. See my logic. He has a clear, straight, singular agenda and he won't change his mind
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04-08-2014 , 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Bloobird
That would be exactly why.
Yeah, I get the idea but it's still an odd choice. Since odds are the poisoners are 1 wolf and 1 villager, we would be able to clear the other one if one flips wolf.
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04-08-2014 , 08:03 AM
lenC
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04-08-2014 , 08:03 AM
Hurpies, bro, I think you might be a villager still but assuming the wolves poisoned you is kinda dumb.

So I'll assume it's late night delirium
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04-08-2014 , 08:04 AM
So Gad is supposed to have peeked someone but I don't know who it's meant to be.

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For my peek think Simon and Paul
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04-08-2014 , 08:04 AM
Morning bros
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04-08-2014 , 08:05 AM
Hey MB

Make a wish
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04-08-2014 , 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Hurp Durpington
There is absolutely zero chance domer believes what he's saying. See my logic. He has a clear, straight, singular agenda and he won't change his mind
????????????
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04-08-2014 , 08:06 AM
To elaborate, disko gets to peek a post number on day3, and if anyone reaches that post on that day, he dies. He has the exact same power on day4. So we should kill him today imo
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04-08-2014 , 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by lenC
Why would a wolf poison Wilverine? From other peoples reads it seemed he was howling.
I thought so too so him being poisened this morning is odd

Wolves leveling?
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04-08-2014 , 08:06 AM
I wish for an affiliation peek that is accurately revealed in the thread.
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04-08-2014 , 08:06 AM
i wish i had a dayvig
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04-08-2014 , 08:07 AM
Jonnyd is a wolf, and here is why

His posts reading back were alarming. I dug deeper and yes, I can confirm that he is indeed a wolf. Here I will show beyond a doubt why his thought process is never that of a villager

1. I noticed his re-entry when he came back in after he was under fire from some people. Note that he said this.

Exhibit A

So I ran a search. Very little mention of me, 1 in fact, before that humongous "wolf list". He basically said "hurpdurp are you a wilf?", i never respond, and then he decides that I'm a wolf lean.

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fwiw as I've said multiple times i have a claim and will do so if i need to

and even if i don't if anyone shoots me tonight you're targeting a villager who can clear himself so lol you
A recurring theme, rather than make reads he falls back on his claim to fame (or soon to be claim)

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WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT PEOPLE WHO ARE LIKE, ACTUALLY GOING TO BE LYNCHED TODAY?

3. this alarmed me again, for similar reasons. How does he feel so passionate? He had a huge post gap. His last post in the afternoon, the "Hurp durp are you a wolf" post, was posted at 1:30. Observe:
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hurp durp are you wolfing
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hey guys

How is he so in loop with vix? I thought, hmm he must've wrote an essay or two on vix or cdl!



Nop, no mentions of vix. Just like no mentions of me. So he has no basis in his 'confident' pushes and defends, but he sure sounds sure of himself. I wonder how

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/ne...ply&p=42814871

This simply does not match the strength of his posts and presence ITT, as I have shown that he has no significant mention of me or these guys. this is a wolf making a wolf list to escape mention, there is probably at least a wolf there for correctness purposes

He proceeds to make a bunch of soft posts, highlighted by him being able to clear himself, rather than actually making reads. unworthy of showing

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hurp



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Originally Posted by jonnyd
yg/hurp wagons are good

vagos wagon is bad

Magical. He has parlayed his lack of mentions of me with that of yg, and suddenly me and YG are great wagons in his eyes. How can he be so confident, i wonder?

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vote hurppppp

Suddenly he is very confident. seems legitimate

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Originally Posted by jonnyd
LYNCH HURP FOR GREAT SUCCESS

FOR GREAT SUCCESS!!! confidence does not match his thread presence. at all. one thinks that he would try and elucidate his 'read' on me, but nope\

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IF IM WRONG ABOUT YOU HURP MY BAD

And here comes the hedge!

