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06-06-2014 , 09:37 AM
Here's the final vote count from yesterday, in case it matters. I suppose post-counts are more important than votes.

Votes from post 489 to post 815
It is night

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8 bhuber2010 J.D. (4), monstrman (65), lilrascal (18), derm (11), ReddBoiler (18), metsandfinsfan (82), Wilverine (37), tappokone (29)
2 tappokone iversonian (13), Nofear3838 (19)
1 unvote bhuber2010 (20)
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06-06-2014 , 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by iversonian
they killed carl on the basis of possible tappo=w and bhuber=w peaks. now they're seeing why that might have been a bad idea. bhuber wants to die for the guilt of both, instead of pushing the tappo=w peak angle. make sure to lynch tappo tomorrow.
Ivers, at some point you should try to deal with the fact that your interpretation of Carl's posts is incorrect.

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Originally Posted by iversonian
note the awkward way he says "not wolf-wolf", rather than the more natural "wolf not-wolf", even though...



mets is the villager, and tappo is the wolf, as he indicates in other posts besides the most incriminating one...
"Not wolf-wolf" doesn't mean that there has to be a wolf in the pair. It just doesn't. For example, if someone on d1 made the read that Redd and Monstr are not wolf/wolf, he wouldn't now be convinced that Redd is a lock wolf.

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or to rephrase what he wrote: none of us knew on d1 that he is the seer. we can only see that a player (carl) has "fakepeeked" tappo wolf. that makes him slightly likelier than not to actually be a wolf, which we ought to take into consideration.
Do you mean that Mets had fake-peeked me wolf?

It's not coherent to argue that Carl tried to hide his peek and then casually referred to it.

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the key is to look for significant keywords, among them, ldo, "peek". he drops the words "...[tappo] is a peeked wolf..." within his post above, and the rest of his posting is entirely consistent with him having peeked tappo. this was not an accident.
Sentences have meanings. You can't lob off the beginning of a sentence and ignore its context when evaluating its intended meaning. To give you an example, when I earlier wrote, "[H]e wouldn't now be convinced that Redd is a lock wolf," I didn't mean, "Redd is a lock wolf."
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06-06-2014 , 09:50 AM
I was hoping for a Redd kill and thinking it'd be Mets. I guess the wolves don't want to cooperate.
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06-06-2014 , 09:53 AM
Why were u hoping for a redd kill? U don't think I'm good for the village lol?
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06-06-2014 , 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by tappokone
I was hoping for a Redd kill and thinking it'd be Mets. I guess the wolves don't want to cooperate.
It is a leveling game. I knew what you meant when you said it's +ev to consider redd a vil
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06-06-2014 , 10:15 AM
Votes from post 819 to post 830
Night in 34:45:44

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1 Nofear3838 tappokone (4)
8 not voting Wilverine (0), ReddBoiler (3), Nofear3838 (0), metsandfinsfan (3), lilrascal (0), J.D. (0), iversonian (0), derm (0)
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06-06-2014 , 10:21 AM
J.D.
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06-06-2014 , 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by ReddBoiler
Why were u hoping for a redd kill? U don't think I'm good for the village lol?
You were kind of in anti spew yesterday imo
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06-06-2014 , 10:23 AM
Tappo

I'm not voting nofear over you today fwiw

Maybe iversonian
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06-06-2014 , 10:26 AM
Mets I don't smell what u r cooking today


Stop talking in secret speak and just tell me what u think
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06-06-2014 , 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by ReddBoiler
Mets I don't smell what u r cooking today


Stop talking in secret speak and just tell me what u think
If tappo is a vil.they keep you alive and push tappo peek

If tappo is a wolf you could theoretically be one

Regardless I knew you wouldn't be killed
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06-06-2014 , 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by ReddBoiler
Why were u hoping for a redd kill? U don't think I'm good for the village lol?
If you went from a person everyone else thinks is a villager to a confirmed villager, that'd be one less thing for me to worry about.
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06-06-2014 , 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Wilverine
ATTENTION:
bhuber likes to interact with and talk about wolfbros. Not ecessarily that one of them is but do not use this method to rule people out. Thanks
How do you know this?
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06-06-2014 , 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan
Tappo

I'm not voting nofear over you today fwiw

Maybe iversonian
I don't want to go Ivers.

