Alright, going to bed. Hopefully, I'll be able to contribute tomorrow but I'll be AFK EOD for sure

I'm not so sure. Wish I'd peeked you last night.

You don't seem like your typical, analytical self, though.

Do you really think I'm >rand wolf?

We can probs leave crossnerd alone for a bit

not sure what to make of tweedys comment if anything

This was to noah. If there was any sliver of doubt it should be gone now. I can clarify more if required.

Sorry for newbish question, can you clarify what SPK candidate means? I don't see as much of this "If I'm seer, x is a villager" stuff in the SE games

SPK = Strong Player Kill

Meaning they just killed someone that is good at ww, without trying to power role hunt

I find it really wolfy when he says he didn't know I was voting wahoo when he said he was going to vote me for voting wahoo.

This was in response to Gadarene. Minor villa points as he's reinforcing it being correct while also doing it in a somewhat dismissive manner. It's as if he is saying "well yeah, but when isnt that true", but he's not really aiming for an indepth discussion about it ya know?

Thats obv the thinnest of anything I've said. Thiiiink it makes sense tho

And we know Aksdal is not a seer, right? So just explain a bit more to me what it means when a vanilla "peeks" someone? Just misdirection?

What? Out of all the things you could have said, this one really surprises me.

Actually, I never know why you find me wolfy.

You are quite capable of tunnelling on me as a villager (remember the Noah game) (and me on you, to be fair). You seem sort villa-ish, but I wouldn't say I'm convinced yet. Maybe when you get off your phone.

Yeah, what nofear said.


Essential breakdown at level 0 can be as follows for the whole situation:

- The seer wants his peeks to be clear upon reread once he is dead, so he will say "If im the seer, X is Y" to tell the thread what his peek was last night.

- The wolves main goal in some games (vanilla mostly, less so but still relevant in Vanilla+ like this, and even more skewed in mishmashes) is to kill the seer quickly so that they can map out their win route

- In order to enable the seer to be clear upon reread, but to make it where the wolves don't instantly know who is the seer, villagers will often leave fake seer cover with "If im the seer, X is Y". Of course they dont know this is accurate, but they aren't the seer so it wont matter.

- The wolves are trying to kill the seer, but now have 8 people saying "if im the seer, x is y". They take all the correct ones and pick one. If he's not seer, we can still give credit to X being Y because the wolves THOUGH he could be seer


Levels get on top of all of that, but thats the gist






In some instances, the wolves don't even really care and just try to kill someone vocal, who will solve the game quickly if left alive. In these instances it's less accurate to assume the wolves thought he was the seer, since they have an alternative potential reason for killing him.


Again, levels build upon it. That's the gist

Between this + Aksdal deciding he's villagin, I'm going to move mcavoy into my light blue

Ok, ty, I assumed all that was basically the case, just wanted to be clear on it.

So far I've got:

- Noah + villa points
- Cross + villa points
- Tweedy ? points
- Gad slight + villa points
- McAvoy + villa points




Now for eod

clearing mcavoy right now is a large mistake imo

Wanna do some #work?

The idea is that the wolves want to kill the seer. If someone leaves a 'peek' and it's correct, then that person could be the seer. If the 'peek' is incorrect, they are almost certainly not the seer. So Aksdal's peek was probably correct.

The problem in this case is that wolves might want to kill Aksdal even if he isn't the seer, because he is a very good player. So we can't be sure his fakepeek is right.

Most likely to me is that the wolves killed someone who is both a strong player, and might be the seer. So I think it's likely the peek was correct. But if Iversonian is super wolfy and spewed wolf 6 different ways, then I'd reconsider.

Didn't clear, just moving higher onto my list. Why are you weary of him?

Telcontar didn't do much yesterday, but he did sort of soft defend Wahoo and then was one of the sort of final nail in the coffin votes on Tbob, deciding Donk wasn't a good lynch. #notagoodlook, imo

I liked a B]Donk[/B] lynch yesterday and I still like it today. I'm going to bed, gn village.

I think I can trust you more after the whole Wahoo thing yesterday. You going to be around for a little bit?

why do you think he is wolfy?

Gn vagos. I like the work this morning/night

Bah, Donk

Not really. I'm trying not to do large MQs. Every time I do, I either get told that I'm not saying anything and therefore its wolfy or that I would never come to the conclusions I did as a villager

Either way, the end result is me getting heat and vig'd/lynched.

So I've decided to just try and interact as much as possible and go from there

i'm just giving the respect i feel he deserve

it's been a while and I forget what to expect from him, but I'm certainly not going to call him and villager for a while if ever