I can agree to most of this, though an excuse is there which I have already presented. Again, I should have asked the mods about punishment and did not. For this I will admit to making a mistake.

I'd still like to know if I would have been punished were the restriction not broken intentionally and what that punishment might have entailed

Everyone has a bad game here and there.

For example, the living GOAT, chips ahoy, didn't do well here, but it doesn't tarnish his legacy in the least.

It's like saying Barry Bonds sucks at baseball because he went 0-5 in a AAA game eons ago.

For those curious, "tried to sabotage" = made precisely one incorrect vote late in the game, then singlehandedly won the tiebreaker to salvage a team win in the game anyway and functionally negate the mistake. In a game nearly 2.5 years old now.

A little fast and loose with the definition of sabotage maybe, but us deliberate saboteurs gotta get called out now and again.

Well yeah, but that was from domer and literally nobody gives a single iota of a **** what he thinks

Chips is an average player that everyone thinks is good for some reason. His turbo and long game stats are middle of the pack. Not good at finding wolves.

Also suffers from overbearing arrogance because he believes the hype...which combined with an inability to find wolves results in bad times for his team.

master, two part question that hopefully explains why people are mad at you:

1) Was there any possible scenario in which you violating your post restriction would be beneficial to your team, based on what you knew from your PM?

2) Assuming your answer to question #1 is "nope", why'd you **** over your team by doing it anyway?

I threw that out there as some trollbait because I saw what you said to/about him in DVC

While chips struggles a bit as a wolf, he's leagues ahead of you in terms of wolfhunting ability.

And putting that aside, his contributions to this community (fennec fox/tatiana) make him a much more valuable piece than you. So show some respect imo.

You are nuts.

Talk to the thread about Dx4's role.

It seems like unanimous opinion would be that he'ld have been well within reasonable play to get himself modkilled.

Why would you conceivably think that the mods would have given any sensible/informative answer to a putative question from master asking what would happen if he violated the restriction in his role?

Is this kind of -ev role really a good thing (as opposed to being enabled to make a player on an opposing team talk in birdsong or whatever)?

seems tchaz is drunk.

there was NO benefit for master to break his role restriction.

Pretty sure they would have clarified if he had asked.

Donk^4 has a legitimate gripe with his role, I don't believe master does.

donk's role was way worse than master's

both are dumb, anti-fun, and really "strictly worse than vanilla" roles don't belong in games and will never appear in mine*

that said, master deliberately triggering it is a 0% play and he should know it


*unless I forget or something

read Monte's post itt

ok - so it's probably a slight on master's overall ev as a villager, but a reasonable alternative interpretation is that getting himself modkilled given his role in this game was better than not doing so, which would (~90%) inevitably lead the village to waste a kill on him. Mutatis mutandi, obv I'm not criticising Dx4 for playing it out, but, again, getting himself insta mod-killed would have been very +ev for the village

And given the role (and the same goes for master) that is not, imo, angle-shooting and/or against the spirit of the game.

obv I agree with your second paragraph. I probably would have - again spammed - the thread to obviate the restriction. And I would probably have managed to cope with it. (no promise).

But the most salient point is unknowable - whether the punishment would have been clarified.

And my experience with this kind of nerfed role is that mods refuse to clarify.

Which is pretty frustrating.

My view is that ww games would be better if mods didn't troll specific (obv randed, one presumes) individual players.

[edit] master's take doesn't seem at all unreasonable to me.

I also don't know if he would be so arrogant as I would have been to think that posting <=10 words/post wouldn't be taken as an automatic sign of a slanking wolf with an invented restriction.

[was this Noze counting until he lost a life I'm thinking of?]

or you could play with the post restriction and shoot a wolf or something

not that hard

I think there wasn't even a restriction against saying anything about it, so you make like 3 posts that say

I have a post restriction
I can only post in short sentences
With no more than 10 words per post

there, you're practically lock clear

as someone who managed to post an entire day of MTG2 in poetry, you CAN even have fun with that sort of restriction and turn it to your advantage, if you want to

donk's you truly just can't, which is why it sucked so much worse

so how to play them from there is up to personal interpretation crossmatched with meta. if mistakes were made so be it.


tbh, it seems to be you really should be having a go at the bold-red people - thingyman etc

[not that I want to, still less that I had a horse in the race about the outcome of the game]

& that was pretty good iirc - I think i railed some of if

yeah - I agree with this. I wouldn't have take that line (in before the ldo's), but, again, I can't criticise it from someone who is more of a risk taker. Maybe contravention would have been on a sliding scale, idk, 1st time: having you ita nerfed, 2nd time: ...? Still would have been nice to have had something in the PM setting out the rulez, agreed?

Tchaz, the reason so many considered it an "acceptable" play from master is because it probably doesn't rank as a bottom-10 moment for him in MM history. If he's going to come here and claim that he didn't do it intentionally and he didn't bother asking the mods about it (if he really was that confused about it), then lol master

It'd be a different conversation if he owned it as a strategic play, but he isn't for some reason.

And as far as the bold-red people go, it's a shame that pizzaguy is ducking this postgame

GG. Wolves played well, village didn't. I had gripes, but they've prolly all been said and I forgot them by now anyways.

Thanks Gabe for that event. Easy high point for me.

Glad I died when I did. Was prolly going to be mod killed for not meeting my stupid troll rule restriction.

sure, that would have been better

but, it's not like it's hard to imagine what exactly will happen, and it ain't good

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