Toganim was The Second Doctor, a villager

Rules for Must Lynch

Each player is only allowed to vote once.
There is no unvoting.
There is no vote changing.

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We are now at must lynch. Once you make a vote, it is locked in for the day.

HiFi has been killed. She was the Fifth Doctor, a villager.

There are now 2 villagers, 1 wolf.
We are now at must lynch. Once you make a vote, it is locked in for the day.

Live Players:
derm
derwipok
Systolic

It is day!

hmpf i really hoped we wouldnt have to do this today

I think it's systolic, if derm was a wolf this would be his first wolf game and he would be playing extremely well for a first wolf game. Systolic on the other hand has more experience as a wolf and I know that he's capable of good wolf games.

Alright, I'm not going to pussyfoot around in this f3 like I did in Zero Tolerance. I almost caused us to lose because I was really nervous, but I'll make sure not to do that here.

Derwi - the same thing could be said for you. I really don't like how you came out the gates this morning attacking me like that. I have thought that you were a villager for a good bit of the game, since we started crossposting like we did. All of your logic has seemed very free flowing and open, especially with your analysis on day 5 (I think it was). I can see you being drafted wolf by any of the three captains.

Derm could very well be a wolf, and has just had some really good coaching this game. The only real problem with that idea is that if he is telling the truth that he has never played a long wolf game, I can't see any basis on which a wolf captain would draft him. I do know that derm is a pretty smart guy though, so if a captain needed a wolf late in the draft, and had played with derm, then he might pick him up as a gamble. I think that would make it Chris's wolf team, because chris has played with derm. More on that in a bit.

I was hoping that neither of you were wolves, because you both have been pretty villagery, but that obviously isn't the case here.

Here are a few preliminary reasons I am NOT a wolf -

1) I have consistently kept up with the thread, providing analysis of just about everything in the game. I have not once been UTR, other than when I was in class.

2) I helped to out two wolves, and if I recall correctly, I had my vote on bsball before UAW even claimed seer, so its not like I was a wolf who used UAW's claim as a way to bus.

3) The only captain I can possibly see drafting me here is Chris, but I think this is chris's village. Wahoo does NOT like me, or the way I play werewolf, so unless he were trying to pull some sicko level on everyone (including me), he would never draft me in his game at ALL in any role. I don't even know BBB, so I don't think he would draft me at all, ESPECIALLY not wolf. Chris might draft me wolf, but there is a shocking parallel between this village lineup, and the lineup in the Euro-Friendly game. I think that this is chris' village, and wahoo's wolf team. Because of this, if you understand any of mine and wahoo's history, you would know that theres virtually no scenario in which he would draft me wolf.

I think that this is the point in which the draft mechanics really matter, and it seems like based on draft mechanics that derwi is the last wolf, but he has played a hell of a game if he is, and I'm certainly not going to lock in my vote yet.

Derm, if you're a wolf, the rest of the team set you up for this scenario really well, its going to be really hard to justify a vote on you, and you will have also struck fear in my heart with regards to your wolf game.

Sorry if this post seems random, but I'm just throwing all of my introductory thoughts about this f3 out there.

Andynan
bogan4life
derm
gder402
globetrotter
Larry Legend
Leonid007
Livedk
McAvoy
Thingyman
Titanrulez
Toganim
UAW710

This is the lineup for the euro-friendly game, modded by chris.

Since chris is the only person I can justifiably see drafting derm, and there are some names from the euro game that have flipped villa in this one, I think derm is a part of chris' village, so therefore we can have chris's wolves. Wahoo would never draft me wolf, I don't know BBB well enough for him to draft me at all, so logic says that this is Wahoo's wolf team, and he drafted derwi.

damn if i really was a wolf this game would gain me so much respect lol.
and regarding your points 1-3, i think all those apply to me too.
only that i left my vote on bsb d3 and you changed to kesh.
im not sure what im gonna do here, atm im gonna vote derwi but regardless of how i vote im not gonna vote early.

This is interesting that mm1 gave derwi a lock villa read based on "tone".

I changed to kesh because of his entire approach that he took to making cases. I can't recall all of the ins and outs of that interaction at the moment, but there was something he said about me that looked like he was trying to force an easy mislynch. I'm sure I will find it, as I'm reading back through the thread right now.

My voting record hasn't been flawless this game, but I don't think any of ours has been. That being said, I have assisted in lynching the wolves so far, but so have you and derwi, so feel free to check through the voting record, but I don't know how much info there is to glean from it.

Don't make a hasty decision, no matter what you do. You should read my Zero Tolerance f3 for a good example of what NOT to do. I was nervous as **** and Nez almost voted for me over Well Named, when I was the villager.

believe me, this no unvote thing is freaking me out.
im not placing any vote unless im sure that im doing the right thing.
id hate to lose a coinflip, have the wolf laugh and snapwin this.

Im going to run to the school for about an hour. I don't have class today, but I do have a meeting with a professor, so once I am done with that, I will be back for the remainder of the day, and we can get this wrapped up.

That's derm...

Actually scratch that, it might be 2 hours, depending on if a ladyfriend of mine wants to eat breakfast with me

Oops. I guess I misread it because of the light green text.

The same thing applies to derm then.

But why would wahoo draft me as a wolf? He wasn't involved in my only ever good wolf game (all talk) and has seen me get lynched as a wolf various times, including homecoming where I played really bad.

I'm ignoring wheel of time since my role was revealed after the draft and none of the captains was involved.

This is one piece of logic I never like by you derwi. I didn't necessarily think it was wolfy, it just seemed shallow

So why am I a villager? I know I can't convince anyone with my own posting, but I am spewed villager by two wolves.
Mm1 wanted to get a wagon going on me d1 and continued his wolf read on me d2 and further. That's basic spew.
Bsball is different, we have already talked about our special ww relationship. Bsball prides himself in reading me right, therefore that's what he'd do as a wolf too since he wants to emulate his villager game. As w/w bsball wouldn't just flat out call me a villager.

It just means that in the vacuum of this game you had been villagery.

What was this all about, derwi?

His peeks obv didn't match his posting which made it unlikely that he was the seer.

No, mm1 voted for you and then quickly moved his vote elsewhere. I just finished reading that part.

Also that "soul belongs to me" comment by bsball doesn't exactly make you look like a villager either, because there are 2 ways to interpret it -

1) Don't lynch derwi, he is my partner

2) Don't lynch derwi, I need him for something because I am a wolf

And what about this?

Anyway I really need to go. This stupid game is going to prevent me from passing my classes if I'm not careful lol