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09-14-2010 , 06:42 PM
hey Larry, you're the only one who really thinks I'm a wolf right now.

Luckay, sooted, Titan, Maruchan and Forsy all cleared me. even Elliot did before he died.

my wolf game just isn't that good, deal with it.
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09-14-2010 , 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Larry Legend
ewalsh, it is 2:00 to EOD

vote for someone...
alright seriously

i kind of agree with sun at this point
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09-14-2010 , 06:44 PM
and I've played a crapload with those people, especially Forsy, Luckay and sooted, who were clearing me all the way till they died.

you have never played with me.

come on dude
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09-14-2010 , 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ewalsh420
alright seriously

i kind of agree with sun at this point
with "**** this game"?

yeah me too
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09-14-2010 , 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by G0tGame?
with "**** this game"?

yeah me too
yes

please read my last 50 posts and tell me that its not just me and larry is just being a huge deutsch
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09-14-2010 , 06:48 PM
i also think thats the first time ive ever seriously insulted someone in ww

just fwiw
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09-14-2010 , 06:50 PM
so, mers is one vote away from maj and he hasn't be maj'd yet. Not sure if that means all the wolves are already on him, or if that makes him a wolf.
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09-14-2010 , 06:50 PM
The (Hopefully Not Dying) Case on Why EWalsh is a Wolf

First, let's start off with a not good reason to push ewalsh that people have been mentioning:

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Originally Posted by ewalsh420
by the way wont be here for the large majority of tomorrow and a good amount of the weekend. other than that il be good
His absence is not good evidence, as he has stated but I don't think people have really internalized. It's not about that.

That said, I think he's a wolf close to 80% of the time here. This is why:

Voting Record

It sucks. No need really to quote much of anything. I think ewalsh would prefer if I focused on this because when the village only kills one wolf, it's easy to have a ****ty voting record. But it's really a launching point for why I think strongly the rest of the story paints the picture of ewalsh = wolf.

Softpushing

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Originally Posted by ewalsh420
forgot to say gotgame completely underestimates his wolf game here
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Originally Posted by ewalsh420
i think you and mers are the best wagons today
There are lots more examples but I want to keep the post readable. Basically, I am one of the top two wagons today without ewalsh telling a coherent story about why this is, he's never talked about me as a candidate before, really. I think gotgame is a villager, and that this type of post drums up potential support on villagers in softpushy way. Go back and read ewalsh yourself for more.

Sponging/Questioning

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Originally Posted by ewalsh420
btw il tell you because i figured id wait because someone else would probably want to do something with this

but judging by post 1160 gotgame is cleared
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Originally Posted by ewalsh420
whats the general opinion on slown?
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Originally Posted by ewalsh420
if maru is a villager than what were the conclusions we came up with re: other people?

same thing if hes a wolf
There's a lot more of this too, but basically, ewalsh does a LOT of asking the questions rather than doing the analysis. The slown question is a good one to look at (it's recent): You claim to be completely caught up. How do you not know what the general opinion of slown is at this point? Why don't you talk about conclusions if maru is a villager? Your whole style seems geared to getting other people to talk under the guise of "contributing" and upping your post count while not providing very much in analysis.

Irrelevant BS when trying to up post count:

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Originally Posted by ewalsh420
if youre basing how to play off your own villager game off a wikepedia article youre doing it wrong
This is the type of comment that sounds fine and is going to produce agreeable reactions to people reading casually, except that it didn't address at all what I was saying and again goes into the "contribute without contributing" file.

Suspect Defense:

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Originally Posted by ewalsh420
wat

also i had i think 29 posts on d1 which was when i was actually there and was probably more than most people
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Originally Posted by ewalsh420
what made me a better vote than the day before?
The first quote is in response to me, after I had said I was signing off for the day, and it an incoherant response to my post that ewalsh, maruchan, and elliot were the best three wagons, but I preferred ewalsh, because ewalsh didn't have any tone reads after being accused like the other two did. Ewalsh responds with something irrelevant just to produce the mirage of having responded.

The case of Bopolis

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Originally Posted by ewalsh420
bopolis

mostly because he told me to
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Originally Posted by ewalsh420
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Originally Posted by ewalsh420
i mean i know bopolis probably wont get lynched today and il stop talking about him soon, im just trying to point out the fact he could in fact be a wolf and should be a viable wagon
Basically, I think bopolis is an ok wagon too, which is why I'm surprised that ewalsh has completely backed off of him today (not making any kind of argument for him), when it's imperative that we get the lynch right. This, to me, is inconsistent, and reeks of content simply that I'm the top wagon and he doesn't have to do anything else to get me mislynched. It's not arguing for what you believe because you know it's not necessary. It's wolfy as hell.

Fake Peeks lead to people not getting NKed

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Originally Posted by monikrazy
ewalsh villa
Can't find GotGame's fake peek, but regardless, here are two people who fakepeeked ewalsh and didn't die, in favor of XX, who didn't leave clear peeks at all.

Put all this together, and the odds of ewalsh being a wolf are very good. DUCY?

