Out of fnord and insanity and myself which seems to be the consensus list i think Insanity is most likely.
Fnord has seemed fairly Villagery but i haven't really looked at him much so whatever. But insanity has been slanking hard. Master Legend and Gad are all suspicious to me, especially Gad who i feel could be a PR wolf who has got in a position to go deep.
And my thoughts on Well Named being wolfy have been said many times, and him not posting anything i recall all day has increased that read slightly.

So i suppose if we have to lynch of "the list" i will go with Insanity

dont know why you think someone has to be an "old timer" to read digger

he's been active over the last year

HEY FNORD, THIS POST IS A MEDIOCRE CASE AGAINST YOU

I have a note here about you and your interactions with VMF. I need your thoughts, and I welcome third party commentary as well.

Here's your read on VMF from VERY early in the game:

I totally agree with the thought BEHIND this post. I note that this is more-or-less how my read on him works. You know this because I articulated that read here (GOATish explanation btw):

What's weird is how he handled each of us, and how we handled him.

Here's how he responded to you when you made that read:

This is pretty weirdly friendly and dismissive, and cooperative. It doesn't feel like he's worried about you at all. You also never responded to this post, which to be clear is not a good post and sort of demanded a response if you were prepared to go at him about being NOT HAM (that post was NOT HAM).

Meanwhile, here's what he had to say to me after I went at him for being NOT HAM (he was never HAM):

So note that he's down to engage with villagers about his reads / prerogative.

So I thought this was weird.

Anyway, here's where the CASE really starts:

I can't find you ever actually going at him for being NOT HAM, even though he was certifiably NOT HAM to the point that I became convinced that I should just pop him in the dome. This concerns me deeply; you should have been after him like I was.

Here's your EOD1 read on him:

Then you suggested a CFD on him but didn't vote him. Instead you "reread" Hax and "didn't find much there," and voted him, while also defending cjk.

Then on day 2 you just completely failed to pressure him or anything. It looks for all he world like you just forgot that your read on him was dependent on him being NOT HAM. And, as noted, he was NOT HAM.

Talk about this. Other people too.

Did you read my posts this weekend? I'm trying to solve the game. I asked Hoya for one name to ride his heater in ITAs, he gave me killer. Right before I took the shot, he said cjk is okay too. I shot at the wolf. When the wagons were 8-8 or whatever, I voted the PR wolf.

One more little thing that I *think* I would never do as wolf is come up with that tinhat about cjk's slip about peeking Leo being a wolf plan. I would know it's never gonna get Leo killed. I was just putting it out there in case I died and he went deep and won as wolf, which is almost what happened in Anniversary.

I'm glad he's clear.

Now why don't you tell me what happened to you at eod2?

mucks/master prlly has a wolf in it

dont like to give points for shooting near-consensus wolves but i do think there is something to be said for shooting first, so points go to fnord and master here.

And also there's a lot of soft pushing of now-dead villagers interspersed in there when it seems to me that you should have, on day 2, had a pretty STRONG and MANLY read that VMF was probably a wolf.

Also, I was pretty forceful about killer over chuck yesterday, even though I thought they were both wolves. People should see that as villagery without me having to point it out.

Yes, but I don't remember him ever being a good wolf over the last year

Was wondering if his glory days were different

In terms of capability

I demand that legend and leo read my posts about fnord and say things about them.

I also demand that disko read them and say things about them.

White knighting legend

first paragraph is whatever, second paragraph is good stuff. tbh i havent really been paying attention to you this game and i think this is the first time we've interacted. i am just sort of weirded out by the fact that ive noticed villagery/wolfy stuff from just about eveyrone else other than you. and your play style usually sticks out to me.

what night was EoD2? iirc i was pushing VMF, tried to CFD, nobody listened and i left to eat dinner?

you're talking to the wrong person. fnord was going to be my YOLO today. i thought shark had good posts re fnord earlier today too.

I had that same process, but found him going at Vader after they'd both dropped mason code, so that's a good sign for him

almost seems too good that fnord voted 3 wolves d1 ;p

Player	Cause of Death	Time of Death	Role
ZomgHax	Lynch	Day 1	Vanilla Villager
Top Tier Tom	Night Kill	Night 1	Vanilla Villager
Wilverine	ITA (CPHoya)	Day 2	Vanilla Wolf
TehVader	ITA (well named)	Day 2	Wolf Vote Mover
Happy_Fish	ITA (Gadarene, semi-consensus)	Day 2	Vanilla Villager
biggerboat	ITA (VMF, complete consensus)	Day 2	Vanilla Wolf
SuqAta8	ITA (Telcontar, semi-consensus)	Day 2	Vanilla Villager
confirmedtroll	ITA (CDL, not consensus, was told not to, CDLOL, etc.)	Day 2	Village Roleblocker
cjkalt	Lynch	Day 2	Wolf Seer (lol)
pry	Wounds	Night 2	Vanilla Villager
necro	Night Kill	Night 2	Village Healer
VarianceMinefield	Vig (CPHoya)	Night 2	Vanilla Wolf
killer_kill	Lynch	Day 3	Vanilla Villager
lilrascal	Vig (CPHoya)	Night 3	Vanilla Villager
chuckleslovakian	Vig (Grant)	Night 3	VIllage Poisoner
Telcontar	Night Kill	Night 3	Odd Night Seer
mexineil	Night Kill	Night 3	Vanilla Villager
grant2	Wounds	Night 3	JOAT
metsandfinsfan	Wounds	Night 3	Vanilla Villager
Bloobird	Opening a door.	Day 4	Vanilla Villager (?)
TheBrokenATM!	Failing to not fall off a cliff.	Day 4	Vanilla Villager

CHARTZ

We ****ing suck at WW bros, that chart is terrible.

i was skimming his posts from day 1

i agree with the points you made in your analysis

maybe i'm biased on him because he was the only one who realized how obvious it was that cj spewed me villager

but i guess it would be more obvious to a wolf than a villager

also just want to get it out now so i look somewhat less clueless in DVC:

everything about gadarene has been skeeving me out over the last couple of days. i dont know why and i cant explain it, but i feel it in my bones.

It took a long time for me to win as a wolf - maybe 7 games.

I think I have won 3 for 3 or 4 for 4 in my latest wolf games.

One was a multi-player game - game of thrones outted myself to swing in ITAs and change the mindset that villa = good
One was with insanity and domer - lived to the end of game

Another one I forget was this year.


To be fair - I think this is still within my wolf range but I doubt many others would agree. For all I know they might be right and I might be wrong.

No I didn't. I had him on my wolf list d1, then d2 wilv flipped wolf (and he had voted him), and he shot bigger when it was not clear anyone else would be around to shoot bigger. Also he was more belligerent d2. I actually thought he was pretty clear from his anti bussing meta when he piled on cj at a critical juncture and cj flipped wolf seer.

I'm not leaving the house or anything, I just got family stuff. I am sneaking back to the computer when I can

disko that post reeks of trying to look like a villager

Ur bones are wrong

i'm sketched out about gad too

fwiw