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07-25-2013 , 05:30 PM
I am going to have to get ready to pack up for work soon.

I think kokiri is the most optimal vote today and if he is a villager we are probably going to lose this game/we are going to have to straight up own at must lynch for the next 3 days. I think nicholas would be a good second wagon and is probably the next most likely wolf IMO.

I dont think I'll have much of any time to read anyones posts in isolation before EoD but I think the wagons are fairly definitive now anyways so hopefully I get some time tonight and/or tomorrow afternoon before EoD. Ill make sure to skim EoD from phone/check in to make sure my vote isnt being wasted.

kokiri
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07-25-2013 , 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by bhuber2010
What? I dont disagree at all.

Its unfortunate SIU didnt get any more peaks off because this game would virtually be over.

If leafs is saccing himself to lynch you just to get 1 more mislynch that would straight up be ******ed considering he wouldnt have to push that hard to get you/nich lynched after last nights wagononmics. He could just basically hide and subtly push you/nich which is why I think it looks good for tmleafs + his tone was good this morning (I has to go back and read his posts in isolation too).

You sad that I am working to clear him right now?
A few this point I think if I was a wolf I'd go after some hanging fruit to get to mustlynch, why go the hard way? You do that when u must, if I'm a wolf I keep my mouth shut today and work on an easy lynch, instead I tie 2 woofs together from eod, I'm never bussing 2 other wolves 1lynch away from ml. This is a bus I would never ever do cuz its a - eV play from the start.
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07-25-2013 , 05:31 PM
The odd thing about all this is that no matter what I do it is the wrong thing to do. If I use my notes to MQ, it looks suspicious. If I don't use all the notes I take they say I'm not working hard enough. If I say this, I should have said that. If I say that, I should have said this. DS doesn't defend hard enough, but if I defend myself I'm being too aggressive.

I am a villager, I've never been a wolf. I don't know how wolves talk and I don't know how they think. I don't blame the wolves for pushing me, but I do blame the experienced players who seem unable to discern my role, even though I've been here working the entire time except for the first EOD.
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07-25-2013 , 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by tmleafs1967
A few this point I think if I was a wolf I'd go after some hanging fruit to get to mustlynch, why go the hard way? You do that when u must, if I'm a wolf I keep my mouth shut today and work on an easy lynch, instead I tie 2 woofs together from eod, I'm never bussing 2 other wolves 1lynch away from ml. This is a bus I would never ever do cuz its a - eV play from the start.
I agree but thats before you said anything about. Thats like saying what you did is TWTBAW and then I always second guess myself

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07-25-2013 , 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by tylertwo
The odd thing about all this is that no matter what I do it is the wrong thing to do. If I use my notes to MQ, it looks suspicious. If I don't use all the notes I take they say I'm not working hard enough. If I say this, I should have said that. If I say that, I should have said this. DS doesn't defend hard enough, but if I defend myself I'm being too aggressive.

I am a villager, I've never been a wolf. I don't know how wolves talk and I don't know how they think. I don't blame the wolves for pushing me, but I do blame the experienced players who seem unable to discern my role, even though I've been here working the entire time except for the first EOD.
Its difficult even for experienced players to put together a wolf team when not a single wolf has been lynched yet.

Virtually all I/we have to go off is tone. If you're a villager, just be patient and keep sharing your thoughts as the days go on and eventually you'll clear yourself.

No crazy tin-foils this game though. I will snap lynch you in a heartbeat.
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07-25-2013 , 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by bhuber2010
Its difficult even for experienced players to put together a wolf team when not a single wolf has been lynched yet.

Virtually all I/we have to go off is tone. If you're a villager, just be patient and keep sharing your thoughts as the days go on and eventually you'll clear yourself.

No crazy tin-foils this game though. I will snap lynch you in a heartbeat.
It's a deal and I'm sorry for being mean.

(Oh, you don't want my theory on the mod choosing Bob Graham as one of the names? He's infamous in ATF, you know...)
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07-25-2013 , 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by bhuber2010
I am going to have to get ready to pack up for work soon.

I think kokiri is the most optimal vote today and if he is a villager we are probably going to lose this game/we are going to have to straight up own at must lynch for the next 3 days. I think nicholas would be a good second wagon and is probably the next most likely wolf IMO.

I dont think I'll have much of any time to read anyones posts in isolation before EoD but I think the wagons are fairly definitive now anyways so hopefully I get some time tonight and/or tomorrow afternoon before EoD. Ill make sure to skim EoD from phone/check in to make sure my vote isnt being wasted.

kokiri
i'd be lying if i said i can't understand why people are voting for me - it's good wolfing to find a cause people can latch onto; but we're sleepwalking into mustlynch. Let's reup one more time and find a wolf, UAW/Leafs go go go.

The whole case against me is based on shadows and has just taken on momentum from no substantive base. By contrast, UAW's wagons have miraculously been overtaken two days running.
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07-25-2013 , 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by kokiri
i'd be lying if i said i can't understand why people are voting for me - it's good wolfing to find a cause people can latch onto; but we're sleepwalking into mustlynch. Let's reup one more time and find a wolf, UAW/Leafs go go go.

