gad if we lose, you're as responsible if not more responsible for the loss than everyone else

I just want you to know ahead of time

there's no reason to tell villagers they shouldn't be involved and trying to solve the game. Saying we should all just do what one or two cleared villagers want gives wolves too much room to just slide along

everyone gets a vote for a reason

also: weary? or wary? :P

I don't think evene's EOD is super villagery but I see the arguments.

How bout this....

bowens/slighted/vyk

for a wolf team?

They hardly interact with each other but when they do they are constantly defending each other as far as I can tell. I think they are worth a re-read considering they could be teammates.

Either way I still want to lynch bowens first

Gad, remind me what posts you thought of evene's were villagery. I'd like to discuss

you must be joking

Nah, that wolf team doesn't make sense now that I read some interactions

in Steve we trust

gad's heart is in the right place, unfortunately he's just wrong here

Ok, here's a good idea. People should provide their 3-person wolf teams. I will do work and try and figure this **** out. Obv people have their own votes and what-not but I want to figure this out and will do the work. So who's your wolf team?

oh my bad br0

I actually meant to say "warehouse"

wolves:
evene
bowens

lost wolf:
slighted

Can we please lynch bowens

bowens/slighted and iversonian for hail mary lost wolf pick?

really depends on what bowens' role is, cause if he's a wolf I think evene/supine are less likely and if he's a villager then they are definitely on the table. But he's my most likely wolf right now so I'm basing the group off of that

evene, when you get here, do the magic thing with slighted games if you please

him + dryice handle

bowens

i like wn's case on him. but more than anything, he needs to be wagoned at some point to see how he responds.

is nobody pursuing the supine avenue anymore?

evene, why did you switch to supine at the end? did you really think you could get a cfd going in the last minute? it seemed like fake believaments of mac's claim, like, omg! if mac's not a wolf and i'm not a wolf, then we need a 3rd wagon.

Don't think evene/bowens is a wolf team. Posts as to why to follow

I'll be back in civilization soon but the mq that Steve did was totally disingenuous.

I clearly posted that I was being sarcastic about slighted's eight posts being villagery.

Cherrypick more.

ok, rant time. sort of. i was about orange on the BH meter last night. barely yellow today. but here goes.

steve:
snide comments like this are not necessary. i even mentioned i'd miss most of sunday--after being on the thread till 5am questioning evene. it ****ing sucks how some guys can just be mechanically clear and be dicks to whomever they want and expect them to jump at attention. a weakness in my villa game is "respecting" mechanically clear villas too much and not just, how shall we say, speaking truth to power... which is coming below.

(vyk actually does the same thing, but when he does it it's almost endearing)

how's that been working so far? how bout we try a different strategy, like let's vote with the people who are solving this game. i was gonna say last night that i would rather vote with bsball than the cleards since he's more likely to bus a wolf if he is one than for our esteemed village leaders to find the real wolves. but the same comment is probably applicable to wn as well. let's hope he keeps putting in good work.

a note about mac. i had mixed feelings at eod. i thought he was villagery, and as i kept rereading stuff, that read was reinforced. but i hated to say so (yeah yeah, take it to post game), so i just made perfunctory remarks indicating my villa lean instead of pushing to save him. i can't say i was disappointed to see him lynched (you know why). he could have also been the LW, and i was concerned about how our meta could be manipulated. the upshot is, i was glad that he was lynched but also glad it wasn't by my hand. so i guess it's kinda hypocritical to criticize nofear & steve too much. but srsly though, despite his claimed efforts to be wolfy, wasn't it so obvious that he was a villager?

as for mechanical strategy, i made a note a few days ago about how if the wolves whiff a few times, we can get a lock win. it was a pretty optimistic scenario at the time, but here we are. (i'm almost certain the wolves are trying to bink the angel, btw, which i think is pretty dumb, but keep at it, wolves!). here's what i think should happen. if ever we mislynch and arrive at must lynch, the angel must claim as soon as the thread opens. it's super ballsy for a wolf to do that, he'd rather wait until he's wagoned to claim angel and then begin the thunderdome with his counterclaimant. whoever claims first will have way more credibility. and then we can just POE from the vanillas.

about LW hunting. since we have 3 PRs and 1 seer peeked villa (assuming nofear isn't a pr), the whole LW hunt thing may be moot in a couple days. i was getting mildly tilted having to respond to all those q's LW hunting me, and i didn't even get a chance to catch up completely before eod. all those who are not the LW need to cut this **** out. you notice how i'm not LW hunting even though all you could be the LW as well because it's a ******ed village strategy and a distraction at this point. if i get lynched this game, you're going to get mercilessly trolled by every villager, fyi.

also, this means i'm going to disregard nofear's argument on slighted for now, as it hinges entirely on him being the LW, as someone already mentioned.

I don't think that these posts read as w/w to me but please feel free to make your own decision

vyk. this post doesn't make sense. the first sentence says "wn is playing well. i'm surprised he hasn't been nk'd (because of this)". the second says "they wolves ONLY RECENTLY got around to killing bsball (implying he's also a strong villager) so they're incompetent", but then why would you think he would be a mislynch, then?

bowens, supine, evene

EOD d2

2 good votes, right?

So, what's really weird about this is that he changes votes for no reason. I mean complaining about VMF not liking the vote is not a reason to change votes. That is wolfy

These are also both wolfy, but I think with bowens especially, and there are some other posts I didn't quote, he's mad that people keep calling the wagon he's voting stinky because he's on it. But a villager should be voting someone because they want that person lynched, so someone disagreeing shouldn't be a reason to switch. It just reads like he realized he shouldn't vote the wolf vig but had no reason to really switch

It's very similar to how he reacts to bsball's pressure yesterday and switched back to mcavoy

Here are some interactions with a known wolf and bowens, what do we think about the following?

I quoted that yesterday

bsball and wn thought it was faked iirc