and that's in addition to the fact that him already being lead wagon and you pushing him are not mutually exclusive, and then in addition to that you didn't realize the wagon situation until after you voted

or in other words, yes you are obviously pushing him

mcavoy

It would be nice if RG or bremen come back sometime tonight

everyone is frozen

What happened with your lkj read soah?

well named, they're going to lynch you

Perhaps.

Sponge city

Actually I just tried to vote Bremen but I gave up when I accidentally deleted one of the brackets from the post I quoted.

Lolphoneposting

I already said we're not lynching WN

try again

Funny, I was just coming here to provide a mid-decision update.

The storyline is as follows:

1) in Uncle Dolan, it occurred to me at some point that LKJ had posted a whole bunch of stuff and I couldn't remember any of it. Then I died and he was a wolf.
2) In this game, it occurred to me that LKJ had posted a whole bunch of stuff and I couldn't remember any of it.
3) I read LKJ's posts and aside from his fight with Leo at the beginning (which included several wolfy posts on his part), his posting has mostly just been to comment on the veracity of other people's analysis while showing few or no signs that he was trying to reach conclusions about either the people he was responding to or the people being discussed in his posts. Obviously this is a generalization and not all of his posts fit this profile, but the reads he has provided have been lacking and haven't been too natural.
4) I went to research LKJ's previous games because I think I've only seen his villager game when I was a wolf and don't really remember any of it. I read his most recent game, saw that it was noticeably different from the observations I made about him in this game, and then checked and saw that he was a villager.

I am going to continue researching and hopefully I'll also have time to reread this game again to confirm any conclusions.

Just to clarify something: When I read LKJ's other game, I read him as a villager and was correct.

LKJ's last game is a tough standard to hold him too, but I agree he's not as villagery as I expect from him

the activity level in here is disappointing

where is everyone else?

I'll also clarify that I only read his posts from about the first 5 pages, since that's the part that is relevant for comparison. By that point I had my read settled pretty well and was ready to check the results.

Yeah, that doesn't work any more. Annie did it one too many times. I lost a game at f3 because of it.

I'm getting better. He's a villager as far as I can tell. We'll see how the next day or two goes.

So, this d1 is killing me, because my SOP on the first few days is to sponge the hell out of everyone else's reads. But you guys are so all over the board, that I'm not completely comfortable with anything today.

As outdrawed has pointed out, I seem to always pick my lock wolf on d1, and this game it's hardcore. I will be pushing that all game. I have no problem lynching him tonight.

Bremen is pulling another "Uncle Dolan". His lynch would be a safe lynch from a couple of perspectives -- non-participating villager, possible wolf.

Well-named is "sounding" different then he did in our last v/v game, but it's only d1. I'm not sure I like this wagon.

I will vote LKJ anytime someone wants to start a wagon.

Sun, Leo, Soah, Annie, derm, and outdrawed are off the table for me today. Probably Mac and bhuber as well, although I'm not nearly as confident.

mac, are you still around?

how drunk are you right now?

i think i'm going to declare that i'm starting over with all my reads, because i'm second-guessing all of them. never lynching annie today, his reads have been really good last couple games and he is firmly within his village range. not forcing any reads. sun seems pretty villagery also.

those are my only 2 solid reads aorn. sorry.

Hi RG. Did you pick those quotes out of a hat to respond to? Hard time choosing where to enter the thread?

soah's work on this page seems villagery.

roundguy's post seems pretty content-heavy for roundguy.

they can be villagers.

i don't think those are random at all. he commented on someone voting him and noted a spot where he had a read and a guy said that no one should have one yet.

I re-entered the thread the minute I was caught up. Those were the first two that hit me as I started catching up. And I'm not a huge MQ kinda guy.

It's all I needed to get back in the swing of things after a 20-hour or so absence.

Why, you got a problem with that? Bring it on.

that's probably the most reads i've ever seen roundguy make in one post. the fact that bhuber decided to attack him for that is pretty wut.