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06-07-2016 , 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Lissa2
zork I don't understand why you defend mexi

it was 7:5:5 wolf:you:nl

the "why" is to save banks

pretty simple
yeah but if NL is villaging and mexi is wolfing then it's 6 or half a dozen from his perspective as to who takes the fall for banks. He didn't need to switch off me. For all he knew I was never coming back to vote my counter and so it would have been much better to just leave it on me if he's trying to mislynch somebody.

Unless mexi and NL are w/w? But that can't be but a 1% chance of being true in my mind from my tone reads especially of NL

I think this is just tinfoil unfortunately. I'd love to agree with you but I can't get there with what I see.
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06-07-2016 , 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by BenjaminAO
I feel like today might be meaningless, 20 votes on mexi, although pending info from claims
could be something interesting, though i think if someone got catched and they are already in the imediate lynch order, its better to just vote them and watch them (hopefully) go down today
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06-07-2016 , 05:46 AM
Zork how about Mexi trying to make me a wagon with 3 minutes left? He was desperate for people to get off Banks.
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06-07-2016 , 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Zorkman
yeah but if NL is villaging and mexi is wolfing then it's 6 or half a dozen from his perspective as to who takes the fall for banks. He didn't need to switch off me. For all he knew I was never coming back to vote my counter and so it would have been much better to just leave it on me if he's trying to mislynch somebody.

Unless mexi and NL are w/w? But that can't be but a 1% chance of being true in my mind from my tone reads especially of NL

I think this is just tinfoil unfortunately. I'd love to agree with you but I can't get there with what I see.
No, wtf

MATHEMATICALLY nls wagon had a higher chance of overtaking banks than yours if he moved on time there. He'd have made it 7:6:4

HOW ARE YOU NOT SEEING THIS
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06-07-2016 , 05:48 AM
also he voted after you returned

Jfc I don't get it
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06-07-2016 , 05:48 AM
I was thinking about NAs, and I started to realize why NL was so mad at the vig. There were so many good shots and pretty cear wolves, and then the vig decides to yolo Batm who had done nothing.
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06-07-2016 , 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by chrja
and why with the waiting on voting, i really don't get it. There isn't a single upside in holding back your vote.
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Originally Posted by Lissa2
also your blatantly admitting to not postibg in the several minutes to eod out of not wanting more heat is intensely ridiculous

i can't really decide if it's wolfy thoufh by all logic it should be
I was waiting for a better alternative to my lynch if one had arisen; ergo why I was madly refreshing. I was NOT feeling the banks lynch, but it was the least bad of the three alternatives of me, NL, or banks dying. You will recall I wanted stork dead, so in case a stork cfd developed or some better case in the last 10 minutes or so I wanted to be able to choose that as my counter. I've been burned by severely last-minute votes for my mislynch before and wanted to pick the best wagon to counter that so I waited intentionally and would do it again.

Lissa, you keep intimating I'm wolfy. For now I find it villagery of you. Keep it up, though...
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06-07-2016 , 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by BenjaminAO
I was thinking about NAs, and I started to realize why NL was so mad at the vig. There were so many good shots and pretty cear wolves, and then the vig decides to yolo Batm who had done nothing.
done nothing wolfy

was in his villager meta

voted a LOCK ****ING WOLF
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06-07-2016 , 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Lissa2
No, wtf

MATHEMATICALLY nls wagon had a higher chance of overtaking banks than yours if he moved on time there. He'd have made it 7:6:4

HOW ARE YOU NOT SEEING THIS
hmmmmmm

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Originally Posted by Lissa2
also he voted after you returned

Jfc I don't get it
#lissamakesgoodpoints

but he got off me though - sigh - I'll keep an open mind
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06-07-2016 , 05:56 AM
lol 3 am almost

think im gonna sleep
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06-07-2016 , 05:58 AM
night lissa