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wow hurp pushed a vanilla wolf d1

LOCK CLEAR GUYS

this is the coup de grace, for himself that is. It's one thing for a villager to say this when he's worked hard on a constructed case tha the believes in. remember, he has not said a word or elaborated on why i'm a wolf. no timing tells, no wolfy posts, no nothing. but now he says this. He ACKNOWLEDGES that I pushed a vanilla wolf(!) yet, in a spot where a villager would do a double take (look at the posts around his), he just goes ahead and use the positive evidence as FUEL FOR THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ARGUMENT. This is not a villager's thinking process. This is a wolf with his mind made up already.

Cliff notes:
  • He is repeatedly pressured, and instead of doing reads or work his main fallback is the threat with his claim
  • He manufactures wolf reads on people when pressured to supply an acceptable wolf list. I have shown that his wolf reads are not plausible
  • Instead of considering circumstantial factors, his mind is already made up on my lynch or yg's. He has already made up his mind. This is not a villager's mindset

I am shooting jonnyd until he is dead

Jonnyd is a wolf, and here is why
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04-08-2014 , 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by UncleDynamite
To elaborate, disko gets to peek a post number on day3, and if anyone reaches that post on that day, he dies. He has the exact same power on day4. So we should kill him today imo
Cool.

disko not living through ITAs but let's put the symbolic vote here.
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04-08-2014 , 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Bloobird
Important things:

1) Some of the consensus villas should wish for stuff asap, given that it seems basically confirmed we have a wishgranter ITG. They probably can't grant my wish again, but in case they can, I wish for a peek.
2) obv I reckon I'm a great mod candidate today, vote for me!
3) imma captain the itas alongside whichever consensus villas have lived through the night (MB and Felix are my clearest villabros). It worked pretty well in Star Wars, I reckon we can get it working well here if we get a decent shat list that's vaguely consensus from the clearer villas.
4) if I had a night action I targeted disko, if it's a peek then he woofin'

OK, so just gonna throw out some quick wolf reads with short explanations. Would like some heat on all of them, this is my very early draft shat list.

Wolves (in vague order of certainty)

lenC - only managed 27 posts, several of which pinged me badly as wolfy, had quite a few posts around EOD but said nothing about the wagons at all until he ended up on Dwetz

Suq - still very wolfy yesterday (that 'wait fnord is dead, what did he flip?' post still looks like the least likely to be a real post ever), and I don't really like how his wagon died away so quickly

monikrazy - a few posts that definitely looked disingenuous (the 'mods are wolves' one that someone pointed out already was the worst), ended up on Dwetz

Jimmy Rustle - this doesn't look like villa Kruze at all to me

cjkalt - has seemed like he's largely in commentary mode with a few overaggro moments to me, not feeling it.*

insanity - oh look it's insanity's slanky wolf game again

also someone read #3450 and tell me it doesn't look shady as hell. I've been generally reading buttigers as villa but damn I hate that post

oh, and just for completeness, here's some villas (all readz, no peeks here):

MB
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Felix
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Mucks
Forsythio
Duckburg
BATM (hate to say it but I'm actually pretty sure he's villa on a re-read)
TTT
zdye
accobrakid
Vagos/younguns (honestly would not be that surprised if one of them was a wolf given both would be on my wolflist if it wasn't for the mason claim)
I like this list bloo

Reread a little bit last night.

Insanity needs to be looked up today. Very similar to his d1 in the previous game
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04-08-2014 , 08:07 AM
Wolves like poisoning UTRs...that way you have two sketchballs both getting poisoned and the healer can't figure out who to heal.

I think the wolves poisoning the second wagon is too stupid to believe. That's just my initial opinion though.
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04-08-2014 , 08:07 AM
strong villa
Thingyman
UD
moocher
aksdal
monkey banana

villagery
mffnike - he comes from a pure mindset. He believes what he says. I'm fine with that

eurotrash - not lock clear by any means, but i see hints. I'm looking forward to his work today

