A vanilla villager could volunteer to be peeked, then wolves would have to choose between killing a peeked vanilla or going for a PR. Is that crazy?

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if we make the wolves kill someone who they wouldn't otherwise have been inclined to kill, and that person is a good wolf who we wouldn't otherwise have been inclined to clear, that's a huge win for us

I would argue DWetz doesnt fit in to that category but tappo almost certainly does

I pretty clearly just picked a group from the amount that people have posted in thread. You can adjust the parameters but the idea is the same.

How are you still alive ?

so just to be clear you're preferring a middle of the pack not strong player? so someone who would probably be a ****ty wolf and a ****ty villager?

this may be too fancy imo

no

then the wolves can ignore this vanilla villager for 3 days while they PR hunt

gtfo

so who currently qualifies as middling player who is a good wolf and useless villager? would love to see a list.

Why wouldn't I be?

which of these people do you see as being sufficiently engaged and active for the rest of their time alive if they're peeked villa? muti laid serious slank cover, a bunch of the others can't necessarily be relied on for >rand leadership and captaincy

i really think tappo is a good choice here

wow at the last GoT

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probably somewhat better as a wolf overall; my village game d1 is somewhere between mediocre and AIDS, I think I'm excellent from about late d2 onwards when there's enough actual data to look at

not really fair to say you haven't been in a game where I've tried; I always try, it's just a matter of how much time I actually have to post and read

umm, sure, choose your own adventure

they're less rules, and more guidelines, like the pirates code

ok, I'm still not convinced on viggo, and so here's my read on this

he comes in the thread, and is coming across as objectively villagery. he's making reads that I agree with, and that seem to be reasonably consensus. he's interacting with people and responding quite well to the questions and comments he's receiving.

I just don't see a wolf here.

also, coordi seems convinced of viggo being a wolf based on meta... and yet says that he hasn't seen viggo play a long game as a wolf. at the very least that should discount any meta expectations of how someone is going to play.

overall, I just see a villager here -- any reason to think otherwise is based on meta that I'm not aware of

unvote

reads seem reasonable

this is weird, as throwing out reads seems inherently villagery to me -- especially in this way (getting caught up on the thread)

meta read -- however, this game is fundamentally different than other ones. so like, yeah, consider him to be a wolf for playing differently, but also consider that this is a different game format.

seems like a reasonable explanation as to why he's coming across differently

seems like a reasonable read

he's getting heat that doesn't seem to make sense, and he explains himself well

apparently he has mislynch equity for those "meta" reasons

storm being wolf looks quite likely to me

the admission that coordi hasn't seen viggo play in a game like this

pretty good response

klingbard is a wolf still

and not only because he is voting me

not a useless villager

i don't think there are that many great wolves who are useless villagers anyway, almost by definition (though that may be a theory point we can get into some other time)

i'd go for a great wolf who is a good-to-great villager, but not one of the good-to-great villagers who we can typically rely on wolf teams to have on their shortlist of early-stage nks

Ahem. But I'd say peeking me would be a waste as I'm pretty sure of clearing myself if I haven't already.

Go for it if there's no better option though.

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Tappo
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Phial - for 2nd wagon info??

I'm going to rand.org it with some weights toward certain players. If you guys object to any of these immensely LMK asap

I'll come back with my peek when the POR is over unless you guys think its worth outing before 8pm depending on village/wolf

need to go meet my gf and will likely be on phone for the rest of the day, so let me put together a reads list right now

I personally think tappo is an obvious villager and a bad peek.

agree; you're a good choice too (though probably not quite the threat as a wolf that tappo is)