The whole case against me is based on shadows and has just taken on momentum from no substantive base. By contrast, UAW's wagons have miraculously been overtaken two days running.
Your insistence that leafs is a wolf is the most villagery I think I've seen from you
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07-25-2013 , 05:43 PM
ok, gotta really go now

kokiri,

if you're a villager, you've got about 2 hours to really turn some heads
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07-25-2013 , 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by bhuber2010
I agree but thats before you said anything about. Thats like saying what you did is TWTBAW and then I always second guess myself

I said this to nich earlier before we interacted as well, because he is using math and logic for everything apparently and he then forgets to tie same logic probabilities when discussing how good bussing is today.
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07-25-2013 , 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by kokiri
i'd be lying if i said i can't understand why people are voting for me - it's good wolfing to find a cause people can latch onto; but we're sleepwalking into mustlynch. Let's reup one more time and find a wolf, UAW/Leafs go go go.

The whole case against me is based on shadows and has just taken on momentum from no substantive base. By contrast, UAW's wagons have miraculously been overtaken two days running.
if you are a villager i'm going to resent that

there are reasons why you are getting so many votes today: one of them is that almost everyone seems to have put more energy into solving this game than you
so, you are not in a position where you can berate those who are voting for you
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07-25-2013 , 05:51 PM
Flat out proof is neither of them have turned on each other and jumped on me outright, not even saying good theory but.... Nah they just chose to pile on me with teamwork and hope they can get one or 2 more to join since I seem to be having a hard time with the guys i play with a lot this game.
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07-25-2013 , 05:53 PM
I'll back for roughly 7 till eod
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07-25-2013 , 05:55 PM
i decided that kokiri has to be lynched at some point in this game, so we might as well do it today and completely shut the door to possible eod shenanigans

kokiri
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07-25-2013 , 05:55 PM
i'm not berating anyone, like i say, it's understandable, but today has been pretty much exactly what i was saying yesterday was in the process of happening. From my perspective it's been like a slow motion car crash. And yeah, i could have posted twice as often, but i'd really just be repeating myself.
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07-25-2013 , 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Kukraprout
if you are a villager i'm going to resent that

there are reasons why you are getting so many votes today: one of them is that almost everyone seems to have put more energy into solving this game than you
so, you are not in a position where you can berate those who are voting for you
Lol the vote counter has more post than either of them.... Lol comedy central stuff when saying we're sleepwalking into ml, this game isn't going to get to ml, I may not be around but yeah, a lot of hard work being done right now so thumbs Up . gif to villa today.
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07-25-2013 , 05:56 PM
i dont expect much to happen from now to eod and i need my sleep, so good night everyone!
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07-25-2013 , 05:58 PM
Votes from post 1058 to post 1342
Night in 02:02:50

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VotesLynchVoters
6 kokiri Kukraprout (47), bhuber2010 (39), tylertwo (33), UAW710 (15), luckduck53 (20), tmleafs1967 (61)
2 tmleafs1967 Nicholasp27 (9), kokiri (16)
1 Nicholasp27 ihcjay (36)
  
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07-25-2013 , 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Kukraprout
i decided that kokiri has to be lynched at some point in this game, so we might as well do it today and completely shut the door to possible eod shenanigans

kokiri
hate this post. Lynch me cos you think i'm a wolf, fine, but this is wolfy rhetoric.
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07-25-2013 , 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by tmleafs1967
I said this to nich earlier before we interacted as well, because he is using math and logic for everything apparently and he then forgets to tie same logic probabilities when discussing how good bussing is today.
I never said bussing is bad today

I said wolves can bus optimally now that seer is gone so we don't learn nearly as much from wagons now
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07-25-2013 , 06:29 PM
Votes from post 1058 to post 1345
Night in 01:31:21

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VotesLynchVoters
6 kokiri Kukraprout (47), bhuber2010 (39), tylertwo (33), UAW710 (15), luckduck53 (20), tmleafs1967 (61)
2 tmleafs1967 Nicholasp27 (10), kokiri (17)
1 Nicholasp27 ihcjay (36)
  
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07-25-2013 , 07:03 PM
Votes from post 1058 to post 1346
Night in 00:57:37

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VotesLynchVoters
6 kokiri Kukraprout (47), bhuber2010 (39), tylertwo (33), UAW710 (15), luckduck53 (20), tmleafs1967 (61)
2 tmleafs1967 Nicholasp27 (10), kokiri (17)
1 Nicholasp27 ihcjay (36)
  
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07-25-2013 , 07:12 PM
Lynch counter is owning the thread
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07-25-2013 , 07:16 PM
Kukra I'm wondering about this in your list of me

"i thought the way he hoped on the divided wagon yesterday was akward."

I voted for divided very early in the day after I made a mq of why I didn't like him. What about that was awkward to you or perhaps you are thinking of someone else. Also you agreed with me in a few posts but I'm not giving you a warm fuzzy feeling?

I'll ask this in a way the vote counter will like, What's yer deal man?
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07-25-2013 , 07:18 PM
kokiri, if you're here talk to me. Not sure if it matters too much at this point but if you're villa I'd like to hear your thoughts.
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