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07-14-2014 , 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by well named
he seems fairly villagery to me
he says he's pretty sure you're a wolf

do you think he might be the seer?
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07-14-2014 , 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu
Also, what do you mean by "pretty sure" and how is that possible?

I don't believe you.
Cause I read the first several pages of the town games he played and the first few pages of the mafia game he played (he only showed up around pg 14) and to me his general tone and attitude is more reminiscent of the mafia game than the town game.

I have a tough time making legitimate cases on people because a lot of how I play is instinctual and just picking up on minute details with regards to people's play, especially when I'm familiar with them.

Cory has seen me do this in two separate games now and be right in both cases.
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07-14-2014 , 02:40 PM
he also cares a lot that no one ever syays bad things to tappo, even though no one even hinted about doing anything of the kind
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07-14-2014 , 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu
Why? Is he in danger? Do you think you can lynch him with your 1 vote?

Do it then.
Cause you said you read him well.
I think he's scum, so I want to lynch him cause that's playing towards my win-con
If you agree with me, maybe we can actually get mafia!wellnamed lynched today, because you will probably be a more influential voice than I will be because you have some meta with him and my case isn't good enough for other people to lynch him on.
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07-14-2014 , 02:44 PM
well named is a hyper self-aware player though and probably more mood-oriented than role-oriented or meta-oriented

he had a longer post that seemed relatively villagery for him as well

i'm not comfortable calling him anything at this point, luckily this is a slooooooooow game
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07-14-2014 , 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by IAmRobik
Cause I read the first several pages of the town games he played and the first few pages of the mafia game he played (he only showed up around pg 14) and to me his general tone and attitude is more reminiscent of the mafia game than the town game.

I have a tough time making legitimate cases on people because a lot of how I play is instinctual and just picking up on minute details with regards to people's play, especially when I'm familiar with them.

Cory has seen me do this in two separate games now and be right in both cases.
seen you be right about WN in two cases?

you're comparing 2 games

not even that

you're comparing the beginnings of two games

I'm comparing like 90 games.

You're throwing darts. I'm discerning TRUTH.
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07-14-2014 , 02:48 PM
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07-14-2014 , 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu
he says he's pretty sure you're a wolf

do you think he might be the seer?
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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu
he also cares a lot that no one ever syays bad things to tappo, even though no one even hinted about doing anything of the kind
you never know with these seers these days

and re: tappo I don't mind a little hyperbole. I read it as him trying to establish himself as a leader which seems villagery. I think you also have to allow for the complete lack of meta and the different cultures. I mean I'm not saying he's LACK KLAIRE or anything but he feels to me the same way xhad felt last game, very pure. This is an early read blah blah but I guess I just care more about the feels than dissecting the logic at the moment
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07-14-2014 , 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu
he also cares a lot that no one ever syays bad things to tappo, even though no one even hinted about doing anything of the kind
This is the reason I decided to bring it up when I did. It may not be a hint towards calling tappo scummy, but it says that he doesnt' want to call him town. I want everyone to call Tappo town, because Tappo's town

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Originally Posted by corycurren
i refuse to call tappo villagery

i've been hurt before
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07-14-2014 , 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by IAmRobik
Cause you said you read him well.
I think he's scum, so I want to lynch him cause that's playing towards my win-con
If you agree with me, maybe we can actually get mafia!wellnamed lynched today, because you will probably be a more influential voice than I will be because you have some meta with him and my case isn't good enough for other people to lynch him on.
You can't even explain why you think he's scum.

At this point, I guarantee there's no reason itt to think he is.

So if he ends up being scum, I'm going to be suspicious of you.

This is why it's so much better to have reasons for things.

Not only is it easier for people to trust you, you might actually be able to convince someone of something.

"I'm new here and I don't know any of you and I come from a site where easy things are hard to fake but I have a feeling in my bones that this guy who most people have difficulty reading is a wolf and I don't care if you've played 200 games with him and never get his role wrong, I'm pretty sure I can read him better than you can" doesn't necessarily make me think you're a wolf but it sure as hell doesn't inspire confidence in your abilities.
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07-14-2014 , 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu
tappo, tell this kid how wicked you are
Robik, I'm fairly decent at wolfing.
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07-14-2014 , 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by IAmRobik
This is the reason I decided to bring it up when I did. It may not be a hint towards calling tappo scummy, but it says that he doesnt' want to call him town. I want everyone to call Tappo town, because Tappo's town
Maybe you should read some tappo wolf games.

