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05-23-2012 , 05:43 PM
Ok I no longer think exo is a wolf
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05-23-2012 , 05:45 PM
let's try a little experiment

VarianceMinefield
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05-23-2012 , 06:18 PM
good morning kids

what day are we on and who is dead?
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05-23-2012 , 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by bsball8806
Hi

I'm wonderful

Bitchibee is a little bit like sun tzu- doesn't explain his reads as often as I'd like him to, can be tilting to play against and thus is difficult to read early on. Also can get emotional like sun does which is usually how I try to read him.

I have no idea how exo plays (not a good thing).
I explain my reads and I don't get emotional

your tilt is your own responsibility
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05-23-2012 , 06:27 PM
nice to meet you, by the way
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05-23-2012 , 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by captain binkles
Hiya Hifi!

Thanks for that bsball, I historically don't read Sun amazingly well but I think I'm getting better at it. Maybe. Kinda. Definitely looking forward to playing with some people I haven't played with before, and also some familiar faces.
I like how I'm the most interesting person to talk about even when I'm not in the game
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05-23-2012 , 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by HiFi
I've at least turboed with everyone in this lineup so I have no excuses for sucking this game.
this seems pretty villagery to me

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Originally Posted by bsball8806
Actually HiFi

brb gym
which makes this wolfy
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05-23-2012 , 06:43 PM
If I'm seer, Binkles is a villager.
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05-23-2012 , 06:45 PM
Hi Sun:

Klein lynched d1 Wolf
HiFi killed n1 Villager -> Binkles fakepeek

Bitchi lynched d2 Villager
UAW killed n2 Villager -> Yourself and McAvoy fakepeek
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05-23-2012 , 06:45 PM
Variance
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05-23-2012 , 06:48 PM
I see what bsball is referring to on Exo's latest post, but I do think his stance on not wasting his time and the level of frustration involved in it was weird given the tone of the thread at the time. He wasn't getting a ton of hard heat, people were commenting calmly asking him questions, etc.
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05-23-2012 , 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by bsball8806
Well if each semester of wolfcollege is just a different level you're operating on, then yes!

I also think a lot of good wolves talk up their wolf games in a way to be able to say "look what I can get away with and still not get lynched, I'm so good"

Just like people that post lost wolf gifs as a lost wolf

side note: there are only 2 levels
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05-23-2012 , 06:49 PM
Felix's post about TBob reads wolfy to me
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05-23-2012 , 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by McAvoy
The flip side of that coin is we shouldn't lynch people for lying either.
no
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05-23-2012 , 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by kleinstein000
Does everyone agree with this? I feel like a tendency like this would be really player specific and not as much of a general read.
it can be player specific

it can also be leveled (it's easy to go either way deliberately)

but the important thing is that it is in a wolf's interest to be perceived as less strong as a villager so they get less heat for pushing villagers

being perceived as strong is useful for a villager because it gives them more influence

of course, wolves like having influence and villagers don't want heat but the relative weights of those factors are different


being perceived as a bad wolf is beneficial in any role and I can't think of any downside

once someone has played a good wolf game, they just have to deal with it being harder to be considered clear

specifics are more useful than generalities though

i.e. strengths and weaknesses of ones wolf and villager games
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05-23-2012 , 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by JimHalpert
Felix's post about TBob reads wolfy to me
I made a post about TBob?

What was wolfy about it?

Side note:
Brag: worked about 3 hours today, came home early
Beat: my house is infested with flies for some reason so now I'm exiled to outside for a couple hours while the kill-all-living-things foggers do their job
Variance: now I'm on cell phone on the day I most wanted to be posting from computer. Bleh.
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05-23-2012 , 07:04 PM
I'm unsure if I'm gonna be around at eod. I'm heading over to my uncles in 30 minutes for dinner, but that leaves 90 and it's right down the road. Going to try and decide if I want to vote Variance or Felix today.

I find both of them off of my villager list.
- Binkles has a strong read that VMF is a villager
- McAvoy has a strong read that Felix is a villager

- Felix would clear up a lot from an entirely hectic eod yesterday
- Variance would spew a few people lock clear to the thread if flipped wolf

- Variance hasn't been putting in a ton of work this game
- Felix was continuously saying he would be a better vote than Bitchi yesterday
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05-23-2012 , 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by bsball8806
Yeah letting me decide the lynch is an awful idea

I have about =rand reads as a villager and if I'm a wolf I'll lead us to two mislynches and then wriggle out of lynch anyway.
maybe your poor reads has something to do with not believing in tone reads

cphoya is pretty bad at making reads too
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05-23-2012 , 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Felix the Cat
I wonder if it's somehow exo and TBob?

