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08-09-2015 , 08:24 PM
Fray, if you're villa then just vote Chjra.

The fact the wolf isn't conceding is making me wonder some tinfoil stuff like ... I dunno, the fake peek by Roman was wrong, killer is a wolf and they killed Roman to SHC killer?

I dunno, crazy thoughts, but putting the possibility out there.

I'll point out that in the one game I played as a wolf, faced with such a prospect, I did not drag the game out and conceded: http://www.werewolfstats.com/pog/ind...gameid=1542795

Why is the wolf making us drag this out?
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08-09-2015 , 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by LordJvK
Well no, because if someone did bus, it could only have been Fraley, you, or Ace.

Ace has been villagery as hell, and pushed grant a lot, here: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=1399

He in fact started that grant wagon.

You are SHC.

Ergo, it must be Fraley. And if you look at this last-minute vote on Viggo, it is the most "buss-y" spot for it.

If you don't waste an ML on me today or tomorrow, if the wolf isn't Fraley, I guess we'll have a sick sick F3 and an almost certain loss since I'll be the one lynched.

Like I said, the game is locked because there isn't any way the next three lynches aren't Fraley / Chjra and me.

It's almost pointless discussing it. As I've said a lot now, if the wolf is you or Ace, wolves win.

I cannot see any scenario at all in which you or Ace are getting lynched this game. Redd is lock clear villa. Allun is lock clear villa.

Game is locked.
This isn't really a post to clear you by saying you're locked into the poe and stating the obvious btw.
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08-09-2015 , 08:26 PM
Killer, I am happy to explain any thought process of mine through out this game. The problem is that I am new and my thought process is different than yours. I miss stuff that more experienced players would see (like the fake roman peek) .. What specifically are you wanting me to tell you about?
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08-09-2015 , 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by fraleyight
Lord, why were you not here during the eod where viggo got lynched?
I was out.
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08-09-2015 , 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by LordJvK
Fray, if you're villa then just vote Chjra.

The fact the wolf isn't conceding is making me wonder some tinfoil stuff like ... I dunno, the fake peek by Roman was wrong, killer is a wolf and they killed Roman to SHC killer?

I dunno, crazy thoughts, but putting the possibility out there.

I'll point out that in the one game I played as a wolf, faced with such a prospect, I did not drag the game out and conceded: http://www.werewolfstats.com/pog/ind...gameid=1542795

Why is the wolf making us drag this out?
Yeah it's totally not that someone would rather try and win as opposed to some ridiculous tinfoil theory. That's cool that you conceded in a game before, I've never heard of a surrender meta.
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08-09-2015 , 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by LordJvK
I was out.
Out where? Did you inform us itt you wouldn't be here for EOD?
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08-09-2015 , 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by fraleyight
Killer, I am happy to explain any thought process of mine through out this game. The problem is that I am new and my thought process is different than yours. I miss stuff that more experienced players would see (like the fake roman peek) .. What specifically are you wanting me to tell you about?
Who do you want lunched and what order?
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08-09-2015 , 08:29 PM
It looks more like a lack of caring then you just being out.. Why would you care about a meaningless eod? It was thought by most that the wagon was going to be ace/killer.. Both of which would be villagers if you are a wolf.
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08-09-2015 , 08:30 PM
Fraley we're at a point where if we can clear one of the uncleared players it would lock the game.
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08-09-2015 , 08:32 PM
The thing I can't get over is why didn't Grant self press on Lord.
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08-09-2015 , 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by killer_kill
Yeah it's totally not that someone would rather try and win as opposed to some ridiculous tinfoil theory. That's cool that you conceded in a game before, I've never heard of a surrender meta.
I don't understand this. If the wolf is Fray or Chjra, the game is COMPLETELY unwinnable for them. Completely. So they should concede.

I am a villa and certain to be one of the three remaining lynches. So if the wolf isn't one of Fray or Chjra, we've lost.

Game is locked. And I'd love to be able to call it right now.

If I was a wolf, I'd concede right now. I am not a wolf and therefore just have to wait until all this resolves.
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08-09-2015 , 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by killer_kill
Who do you want lunched and what order?
I don't care which order really. but lord/chrj or chrj/lord

A lot of this is poe because I do not find their posts wolfy but..

redd and allundra are peeked v

ace has been trying super hard to solve the game and imo pushed the vigg bus hard.. It would have been easier for him to push your wagon if he were a wolf.

viggo was trying to lynch you too hard for you to be a wolf.

this means the wolves have to either be lord or chrja. THey were both also not around during EOD the day viggo got lynched which looks bad because that eod would not have been important to the wolves if both you and ace are villagers.
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08-09-2015 , 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by LordJvK
I don't understand this. If the wolf is Fray or Chjra, the game is COMPLETELY unwinnable for them. Completely. So they should concede.