LYNCH EWALSH TODAY. We'll figure out the rest later.

dangeraw/sun are the other two so either of them is fine as counterwagons. bopolis would be ok. anybody else is a terrible lynch today. For the love of all things holy do not make anyone else the counterwagon.
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09-14-2010 , 06:53 PM
Sorry Mers but I didn't really like your case very much. I'm feeling like a MAJ is in order
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09-14-2010 , 06:58 PM
I think it's an ok case and will definitely me considered. I'm doing a full reread of d1 right now, which should hopefully make my mind up, it's the most active or 2nd most active day for all the people I'm considering right now, so should be good.
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09-14-2010 , 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by slownpainful
Sorry Mers but I didn't really like your case very much. I'm feeling like a MAJ is in order
If I can't convince you ewalsh is a better lynch, ok, but didn't you think dangeraw was?
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09-14-2010 , 07:00 PM
Votes as of post 2011.
night in 1:44
# Player votes for
0 bopolis
2 dangeraw mersenneary
1 ewalsh420
0 G0tGame?
0 Larry Legend mersenneary
3 mersenneary ewalsh420
0 slownpainful dangeraw
0 Sun Tzu dangeraw
0 well named mersenneary
Leaders as of post 2011:
3 - mersenneary
2 - dangeraw
1 - ewalsh420
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09-14-2010 , 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by mersenneary
if people could confirm forsynthio's self-read, would appreciate it. INFORMATION.

People say I am a tricky wolf almost ad nauseum because of a 7 game stretch where I was a wolf 6 times and won 5 of them or something like that. Basically, I came in acting super friendly and outsider-happy, kind of, with lots of and villagery pleasantness, and kept flipping wolf. It was talked about a good bit over the past couple weeks so I wouldn't be surprised if the reason why I wasn't drafted as a wolf was because I've been getting a reasonable amount of attention for it. I also have a good record of a lot of villager games where I've helped the group significantly, see the futurama game and this turbo for recent examples.

My biggest villager tells are arguing forcefully in the early days, posting from from EOD when it seems unlikely I am editing the posts, and making consistent arguments. The games in which I have lost as a wolf come from when I trap myself too much and have to go after someone I already claimed was villagery without a good enough explanation. I try to be a very logical villager and am good at acknowledging perspective etc, it is often +EV to not even bring that kind of stuff up as a wolf, so that's another thing to look for.
what does that mean?
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09-14-2010 , 07:01 PM
Full disclosure: I will be gone from 7:40 until EOD, so I need to know who the counterwagon to me will be by then. With 3 wolves it's going to be very difficult to not mislynch me today, so my vote can't be wasted.
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09-14-2010 , 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by G0tGame?
what does that mean?
Unlikely that I'm reading them over and making corrections to make sure that I'm not giving anything away.
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09-14-2010 , 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by mersenneary

Softpushing
how is me posting who i think the wagons should be and posting something that i think most people would agree with (gotgame opened saying that hes clear because of the gametype - which is not true because gotgame is at least average in this game for wolf games)?
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09-14-2010 , 07:07 PM
I think the timeline of bopolis' early d1 is sort of interesting.

he enters the thread at 3am with a longish posts introducing himself and making three quick, somwhat staged feeling, reads. nothing for a while.
then makes a string of short, paritally fluffy posts around 3:30, then nothing for 30 min. until this:

at :57
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Originally Posted by LuckayLuck
Bopolis on a hunch
and response 4 min. later:
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Originally Posted by bopolis
well if we're going on hunches then,

titan
idk, just seems like he's there the whole time and the pauses are perhaps when he feels like he's done "enough" for now. then when someone mentions his name he's back in the thread immediately.
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09-14-2010 , 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ewalsh420
how is me posting who i think the wagons should be and posting something that i think most people would agree with (gotgame opened saying that hes clear because of the gametype - which is not true because gotgame is at least average in this game for wolf games)?
Why do you think I should be a wagon? Prior to this you've said I was villagery to you. It's softpushing the narrative without adding anything.
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09-14-2010 , 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by G0tGame?
I think it's an ok case and will definitely me considered. I'm doing a full reread of d1 right now, which should hopefully make my mind up, it's the most active or 2nd most active day for all the people I'm considering right now, so should be good.
how is that an ok case?
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09-14-2010 , 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by mersenneary
Why do you think I should be a wagon? Prior to this you've said I was villagery to you. It's softpushing the narrative without adding anything.
2 days ago i said i didnt know what the case is on you although i had noticed one small thingy

il find it if you really want me to but wn had a post against you i thought was good
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09-14-2010 , 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by mersenneary
Sponging/Questioning



Irrelevant BS when trying to up post count:
so alot of my game revolves around questioning people, not adding content, and sponging off people, but i essentially singlehandedly created yesterdays lynch?

also the post count thing is kind of lol
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09-14-2010 , 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu
how is that an ok case?
voting, constant questions, him backing off of bopolis today and fake peek thing isn't bad.
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09-14-2010 , 07:12 PM
Can we lynch mers and get back on track pls.
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09-14-2010 , 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ewalsh420
2 days ago i said i didnt know what the case is on you although i had noticed one small thingy

il find it if you really want me to but wn had a post against you i thought was good
Find where you've said I was a good wagon or had significant suspicious about me, before today. And then just very casually come out and say I'm one of your top suspects today and never discuss bopolis at all, who you were previously arguing for (when no heat was on him, so I don't know if that was going for a mislynch or a bus).
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09-14-2010 , 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by mersenneary
Find where you've said I was a good wagon or had significant suspicious about me, before today. And then just very casually come out and say I'm one of your top suspects today and never discuss bopolis at all, who you were previously arguing for (when no heat was on him, so I don't know if that was going for a mislynch or a bus).
i thought you were a decent wagon yesterday iirc and i think i said so
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