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06-21-2017 , 09:34 AM
I still watch, maybe one or two times a week. it is interesting the differences between forums and video/live. even the differences between other forums, though i underestimated the differences between ww and mafia.

@ChrisV appreciate the tips. any other tips welcome
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06-21-2017 , 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisV
Yeah you were very classically wolfy as it's understood here. It's hard to tell the difference between that and nooby sometimes, so I wasn't sure for a while.

Briefly, the theory of werewolf here is that the hardest thing for a wolf to do is post naturally and fluidly and display a thought process and progression of thought that appears genuine. Wolfy is anything that denies us a look into your thought process, like for instance just asking a bunch of random questions:



Because this is a poker/gambling forum, there's a decreased emphasis on who voted for who, who wanted who dead, etc. There's an understanding that ultimately it's possible for wolves to balance their play such that it's not possible to find them like that. Instead we attempt to make wolves reproduce a style of posting that is difficult to fake. Donny bussed you, but that wouldn't have helped him in an endgame. What enabled him to almost win was the rest of his posting.
I can certainly see why you thought I was a wolf then
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06-21-2017 , 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by NeedMoreManasi
Considering a wolf wincon BASICALLY EVERYWHERE is parity with the village unless otherwise stated...
Village still had a dayvig

Parity wasn't irrevocable
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06-21-2017 , 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisV
I've never actually done it, but I've given serious thought to dropping a fake villager peek D1 as seer. Worst case, they're a villager and you get hunted. Best case, they're a wolf and you get left alone the whole game.

Usually I just leave no clear peeks D1 as either villager or seer though.
I've left a wolf peek as a villa in a turbo once

Didn't go well
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06-21-2017 , 09:43 AM
also forgot to thank the mod. well run and nice setup
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06-21-2017 , 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by iraisetoomuch
I'll also happily cfd Chris, but given the Chris come in, and his comments on NGL, I don't think that NGL is a wolf.

So I'm voting the next best option. [NB: By which he means Donny]
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Originally Posted by BenjaminAO
Notgonnalie

Raise just told me that NGL has a better chance at flipping wolf
On reread I really, REALLY did not like this. Ben had defended NGL in a few posts and had been on Donny's case for a while. irtm was his main wolf suspect. He didn't appear to have any reason for switching other than "irtm said NGL will flip villager", which like.... wolves frequently accurately forecast that a lynch will be a villager, they do after all have perfect information. To be honest, I still don't really buy that Ben switched because of irtm, in fact he said as much himself later (my emphasis):

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Originally Posted by BenjaminAO
So you [Donny] are saying the wagons were W/V, why in the ****ing hell would I bus NGL and kill him day one? I had all the right in the world to stay on you because I have reason after reason to vote you. I used MY READS and swapped last second to kill NGL.
This made reading his thought process super difficult, since it's fake any way you slice it. After reading this I wanted to kill Ben, but then there were mech reasons why the wolf was Donny.
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06-21-2017 , 09:51 AM
Ben has his own special brand of tunneling that is hard to parse.
It always seems so wolfy because it seems like it isn't really based on anything.

I love that he wanted me dead even though he was pretty sure I'd flip villager just to make his life easier instead of, you know, trying to read and find someone else to tunnel.
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06-21-2017 , 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by ihcjay
I can certainly see why you thought I was a wolf then
Unfortunately you've reached a stage in your werewoof career where you kind of post as a character instead of as yourself, this makes you hard to read.
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06-21-2017 , 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by iraisetoomuch
Ben has his own special brand of tunneling that is hard to parse.
It always seems so wolfy because it seems like it isn't really based on anything.

I love that he wanted me dead even though he was pretty sure I'd flip villager just to make his life easier instead of, you know, trying to read and find someone else to tunnel.
I can cope with tunneling, but switching from Donny probably wolf, NGL null to villager straight to voting NGL over Donny was hard to process. If it was because you were LOCK WOLF to him then.... well I still don't like that, but he later claimed he switched due to his own reads, so it wasn't that either.
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06-21-2017 , 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by ihcjay
I've left a wolf peek as a villa in a turbo once

Didn't go well
And yeah, FPS like this is in theory part of a well rounded strategy but in practice it's a bit more dubious. In this game xander literally fakepeeked someone then helped lynch them and then got seer hunted, as long as the tinfoil is that real I don't have to include bluffs in my seering range.
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06-21-2017 , 10:01 AM
Votes from post 1775 to post 1860
Night in 9:59:55

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1 BenjaminAO housenuts (16)
2 not voting BenjaminAO (0), Donat3llo (13)
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06-21-2017 , 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by NeedMoreManasi
Considering a wolf wincon BASICALLY EVERYWHERE is parity with the village unless otherwise stated...
actually i think when parity is reached and there is no mechanical way for wolves to lose or whatever it is is a fairly common wincon

ofc if its stated as plain parity, its just parity
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06-21-2017 , 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Ace of Spaids
Votes from post 1775 to post 1860
Night in 9:59:55

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1 BenjaminAO housenuts (16)
2 not voting BenjaminAO (0), Donat3llo (13)
AceofAIDS
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06-21-2017 , 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisV
Unfortunately you've reached a stage in your werewoof career where you kind of post as a character instead of as yourself, this makes you hard to read.
Or maybe you just suck at reading me
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06-21-2017 , 10:11 AM
well done village
hard luck wolves
thanks a lot mods

was a lot of fun
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06-21-2017 , 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by xander biscuits
well done village
hard luck wolves
thanks a lot mods

was a lot of fun
ily
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06-21-2017 , 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by xander biscuits
well done village
hard luck wolves
thanks a lot mods

was a lot of fun
Great job xander.
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06-21-2017 , 10:33 AM
GOAT villager award goes to housenuts
GOAT wolf award goes to donat3llo
GOAT mod award goes to Ace of Spaids

everyone was fun to play with, but some person should have posted more
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06-21-2017 , 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by ihcjay
Or maybe you just suck at reading me
If so, definitely didn't seem like I was alone
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06-21-2017 , 10:43 AM
You posted really well imo xander, keep it up. At no point was I worried you were a wolf, which is a first when playing with you
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06-21-2017 , 10:50 AM
Curious how my game would've been if I was able to be more active Fri-sun. Prob am too seer'ish and get picked off
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06-21-2017 , 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by housenuts
Curious how my game would've been if I was able to be more active Fri-sun. Prob am too seer'ish and get picked off
Always best to be slightly wolfy as seer. Gotta ride dat line.
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06-21-2017 , 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisV
If so, definitely didn't seem like I was alone
Well

You got your tunnel on early D1 and never let up

I was expecting a 1 game day weekend (where I could've posted at night) or would've pushed for a today start. Was out of town all weekend and was either play werewolf or enjoy myself at an amusement park with my family.
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06-21-2017 , 11:05 AM
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06-21-2017 , 11:06 AM
Ace still owes me 1 1/2 games of 1 day WW
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