(lissa posting now is kinda villagery too)
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06-07-2016 , 05:58 AM
actually it maybe depends what time she shows up later but probably not
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06-07-2016 , 06:09 AM
nah, probably not, its still villagery
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06-07-2016 , 06:16 AM
Anyone there?
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06-07-2016 , 06:17 AM
i am ~sorta here

taking a break gonna come back later
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06-07-2016 , 06:18 AM
ya, whaddup?

or you mean anyone else?
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06-07-2016 , 06:18 AM
Alright, not much to talk about until the others wake up anyway
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06-07-2016 , 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Stork..
ya, whaddup?

or you mean anyone else?
Monte not being apart of the chaos that was last night is interesting to me. I've seen him be very interactive as wolf, but I see him as a player that should give his insight on a situation like that when he's villa.

What do you think about him and his play regarding the events last night
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06-07-2016 , 06:21 AM
i had a mild lean that he was v because he could have just voted me
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06-07-2016 , 06:22 AM
him asking me about the knights banks things is in my mind but i dont really have any feeling about it

i thought his entry was a villagery but slank cover caveats
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06-07-2016 , 06:27 AM
Over/Under on Mexi posting 5 times?

I'm going with over
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06-07-2016 , 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by chrja
there is like a zero chance we aren't lynching mexi today.

we can discuss others. But we are always lynching mexi
Agreed. Mexi had some horrendous posts and votes at weird times. He spews zork and nl villa i believe
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06-07-2016 , 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by mexineil
Feel a bit better about Mark now he's posting actual stuff, don't want to lynch him today.

I'd lynch Lissa or WG
Thi is the start of Mexi's EoD rollercoaster

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Originally Posted by TehBankertin
Villagers
Banks
Stork <this is where I put n0 peek of stork v but I'd never peek him... or would i?
Bop
Gad
Mexi

Less Villagery
Rawrs
Monte
Ace
WG

Leaning wolf
knights
hail <open sheeping

Outted wolves
Jon Paul

Wolves
NL
mucks
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Originally Posted by mucksandgravs
So you're open sheeping a wolf read on hail from your strongest wolf lean on me.

Lol banks

Did you just out yourself brah?
Start of Banks' downfall

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Originally Posted by SirRawrsALot
Just kidding, I'm not shooting Monte

Cause I'm just gonna CFD him

Monte
Start of Rawrs' EoD

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Originally Posted by mexineil
Latest list

villa

hail
viggo
ace
banks

jp
nl
rawrs
bopolis

mark
killer

wolfy

mucks
monte

lissa
wg
zork
List seems fine, bit strange to have no mention of knights the lead wagon, but later says he has no opinion. Bnks/Rawrs/Mexi all in the strong village groups in the last 2 lists.


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Originally Posted by SirRawrsALot
Like Monte?

Let's lynch Monte
Still on that monte crusade, but ok

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Originally Posted by theycallmehail
TehBankertin

The people pushing me as a wolf are mucks... who you have as a wolf... and BenAO.... who you didn't even list.


So who, exactly, are you sheeping for a wolf read on me?
Pressure added to banks

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Originally Posted by SirRawrsALot
Mucks - I've been in the same spot. For example earlier I had Ben/Hail is my wolf list and Ben was pushing Hail.

I didn't exactly love it, but I wasn't just gonna remove a wolf lean because of it. I've taken Ben out of my wolf list for now for other raisins.
OK, rawrs aims to take the heat off, seems logical

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Originally Posted by mucksandgravs
If banks is a wolf, so is rawrs. Please don't forget this when I die
You're alive, but wanted to highlight anyway

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Originally Posted by Weatherguy
Feels like rawrs is trying to start cfds to save someone
Wanted to highlight this as well

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Originally Posted by SirRawrsALot
Dislike this post
This is in regards to the bank heat

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Originally Posted by mexineil
Monte
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Originally Posted by Lissa2
monte
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Originally Posted by No Lynches
monte
This is all within 17 posts despite rawrs still being the only one on monte with multiple other wagons

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Originally Posted by mucksandgravs
banks

Fuggit
Starts the ball rolling more

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Originally Posted by SirRawrsALot
Ok knights.

