I'm just saying that gamer could wander in here, see that post, say "btw I'm xxx" then boom
there are at least two people who have pretty obviously claimed a character without actually saying the name, and either (1) they're lying wolves, (2) the wolves haven't noticed, or (3) there's no character vig (or only one that operates if the specific name is said)
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Originally Posted by Xkf
now that i read this post for its subtleties thsi guy is almost certainly a wolf
i was going to put a disclaimer about how obviously the people themselves shouldn't be claiming their characters, but then i figured it was too stupid and self-evident for someone to try to score points off
guess i was wrong
all of the flavor and roles and stuff so far have been immaculately tailored to the characters -- the flavor has hands down been the best i can remember seeing in a game
and i cannot imagine there being any risk whatsoever in people speculating about OTHER PEOPLE'S CHARACTERS in an attempt to prod at the plausibility of otherwise completely nonfalsifiable claims
but go ahead and be a jackass instead
I disagree with the underlined based on my character and role
So I watched grant wolf (both in the thread and in wolfchat) for ~4 days in the game I recently modded.
He emphatically and definitively is not the type of wolf who is comfortable drawing attention to himself in-thread by making waves or riding out pressure on high-variance plays. I could not be more confident of that impression of him, and I very much doubt he's changed materially in the last couple of weeks.
On d1, he won a dayvig. He then announced that he'd won that dayvig. (Without going back to look, I'm fairly certain that it was a prize that he could have kept to himself if he'd wanted, and nobody would have known the winner, meaning that he could have shot whoever he wanted in secret. I must be wrong about this, because if that was the case I would assume that people would have brought it up as evidence of him being a villager.)
At the time he'd won the dayvig, Telc was the consensus lead wagon by a decentish margin. The talk in the thread centered around the assumption that Telc would be the likely person to be resolved, and most people who offered opinions said that Telc was one of their choices.
Telc was a villager. If grant had used the dayvig on Telc, basically nobody would have batted an eye or thought it was wolfy of him in the long run. I really believe that wolf grant shoots villa Telc in that precise spot ~always, because it allows him to (1) kill a villager and (2) get away with it clean.
Now, I say "basically nobody," but obviously younguns spoke up and said that if grant shot Telc and Telc flipped villa, then he would think grant was a wolf. This perspective was met -- again, iirc -- with fairly universal derision. Regardless what younguns said, Telc was the safe shot.
Instead, grant not only decides not to kill Telc, but he decides to YOLO a shot -- with no prior discussion -- on younguns, the guy who'd been going after him. By doing this, he put himself in the spotlight for (1) not killing the lead wagon; (2) killing someone who nobody really listed as a good target; (3) killing someone without any prior discussion; and obviously (4) killing someone who then flipped villa. THIS IS NOT A SHOT THAT WOLF GRANT BASICALLY EVER TAKES. It exposed him to pressure, made him the focal point of the thread, and required him to provide explanations for his behavior to be picked apart by everyone. If he was a wolf, he would be taking this shot with the knowledge that NOBODY would be happy with it and that a bunch of people would call him wolfy for it. That is simply not consistent with grant's wolf game as I saw it a couple of weeks ago.
Having said all that, obviously grant has done ~little to nothing in the way of game-solving these last two days. He has real-life explanations, which is fine but obviously shouldn't keep someone alive, but -- and hopefully I'm not being uncharitable to him -- I don't see slanking through two days and making awkward posts as something that is as foreign to grant's villa game as foregoing a safe option to blast someone out of the blue and get the whole thread mad at you would be to his wolf game.
So, yeah. Telc was villa. I would be absolutely gobsmacked if wolf grant doesn't shoot him in that spot. Therefore, grant is >>>>>>rand villa.
Does that clarify my position?
zdye, I'm "butthurt" about it because I wrote a goddamn essay exploring and explaining the logic behind my read, and the counterargument from almost everyone is essentially "tl;dr...he's sounded wolfy"
I disagree with the underlined based on my character and role
i said so far
if your flavor doesn't support why your role is appropriate for your character (AND OBVIOUSLY DON'T SAY ANYTHING THAT EVEN APPROACHES THE LINE OF DISCUSSING STUFF THAT CAN'T BE DISCUSSED), then you'll be the first
zdye, I'm "butthurt" about it because I wrote a goddamn essay exploring and explaining the logic behind my read, and the counterargument from almost everyone is essentially "tl;dr...he's sounded wolfy"
look man, it's a solid argument, i follow it and it looks good
but you haven't even considered reconsidering your read on him even though we're basically at must lynch and everyone else is saying grant might be a wolf
if you stay married to your middle of d1 reads you are super exploitable
look man, it's a solid argument, i follow it and it looks good
but you haven't even considered reconsidering your read on him even though we're basically at must lynch and everyone else is saying grant might be a wolf
if you stay married to your middle of d1 reads you are super exploitable
This
and I don't remember Gad ever doing that as a villager
look man, it's a solid argument, i follow it and it looks good
but you haven't even considered reconsidering your read on him even though we're basically at must lynch and everyone else is saying grant might be a wolf
if you stay married to your middle of d1 reads you are super exploitable
I think I've flipped/evolved/reconsidered my reads on almost everyone in the game in some material way
and nobody needs my permission to lynch grant; it doesn't need to be unanimous
i didn't say one word about all the shots on him yesterday in ITAs
Gad I think we've reached the point in the game where "as a wolf he wouldn't do that" is over and unreliable
great! if you'd like to resolve him, you do not need a signed permission slip from me. there is literally nothing i can do to stop it other than make the case i've made.
great! if you'd like to resolve him, you do not need a signed permission slip from me. there is literally nothing i can do to stop it other than make the case i've made.
look man, it's a solid argument, i follow it and it looks good
but you haven't even considered reconsidering your read on him even though we're basically at must lynch and everyone else is saying grant might be a wolf
if you stay married to your middle of d1 reads you are super exploitable
Yeah agreed, this is basically what I was saying last night.
