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09-06-2015 , 12:13 PM
You can't seriously believe that you responding should in itself indicate to me you are a villager.
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09-06-2015 , 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Ace of Spaids
Providing elaboration itself is not wolfy. It's what you posted. You are smarter than this. You know the answer someone provides means more than the fact that they responded at all.
No your logic is bad here you asked me to provide an example, I did then you jumped on me for providing an example . Now explain to me why it is bad
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09-06-2015 , 12:14 PM
Sun,

You are easy to read. Talk to me.
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09-06-2015 , 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by AllInBluff
No your logic is bad here you asked me to provide an example, I did then you jumped on me for providing an example . Now explain to me why it is bad
So you're claiming you were referring all along to a post I made much earlier rather than the post you responded to?
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09-06-2015 , 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Ace of Spaids
Viggorous,

You are right about Sun's opening. It is stylistically different than his usual play. Maybe he was drunk?

CyberShark's opening was standard for him.

That comment about fraleyight is a math joke. I am guessing you're a philosopher. Obviously he has the same chance of randing wolf every game. Which is why he starts off as greater than random viller. Did you not see the part about me saying I'll keep an eye on him? Very interesting the way you phrased your response, though!
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Originally Posted by Ace of Spaids
Not sure about that. Elaborate please.

I'm not worried about Sun. He has a tell that is bizarrely consistent given how good he is.
Several people have voiced concern about sun you have brushed these aside with little to no reason and made what I consider excuses. Looks like W/W or V/W to me here Ace the fact you can't acknowledge this and instead pushed me for having suspicion is wolfy AF
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09-06-2015 , 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Ace of Spaids
So you're claiming you were referring all along to a post I made much earlier rather than the post you responded to?
Both
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09-06-2015 , 12:19 PM
Sun, I prefer not to make wolf reads until everyone has posted. I am convinced that the availability heuristic plays a huge part in day 1 MLs.

Most of the people posting seem villagery to me so far.
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09-06-2015 , 12:20 PM
Again, you have not at all demonstrated me brushing aside any voiced concerns about Sun. You have a lot more work to do if you want to convince anyone I'm a wolf.
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09-06-2015 , 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by AllInBluff
Both
Okee dokee.
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09-06-2015 , 12:21 PM
What I'd like from Ace, if he's around is a "meta report" on these "unknown" players. A few names I'm not that familiar with.
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09-06-2015 , 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Ace of Spaids
So you're claiming you were referring all along to a post I made much earlier rather than the post you responded to?
Again answer the question I asked why was my progression bad/wolfy
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09-06-2015 , 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by LordJvK
What I'd like from Ace, if he's around is a "meta report" on these "unknown" players. A few names I'm not that familiar with.
Who you consider unknown?
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09-06-2015 , 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by AllInBluff
Again answer the question I asked why was my progression bad/wolfy
The post you responded to contained nothing you could use to justify your accusation. It looked like you realized this so then read back over the thread to find something to justify your accusation. Admittedly this requires me to follow your progression, so I could be wrong, but by your own admittance, you were in part saying the post you were actually responding to contained something to justify your accusation, so I feel more confident I correctly followed your line of thinking. This makes it look like you began with a conclusion and are now gathering evidence to support that conclusion.
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09-06-2015 , 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Ace of Spaids
The post you responded to contained nothing you could use to justify your accusation. It looked like you realized this so then read back over the thread to find something to justify your accusation. Admittedly this requires me to follow your progression, so I could be wrong, but by your own admittance, you were in part saying the post you were actually responding to contained something to justify your accusation, so I feel more confident I correctly followed your line of thinking. This makes it look like you began with a conclusion and are now gathering evidence to support that conclusion.
you boldly stated you are not worried about sun also while stating he is a great player if you can't see why that raises a few alarm bells I can't help you see it. Yes I had read the thread and noted your response to Viggo because it read similar to your answer in the last game I played with you about your wolf bro in that game.
If sun flips wolf your >>rand to be a wolf increases in my view You have a good grasp on my game having read most of them you attacking me over me playing like me seems fake and your answer don't reassure me to have a villa lean on you I will leave it here because we will continue to go in a circular argument
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09-06-2015 , 12:37 PM
first time that no 1 calls my opening wolfy, great success?
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09-06-2015 , 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by AllInBluff
I found your opening weird and wolfy it is page 1 stuff but it pinged me about you now if you could go ahead and provide evidence that I am not seeking the truth and show evidence of me not concerned with solving it that would be appreciated there is a difference between stating something you think and being set on that as a predetermined outcome when you state it
You made an assumption that I don't post fluff.

That is either true or not true.

What have you done to test that assumption?

A seeker of truth doesn't just make things up. A seeker of truth puts ideas to the test.
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09-06-2015 , 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Ace of Spaids
Sun,

You are easy to read. Talk to me.
This is true. What do you want to talk about?
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09-06-2015 , 12:41 PM
not gona apply to the aids viller alliance(AVA?) membership seems not exclusive enough
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09-06-2015 , 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu
You made an assumption that I don't post fluff.

That is either true or not true.

What have you done to test that assumption?

A seeker of truth doesn't just make things up. A seeker of truth puts ideas to the test.
No I stated in my limited experience with you, you don't post fluff this was not an assumption it is a small sample size sure but it was not just made up
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09-06-2015 , 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by CyberShark93
first time that no 1 calls my opening wolfy, great success?
I don't like this post for some reason
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09-06-2015 , 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by AllInBluff
I don't like this post for some reason
looks like i have jinxed it, or maybe its just AIB xD
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09-06-2015 , 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by AllInBluff
No I stated in my limited experience with you, you don't post fluff this was not an assumption it is a small sample size sure but it was not just made up
Again, this doesn't show an interest in the truth.

Falling back on your limited experience is making an excuse for being wrong.

I didn't fault you for the assumption. You have to start somewhere and it doesn't matter how good or bad the method of attaining an idea is. That's irrelevant.

I faulted you for not doing anything to test this idea.

Even if you don't want to put in the effort of looking at past games, it would be really easy to ask other people whether it's true that I never posy fluff or if I only post fluff as a wild.

Even without doing that though, it should only take a moment's reflection to realize that neither of those things is remotely plausible.
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09-06-2015 , 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu
Again, this doesn't show an interest in the truth.

Falling back on your limited experience is making an excuse for being wrong.

I didn't fault you for the assumption. You have to start somewhere and it doesn't matter how good or bad the method of attaining an idea is. That's irrelevant.

I faulted you for not doing anything to test this idea.

Even if you don't want to put in the effort of looking at past games, it would be really easy to ask other people whether it's true that I never posy fluff or if I only post fluff as a wild.

Even without doing that though, it should only take a moment's reflection to realize that neither of those things is remotely plausible.
Viggo has played with you before and he found your opening off too, other people have found your opening strange I trust Viggo's read of people even when he is wolfing he is right a lot more than he is wrong so other people that know your game have found it off too so now what?
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09-06-2015 , 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Viggorous
Sun's start is very much not something I'd expect from him

Cyber sun interaction reads fake imo, at least from one side
Awaits the he is a wolf for finding something in the thread to back up his actual thought process response
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09-06-2015 , 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu
This is true. What do you want to talk about?
What traits do you think make you so easy to read?
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