Tappo seems pretty villagery to me but he's good. That's all cory was saying and he's right.
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07-14-2014 , 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by corycurren
i refuse to call tappo villagery

i've been hurt before
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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu
he also cares a lot that no one ever syays bad things to tappo, even though no one even hinted about doing anything of the kind
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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu
You can't even explain why you think he's scum.

At this point, I guarantee there's no reason itt to think he is.

So if he ends up being scum, I'm going to be suspicious of you.

This is why it's so much better to have reasons for things.

Not only is it easier for people to trust you, you might actually be able to convince someone of something.

"I'm new here and I don't know any of you and I come from a site where easy things are hard to fake but I have a feeling in my bones that this guy who most people have difficulty reading is a wolf and I don't care if you've played 200 games with him and never get his role wrong, I'm pretty sure I can read him better than you can" doesn't necessarily make me think you're a wolf but it sure as hell doesn't inspire confidence in your abilities.
You can **** on me all you want and you can think that these things are so ****ing easy to fake. That's fine. All that matters is post game bragging rights, because I've already admitted that my play style does not make it easy for others to sheep me.

If you don't like or don't respect my reads, feel free to ignore all my posts. I'm not gonna let you railroad me into not giving my reads.
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07-14-2014 , 03:04 PM
silly tinfoily thought:
robik and WN are both wolves and robik is trying to make me defend WN or clear him too early
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07-14-2014 , 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu
silly tinfoily thought:
robik and WN are both wolves and robik is trying to make me defend WN or clear him too early
I want you to call him mafia so we can lynch this **** out of him.
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07-14-2014 , 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by IAmRobik
This is the reason I decided to bring it up when I did. It may not be a hint towards calling tappo scummy, but it says that he doesnt' want to call him town. I want everyone to call Tappo town, because Tappo's town
Sun et al, Robik appears to be peeking me villager. Pressuring him about the read probably isn't helpful to the village.

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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu
Maybe you should read some tappo wolf games.

Tappo seems pretty villagery to me but he's good. That's all cory was saying and he's right.
Robik, I get this attitude a lot from villagers and wolves alike. There's no particular need to jump down anyone's throat for it.
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07-14-2014 , 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by IAmRobik
You can **** on me all you want and you can think that these things are so ****ing easy to fake. That's fine. All that matters is post game bragging rights, because I've already admitted that my play style does not make it easy for others to sheep me.

If you don't like or don't respect my reads, feel free to ignore all my posts. I'm not gonna let you railroad me into not giving my reads.
I'm not trying to railroad you into not giving your reads. I'm encouraging you to put something behind them so they're worth something.

No one is going to follow you or anyone else blindly so if you can't even articulate your own thoughts you're going to be completely impotent and might as well just be railing the game and PMing the mod your sick reads for your postgame bragging rights.

Wow, it's like I'm putting myself in my place. This is kind of neat. I could be saying this to me.
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07-14-2014 , 03:09 PM
The WN debate is more interesting. Concentrate on that one.
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07-14-2014 , 03:11 PM
I like talking about me so I agree
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07-14-2014 , 03:11 PM
Thank you robik.

I like you.
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07-14-2014 , 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu
I'm not trying to railroad you into not giving your reads. I'm encouraging you to put something behind them so they're worth something.

No one is going to follow you or anyone else blindly so if you can't even articulate your own thoughts you're going to be completely impotent and might as well just be railing the game and PMing the mod your sick reads for your postgame bragging rights.

Wow, it's like I'm putting myself in my place. This is kind of neat. I could be saying this to me.
It is ironic, isn't it?
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07-14-2014 , 03:13 PM
robik, let's lynch WN today and if he flips villager lynch you next

you game?

you're "pretty sure" he's a wolf, right?
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07-14-2014 , 03:14 PM
When did this turn into a 4 person conversation? Where the **** did everyone disappear to? Nobody wants to take a stand either way on:
1) WN being a wolf
2) Tappo being the towniest town that's ever towned in townland
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07-14-2014 , 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by well named
I like talking about me so I agree
how villagery/wolfy/role-neutral do you think you are right now?

what should my read on you be?
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07-14-2014 , 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu
robik, let's lynch WN today and if he flips villager lynch you next

you game?

you're "pretty sure" he's a wolf, right?
Totes -- let's do it!

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As long as I'm given the chance to talk people out of lynching me on the offchance that I'm wrong

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cause I'm cop and lynching an uncc'd cop is stupid

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I should probably stop calling it cop. The only other game I played on here was a turbo where I was mafia, and I came out as cop on d2 with a red check on the actual cop before he came out with a red check on me, but I got lynched cause I said that my role pm said I was cop instead of seer
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