VMF-need to a bit more work i think .but i'm comfortable calling him villa based on some of his posts and interaction with fnord

mucks - frustration early mirrors with the first time he got dayvigged in a big game. Looks generally involved and interested. Awesome posts here and there

ihcjay - idk, not as aidsy but I feel like he's been surprisingly on point and I'd say without knowing results that he is playing well

vader - he's been more aggressive and active than usual. Like he sounds like he is voicing some things he cares about. I like his post about if rollwave does not go, he prefers me over dwetzel because i know we are v/v. And idont think wolves would bother saying these things if it's v/v

well named - like his posts about janny. I agree. Also, http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/59...l#post42811868, this is a case of TLI, very limp post if wn and fnord are w/w

stuck - the derps, IMO, were not wolfy. His EOD posts imo were more in line with a villa who didn't have time. Remember, terrible <> wolfy. The rate at which his "CFD" took off was alarming as well, i thin he's a villager; his clueless "don't like dwetzel, will vote yg to save him" post was villagery

Vagos/YG - it's not inconceivable that they are w/w. Howver, yg's pleas I think were of reluctant villa PRs, not awolf with a claim in hand. They are fine for now

kaze -aggressive, in tune, 180s a bunch, i'm liking his posts

cdl - there are signs of his "aidsy" villa game. His fervour on a stuck CFD feels pure

henruk - thinner, but when he did post i liked where he was coming from. Offhand but sharp observations, passive aggressive snark that actually is on point.

zdye - uncertain and limp but still coming from a villagery agenda
Chips aHOY - feels like avillager but skeeving me out abit. Judge him but his reads, not his claims or anything else

mets - his emo outburst is role neutral, but the fact that his remaining posts were used not totroll back but to contribute, which showed he clearly was in flow and reading alone, is villagery.

hmm

Domer2-very strange, has some good posts but mostly been posting very limp. I read the entire peek episode and he refused to even read fnord, except http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/59...d#post42810074. if this goes later, do not discount him and let him live. His wolf lean on askthepizzaguy is abysmal

insanity31

marknfw - has too many wolves, more than the thread presence warrants

mutigers - haven't read to many of his posts. But he reminds me of me wolfing. A lot of absolutes, a lot of confident, brazen, dgaf if he gets caught with his agenda, push the brazen line wolf. I will devote 20% of my owlings on his surveillance today

Monik - his entrance was supremely confident, but his posts have been fairly bad after. 15% of my owlings

Noze - Under the guise of Noze being Noze I feel like he's sneakily pushing a wolf agenda

Hoya - he comes to play today or he dies

Brokenatm - posting very limp. But actually contributing. I'm reading him as a village PR, and if so, god help us

wolfy
jonnyd

Rollwave - sounded a bit frozen, especially towards the EOD. He was clearly around at eod, but he didn't offer any profound, RW-y thoughts. He sounded limp and frozen really. Look at his eod. The wagon movements makes me think he's a wolf

Vix - spent too much time harping on cdl. Euro caught me for this once - being caught for the wrong reasons. And you can't help but keep going on. vILLAGER would likely drop it, a wolf would harp on it. Very skeptical
suq - thought he cleared himself with his pleas a bit, but after thinking, nah not really. His vote on wn is abysmal, especially since i'm a villa and it was v/v. Classic wolf ploy

Jimmy Rustle - Idk, if he's a wolf he's a wolf pr. Call it the resistance to wagon theorem
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04-08-2014 , 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by domer2
alright so i am going to guess the kills went down like this:

wolf nk: the moocher
wolf vig: gadarene
village(?) vig: cdl

wolf poison: wilverine
village(?) poison: hurp durpington
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Originally Posted by domer2
Wolves like poisoning UTRs...that way you have two sketchballs both getting poisoned and the healer can't figure out who to heal.

I think the wolves poisoning the second wagon is too stupid to believe. That's just my initial opinion though.
sorry, can`t back track that easily

Don`t worry about your flight. I`ll personally see to it that you are relieved of your duties regardless of your `claim`. You`ll have the honor of being shot at even before dear jonny
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04-08-2014 , 08:10 AM
hit list:
jonnyd
domer2
rollwave
vix
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04-08-2014 , 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Monkey Banana
So Gad is supposed to have peeked someone but I don't know who it's meant to be.
so i mean the only obvious connection i can think of is paul simon

simon & paul are both important figures in christianity but i don't think they're connected

i think the peek might just be gibberish meant to look clever and draw a NK
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