How do you feel about Derm?
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06-06-2014 , 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by tappokone
I don't want to go Ivers.

How do you feel about Derm?
I like his tone but I'd listen to a case
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06-06-2014 , 10:46 AM
Wait night is Saturday not Sunday?
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06-06-2014 , 10:57 AM
I'm playing ice cream game today will be back tomorrow guys


I think JD is the best lynch at this moment but am open to things

I think 2 wolves in

JD
Ivers
Wilv
No fear
tappo

So just need to narrow down 3 villas in that list
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06-06-2014 , 10:58 AM
I'm willing to look at jd analysis again especially eod with bigger

I.still think it's villagery
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06-06-2014 , 11:20 AM
ivers
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06-06-2014 , 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan
I like his tone but I'd listen to a case
I think he could post the way he has as a wolf. There's some content, but nothing too villagery. The way he's posting comes across as quite neutral. Yesterday he checked out of the thread when the lynch was set.

Him and Boober were both building cases on each other on d1, but ended up casting votes for weaker reasons on JD and Bigger, respectively. So we have some antagonistic interaction that doesn't lead anywhere.

When Derm's explaining his vote on JD, he says that JD is just posting to post and isn't wolf-hunting, but that comes after JD goes after Redd, so the description of JD's posting isn't particularly accurate.

I don't like the bit in which Derm coupled me and Boober as pushing him in a way that I never did, and then tries an illogical argument on me when I point that out. Further on that, at one point he says I seemed villagery for game-solveyness on d1, but then he also claims to my reasoning for my vote.
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06-06-2014 , 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan
Wait night is Saturday not Sunday?
We ran one of these with that setup and everyone seemed to like it. Three day weekends do tend to drag on and on.
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06-06-2014 , 11:30 AM
I convinced myself.

derm
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06-06-2014 , 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by tappokone
I think he could post the way he has as a wolf. There's some content, but nothing too villagery. The way he's posting comes across as quite neutral. Yesterday he checked out of the thread when the lynch was set.

Him and Boober were both building cases on each other on d1, but ended up casting votes for weaker reasons on JD and Bigger, respectively. So we have some antagonistic interaction that doesn't lead anywhere.

When Derm's explaining his vote on JD, he says that JD is just posting to post and isn't wolf-hunting, but that comes after JD goes after Redd, so the description of JD's posting isn't particularly accurate.

I don't like the bit in which Derm coupled me and Boober as pushing him in a way that I never did, and then tries an illogical argument on me when I point that out. Further on that, at one point he says I seemed villagery for game-solveyness on d1, but then he also claims to my reasoning for my vote.
Do you really want me to pick that post apart or will you agree that youre basically just tunneling on me?
My vote came after JD was going after Redd, yes. JDs going after Redd was based on "tappo wouldnt be this stupid as a wolf".
Yes, that was his case on him. His p1 case.

And yes, i did say you seem villagery on p1. Which i would do again on every p1 ever. But if thats all you do wrt the guy you vote on day 1 the villageryness fades.

Finally i did mix you and bhuber up which is an obvious mistake that can never happen to anyone ever. Its the most illogical of arguments.

So, tunnel much? But im fine with that. You wanna thunderdome this ****? Lets roll.

tappokone
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06-06-2014 , 12:17 PM
Not really happy with this NK. was one of the few really clear players i my eyes

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How do you know this?
played a bunch of games in a row with him and it was a trend. had a lot of w/w talk and analysis
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I convinced myself.

derm
not a good vote

Also this series of events looks great for me objectively. get with the program
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06-06-2014 , 12:18 PM
nofear is my vote for now but im gonna reread now
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