for one, i feel like a first-time wolf in their first game ever would be much more self-conscious than to deliberately pop in and post three non-substantive posts about how they won't be posting yet (and punctuating the third post, which i didn't quote, with a smiley for chrissake)

tone seemed supremely unruffled and matter of fact

i liked the "kinda sucks" a lot and thought that post managed to concisely convey information in a natural thought process-y way

shrug

obv if she never posts again today or is hella awkward when she does it's not a good look but i had pretty strong villa feels from the opening

alternately it's all rand and i'm clicking buttons

pretty much what he does though


probably the lockest villager in the game aorn

that's all fine but we all know your reads might as well be pulled out of a hat

why me in particular btw?

your pony needs a tuneup

Going to put my thoughts on certain posts as I re-read:

Stuck's entrance was pretty MEH for me. Talked a lot about mechanics that I felt were pretty obvious. Entrances don't mean much though, imo. Just starting on bad side of fence.

as i read along...
Whoops.

Good post, villa lean for Viggo. Stuck is also more null at this point.

Disappointed in muti's play at this point. Don't know if it's wolfy, but I recall him being better than this. Still early game so will see how it develops.

I would like everyone who reads this to go back and look at post 67 by Sun Tzu. It's a pretty short post, but it feels extremely villagery to me. I want to hear other's opinions on it. Sun Tzu my only town read at this point.

Amy's short entrance, for her first game, seemed innocent enough.

Pretty ****post, but seems to come from a villa mindset, as well as his next post.

Good post by CT. Thought his posts were pretty crap up to this point/not helping, but this is a good one.

By post 150 I realize that a couple players, Sun and Viggo iirc, have given Monte a villa lean. I'm not sure why. Nothing he has said up to this point has been particularly great, unless being rude gets you villa read. FU banks if that's the case btw.

Mucks voices that opinion for me on post 156. +points for Mucks. Pissed that I don't have any strong scum at this point.

At post 164, Xkf votes mucks, w/o reasoning. Second post of Xkf's that I've noticed, the first was his entrance, which was the typical, "hey guys i'm happy i rolled villa" Don't care for him at this point.

post 178 by stuck is good, +points for stuck.

Xkf still not making any good posts by post 199.

****, by post 202 I realize that I've made a mistake. Xkf is making short, **** posts as he catches up and reads through the thread. I thought it was pretty obvious on post 202, as viggo had not made any postings between this post and Xkf's last couple posts. Reverse from scum lean to slight villa lean.

MONTE, could you please substantiate why you are confident of Bank's alignment. Thanks dawg.

Don't care for this post by Gad. He is trying way too hard to APPEAR villagery.

BustoRhymes posts have been solid. Haven't seen him play so I don't have any sort of meta to work with.

Reading Xkf posts is frustrating af. I have a villa-lean on him, but I believe all his reads are ass-backwards compared to mine.

Looking back, I find myself agreeing with Mucks/Monte that AiB has been pretty lackluster/wolfy so far. I remember he also played poorly at the beginning of the Futurama game, but got a bit better as the game progressed.

A better post by Gad. Sliding him over to the null column.

Hurray, passed by intro post.

Gad's slight trolliness is pretty annoying. I want him to catch up on the thread and give one of his good analysis posts. Even as wolf, they can be a bit telling lategame.

Xkf finally posting a thought, neat. Again, don't think it's a good/serious read here. I do like that he voted AiB.

Post 306 by Busto, another solid post. More +points.


Mucks:

He said he was going to sleep. Can a guy get more than 5 hours of sleep?

Interesting intro by Ben. I like it. I don't recall anything Evene said from earlier pages, so I will definitely need to revisit.

I don't think the PO should claim unless the role-hunting shot has gone off or the villa is nearly lynched. I still think we need to leave seer cover though. The likelihood of several of us giving a n0 villapeek on a mafia isn't high, so I don't think it would instantly out the seer. I may be wrong, but I WILL be leaving my n0 peek at the bottom of this post.

Was planning on voting AiB at the end of this post until I read this post.

Good progression/neat.

SORRY FOR THE WALL OF TEXT BOYS.

Town: (in order of strength of read)
Monte (n0 peek, suck it)
Bopolis
Amy
BR
Sun
Xkf
Ben

Wolfiest players are Mucks and Viggo, not very strong leans though.

Will be LIVE posting now boys!

Mut can you please explain to me why Mucks is the lockiest villa? I thought AiB's reasons were good.

Well sure, but what does that mean in the larger context of the many other games he has played?

Anyone else with extensive experience playing with Sun, feel free to offer your own thoughts. Nothing is worthless.

He seems pretty defensive at the moment, but IDK, maybe he is just a dick




I agree. Newbs tend to exhibit some fairly consistent tells. However, let us not forget the Syndr0m debacle from the last H&F game. We lock cleared him because of his newbness and he ended up being the wolf vig. #neverforget

you usually have a lengthy analysis of mechanics and although I often disagree with a lot of it, I find that it helps me to work through the implications

you guys better post thoughts about my wall of text, i worked really hard on it. Took a whole hour QQ.

i read what i thought was half of it, realized it was 10% of it, then ended my own life

so bravo if that was the reaction you were seeking

p1 thoughts

Stuck super villagery

Amy >>rand villa

confirmedtroll being simultaneously engaged and troll-y early is >>>rand villa for him in my experience; interested to keep reading and see why he's picked up votes

mutigers slightly >rand v but is a much better wolf than people tend to assume and should not be cleared lightly by anyone

Viggo seems fine, Sun seems fine; fairly low confidence in my ability to read either

mucks/Banks/Evene pinged me to various extents for various reasons:

mucks's #97 about Amy doesn't make a ton of internal sense as i've noted though i thought his flow overall was okay

Evene's posts seemed overly careful

Banks's wolf range involves most of his posts not actually containing substantive game-related reads and his early spate was smack dab in the middle of that

But look at where he is mud slinging it's all aimed at easy targets I don't think villa muck just targets LHF

Hi Weatherguy,

What level do you think Xkf is on with intentionality behind that intro post? His TOAN guide specifically says that villagers tend to intro post with a happy toan, wolves tend to intro poast with disappointment.

very high level

reading Weatherguy's text wall now and this is the post #67 that he alludes to fwiw

i mean, okay

i skimmed that wall of text and have come to the following conclusion: neutral

tehbankertin

I agree with most of this

that worries me a little

i am fairly positive that Weatherguy got consensus cleared early as a wolf in one game for posting long and natural sounding stream of consciousness reads posts btw

can someone remember what game this was? my ww memory is **** anymore

i will say that i am less apt than i would be previously to give viggo a villager lean based upon recent experience, but given that he is phone posting in a strange, far away land and no doubt overwhelmed with the newfound FREEDOM he is experiencing, his contributions thus far have seemed villagery enough

it's a funny joke ha ha and all but i am not actually as woat as you like to pretend

meh, I'll give him a slight wolf lean and a 1-2 day pass