I've been thinking about the NKs and how they don't make sense for most of the players left to make. I really don't think bsball or Jim make those NKs. I doubt binkles does, but it's possible. I've been known to make some weird NKs but one of my top considerations is mislynchability, especially on n1 I'm not NKing an easy mislynch like HiFi no matter what her peek is. VMF I have no idea, I've wolfed with him in a turbo once and he went along with my (likely fail, don't remember) NKs.

I had exo as really villagery since day 1 but that's kind of fallen apart because:
*I don't feel like he's been doing much to try to solve the game (no offense exo but I just don't get the feeling you're reading and trying to come to independent conclusions)
*He's been a little more defensive than necessary under pressure, this isn't necessarily wolfy, villagers sometimes get defensive and flustered under pressure (I sometimes do, see also yesterday), especially when they don't really know to react to it. But I find wolves are more likely to focus the conversation on why they aren't a wolf rather than who the wolves are.
*I really kind of feel like he's been skating by on everyone clearing him day 1.
*He voted against klein's lynch.
*Reading me as villagery because "nothing really stood out as wolfy" while admitting VMF wolf read is "mostly POE'd for me" seems like a disconnect; there's nothing wrong with either of those reads but I feel like the two of them together indicate that his state of mind isn't consistent, if you're making a wolf read based mostly on POE then kinda by definition nothing really stood out as wolfy to you from that player, or else the read wouldn't be mostly POE.
*TBob as wolf seems kind of random to me given the game situation and reads kind of like trying to spew.
*And a bit of POE tossed in.

exo: why do you read TBob as wolfy?
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Originally Posted by Felix the Cat
I made a post about TBob?

What was wolfy about it?

Side note:
Brag: worked about 3 hours today, came home early
Beat: my house is infested with flies for some reason so now I'm exiled to outside for a couple hours while the kill-all-living-things foggers do their job
Variance: now I'm on cell phone on the day I most wanted to be posting from computer. Bleh.

I found it wolfy because you're trying to call some skepticism on him via a notion that Exo is a wolf + Exo is calling TBob a wolf because he is + Exo as a wolf would never call vTBob a wolf there.

It just seemed weird to me.
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05-23-2012 , 07:07 PM
Oh god, not the tone read discussion again. It already drove me out of one thread
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05-23-2012 , 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu
maybe your poor reads has something to do with not believing in tone reads

cphoya is pretty bad at making reads too
Glad you joined the game too
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05-23-2012 , 07:10 PM
Votes as of post 1271
Night in 01:50

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VotesLynchVoters
2 exoendo McAvoy (29), TBobLP (20)
2 VarianceMinefield JimHalpert (52), bsball8806 (22)
5 not voting captain binkles (44), exoendo (12), Felix the Cat (5), Sun Tzu (9), VarianceMinefield (0)
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05-23-2012 , 07:10 PM
Well there were two distinct points about TBob:
*TBob might make those NKs (in the sense that he's not on the list of people I doubt would make those NKs)
*Exo having TBob wolf seems strange given the game situation

The latter isn't even about TBob, it's about exo. I think you are reading way too much into those two statements and I want to know why. What you're saying I'm saying is way different from what I'm saying in a way that doesn't make sense.
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05-23-2012 , 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by BitchiBee
villager exoendo binkles mcavoy felix tbob (uncanny valley) Jim happert wolf
???? hifi

post 10/12 felix villager/halpert wolf, why exactly is felix popping in wolfy?
im pretty sure felix is a villager actully from post 14
post 19 jim halpert writes it off as humor, do I buy this hell no
post 21 Jimhalpert trying real hard, but IM ON TO YOU BITCH
post 36 from bsball very good catch, I don't agree but i can see the reasoning
post 40 hifi is wierd is she the seer or a wolf im not sure, but somethings weird
post 44 binkles is too nice meh
post 49 this read has been confirmed Im a genius
post 56 I think exoendo can be a villager, its awkward to make a self effacing post
at the tail end of people tying to semi clear hifi in relation to hifi
post 59 I have good news mcavoy's a villager, I think i can say this to some slight degree
post 66 maybe I change my opinion of hifi, she thinks like me and thats a good thing
post 69 bsball is just wrong, that post is so bad (not in the sense that hes a wolf, just is false), Bsball pls.
post 72 yeah exoendo your are a smart guy, you are aboslutely correct this is excatly why
i don't like bsball's post in p69 although i think you are taking it a bit too far, its bad but its semi role neutral
post 75 bsball pls
post 77 this binkles guy reminds me of goofyballer, i like him
post 93 um i don't trust bsball either, but i think its a minor issue we can let resolve in the near future
post 106-110 this stream of conciousness seems candid, i don't like the reiteration of 110 but i can tenatively say
tbob is a village at this point
this post is weird but I like it and I think it's villagery
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05-23-2012 , 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by bsball8806
Glad you joined the game too


does it make you happy or sad that I haven't called you a wolf yet?
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