I am a villa and certain to be one of the three remaining lynches. So if the wolf isn't one of Fray or Chjra, we've lost.

Game is locked. And I'd love to be able to call it right now.

If I was a wolf, I'd concede right now. I am not a wolf and therefore just have to wait until all this resolves.
O ok, so if you were wolf this game you would concede?
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08-09-2015 , 08:38 PM
You shouldn't talk about people conceding as a means to poe a game. I'd never concede if I was in the poe.
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08-09-2015 , 08:40 PM
Correct. But I'm not and therefore can't you see. If you are, you should because you cannot win. If Chjra, he should because he cannot.

If it's Ace or Killer we have three more agonising days of this, the village dies a slow death before eventual defeat.

There are no other outcomes.
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08-09-2015 , 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by LordJvK
Correct. But I'm not and therefore can't you see. If you are, you should because you cannot win. If Chjra, he should because he cannot.

If it's Ace or Killer we have three more agonising days of this, the village dies a slow death before eventual defeat.

There are no other outcomes.
So, if you were a wolf.. You would not be trying to get me and chrja lynched? You would just say "****IT I am the wolf" Like, are you really saying this right now?
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08-09-2015 , 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by killer_kill
You shouldn't talk about people conceding as a means to poe a game. I'd never concede if I was in the poe.
I don't see why not when if the situation was impossible.

I mean, do you want to take a bet on the game not playing out exactly as I've described?

What could new information could possibly change anything at this point? Seer breaks the game. I've said it before.

This game is over.
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08-09-2015 , 08:45 PM
It shouldn't mean anything that Lord is angling to say he's a villager since he conceded in a different game.
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08-09-2015 , 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by fraleyight
So, if you were a wolf.. You would not be trying to get me and chrja lynched? You would just say "****IT I am the wolf" Like, are you really saying this right now?
I would concede, because there is no possibilty of winning the F3 with Ace and Killer in there. None at all. Zero. Same for you. Same for Chjra.

I mean, by all means, give it a go, try if you want. It's futile.

Incidentally, you concede via wolf chat and then the mod just reveals your death in thread and the game ends. This is how I did it before.

However, here since I'm not a wolf and just a villa in an impossible situation, I can do nothing but wait.

Since you're so keen on my IRL movements. Night of Viggo's lynch, I was with my girlfriend and without my phone. When I left I was perfectly happy with Ace being the lynch because he seemed very wolfy to me at the time. Since then, he's been uber-villager.

I am going to go to bed now.
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08-09-2015 , 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by killer_kill
It shouldn't mean anything that Lord is angling to say he's a villager since he conceded in a different game.
Lol.. He is saying that out of the 2 lynches left we get at least one right 100%of the time. This is nonsense. There are several situations where we get both wrong.

If me and lord is lynched and chrj is wolf
if me and chrj are lynched and lord is wolf

if you or ace are the last wolf etc..
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08-09-2015 , 08:51 PM
Fray, no. I'm saying if Ace or Killer are wolf village loses. And if it's you or Chrj village wins.

There are no other outcomes since Ace and Killer aren't getting lynched. Simple as that.

And we have 3 lynches left, not 2.

F7 - Lord / Fray / Chjra NK: Redd
F5 - Lord / Fray / Chrja NK: Allun
F3 - Lord / Fray / Chrja

Do you see how Ace and Killer are never getting lynched?

Do you see how if you or Chjra are the wolf, you are never winning?

Do you see how the game is locked?

Thanks. At this point I've said this about fifteen different ways so I'll just shut up and sleep now.
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08-09-2015 , 08:53 PM
O ok.. Good we will win then. In this case. I do not care who we lynch tonight or who gets lynched. This is just a matter of a 3 day vs 1 day game at this point.
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08-09-2015 , 08:55 PM
Since the game is locked it may be in everyones best interest to lynch me before f3. If I am f3 I may fumble the game and be convinced the wolf is killer or something. Just being honest.
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08-09-2015 , 08:56 PM
If you're villa Fray, since he doesn't look like he's going to concede, we should lynch Chrja tonight. And hope and pray that he flips w.
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08-09-2015 , 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by LordJvK
If you're villa Fray, since he doesn't look like he's going to concede, we should lynch Chrja tonight. And hope and pray that he flips w.
chrja hasnt been in the thread yet today. So he may concede.
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