Banks
This makes banks the lead wagon, resulting in:

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Originally Posted by TehBankertin
What the **** is this?
This is the only direct response to a vote from Banks and seems legitimately shocked by the vote

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Originally Posted by SirRawrsALot
BenAO

like wtf is this post
But it's OK, the vote stays there for literally 3 minutes until a tenuous reason is found to move it off wagon

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Originally Posted by SirRawrsALot
Banks

Ben should still die. like wtf and sayingk ill knights if Banks is v

reads as TMI
Moves it back again, TMI indeed

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Originally Posted by mexineil
Can we actually lynch Benjamin?
Tries to get that Ben wagon rolling in a crosspost

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Originally Posted by mexineil
Lynching banks seems awful, we're basically just taking one guy's read.
Already highlighted this morning, but highlighting again

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Originally Posted by John McTiernan
Votes from post 8 to post 1778
Night in 0:01:56

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VotesLynchVoters
7 TehBankertin theknightsofneeee (101), theycallmehail (62), mucksandgravs (150), No Lynches (112), BenjaminAO (109), Lissa2 (112), SirRawrsALot (116)
4 No Lynches TehBankertin (68), Jon Paul (38), Weatherguy (48), Stork.. (115)
3 Zorkman Ace of Spaids (80), fraleyight (20), bopolis (107)
2 Lissa2 Viggorous (103), Montecore (83)
2 Stork.. TheBrokenATM! (18), Zorkman (43)
2 theknightsofneeee killer_kill (15), MFCMark (18)
1 BenjaminAO mexineil (50)
1 MFCMark chrja (20)
1 Viggorous Duckburg (20)
1 TheBrokenATM! Gadarene (118)
1 not voting confirmedtroll (24)

:00 good :01 bad
Situation with 2 minutes left

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Originally Posted by Gadarene
Zork
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Originally Posted by Lissa2
unvote

i hate everything
Both of these seem bad, why zork 2 mins before EoD when basically everyone thought that wagon was now awful, and unvoting for good during this EoD seems a bad idea.

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Originally Posted by Zorkman
banks
Looks good

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Originally Posted by mexineil
Zork
Same as Gad thoughts above, except now we have 2 people seemingly independently coming to the opinion of this?

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Originally Posted by mexineil
NL
The last minute snipe attempt

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Originally Posted by John McTiernan
Votes from post 8 to post 1806
It is night

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VotesLynchVoters
7 TehBankertin theknightsofneeee (101), theycallmehail (62), mucksandgravs (153), No Lynches (114), SirRawrsALot (119), killer_kill (16), Zorkman (44)
5 Zorkman Ace of Spaids (80), fraleyight (20), bopolis (107), Gadarene (121), mexineil (52)
5 No Lynches TehBankertin (71), Jon Paul (38), Weatherguy (48), Stork.. (117), BenjaminAO (110)
2 Lissa2 Viggorous (103), Montecore (85)
1 Stork.. TheBrokenATM! (18)
1 theknightsofneeee MFCMark (18)
1 MFCMark chrja (20)
1 Viggorous Duckburg (20)
1 unvote Lissa2 (115)
1 not voting confirmedtroll (24)

Final outcome.


My takes from this:

Looks terrible: Mexi, Rawrs
Looks bad: Lissa
Looks wtf?: Gad

Looks good: mucks, hail

Played horrendously EoD: Me


Maybe we were w/w with NL/Banks, explaining the random unvoting, the late votes for zork rather than NL when it ended 7:5:5?
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06-07-2016 , 06:46 AM
I've seen hate on the MQ format in this game and the PR game, but seemed the easiest way to summarise that, is it a major issue?
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06-07-2016 , 06:48 AM
NL isnt scum because of Knights

Rawrs is w.e, could be either right now
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