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04-26-2016 , 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by xander biscuits
Gonna be at work in a couple of minutes and unable to check back for a few hours

I'm kinda lost atm tbh.

Normally I'm suspicious of too many people and this time I'm not suspicious of enough

I like the group of:

fraley
monte
knights
AIB

to be pretty wolf dense

Interesting. I agree that there could be two in this list (obviously excluding myself). Imo it would be fraley and AIB (his late push on you when lord and myself were trying to wagon you felt...meh)
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04-26-2016 , 10:39 AM
I think I'm alright with that explanation from Knights, although it would be a whole lot better if we killed grant, he flipped wolf so we could clear a bunch of people, first being Knights
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04-26-2016 , 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by mucksandgravs
Fraley also a wolf

Knights needs to explain himself

We need to figure out if grant is a wolf or villager

A lot of other people need to get in here and post. I feel like the thread is dead
I just did 3 posts up
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04-26-2016 , 10:40 AM
duck, I've slotted zorkman firmly in the BATM zone, where I don't read his posts until there's a compelling reason to do so

Nothing I've seen so far in the words that have accidentally entered my cerebellum while frantically space barring whenever I see his avatar has clarified his role whatsoever
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04-26-2016 , 10:41 AM
I think I'm going to reread EOD using the effen theorem

Results to come
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04-26-2016 , 10:42 AM
tbh i'm okay with not being clear from that vote, and I wish I had been there for EoD so i could actually influence the wagons.

Tbh, I think JP is probably the most wolfy just based off of the kills, JP has a meta for killing the strongest players first always when he's mafia. And 2 of those kills are DM players who read him well (although wiggles probably killed by villa vig) And now that Banks flipped town, he's probably just right that JP is mafia.

jp
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04-26-2016 , 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Duckburg
Seriously?! Why the F**** aren't people saying anything to this?
The guy is agreeing with grant and is voting on the person, who can get grant lynched.
I cannot believe that you're letting this pass...


IMO this post reeks of PR wolf, who are trying to buy his comrades more time.


Remember that a D1 lynch of a wolf would not have been as bad as in other games, due to the backup.
Wouldn't any wolf try to buy his comrades more time?... Also there's basically nothing but PR wolves, at the time the only non-PR that was around was the backup, and he's even a PR himself. I fail to see your logic friend
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04-26-2016 , 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by grant2
If I were the seer I'd have peeked Ace. But I will post the peek later and make it seem like I was just analyzing his posts!
A recent survey conducted by Thingy shows that wolves are more likely to leave fake peeks, so they can claim later in the game, than villagers are.

This is also one of the reasons to why it should be required in signups to leave fake peeks, as not to leave the seer all exposed.

This is grant2's second post of the game.

grant2/Zorkman today

Then our vigs shoots a wolf, and we are in the game again.
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04-26-2016 , 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Montecore
I rarely see him make posts at all

But especially given my realization a few posts back, it is mechanically less likely that he is one, even without him going whatever the Danish version of HAM is
Oh yeah I didn't even think about mechanics stuff. Good call
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04-26-2016 , 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Weatherguy
AFK wolves at EOD who couldn't have caused the wagon to be more onesided?
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Originally Posted by Montecore
Yup

We have quite a few euros and other random slankers that could just as easily not have been around.

Plus, assuming that the wolves would/could have pushed the lynch is one direction means you're assuming that wolfchat is much more on the ball than they typically are
I thought about this and the NKs don't make sense if this is the case.

All available wolves are trying to save grant by voting lord with the others slanking and sleeping. Then they proceed to kill all villagers voting Lord leaving themselves wide open for attack when grant gets lynched.

I mean how many sleeping wolves could there be?
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04-26-2016 , 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Montecore
duck, I've slotted zorkman firmly in the BATM zone, where I don't read his posts until there's a compelling reason to do so

Nothing I've seen so far in the words that have accidentally entered my cerebellum while frantically space barring whenever I see his avatar has clarified his role whatsoever
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Originally Posted by Zorkman
Your read doesnt have to be strong, you had a read on all those other people. But then after I posted that I saw you have a village lean for me.



You don't deserve to live but I think you're villaging now. Dammit.

unvote
Drudge.jpg

How many lynches do we have today?
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04-26-2016 , 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by theknightsofneeee
I just did 3 posts up
👍 that was a xpost
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04-26-2016 , 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Duckburg
Vote grant/Zorkman and then we'll learn from that.


I hope it is due to wrong word positions and sentence constructions, since we're both Danes.


I think the vig(nothing personal vig) needs to stop Rollwave'ing and start shooting wolves.


No need to get into mechanics, just accept that I'm a villager and I won't live to the endgame.
rofl
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04-26-2016 , 10:44 AM
@duckburg,

it was more of making the short lists of people to kill which I am not in entire agreeance with. I think the only difference though is that chrja tried to make it look like the villagers had an influence on the list.

I just don't think Grant and Zork are particularly good places to look at today.
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04-26-2016 , 10:45 AM
Roman sponging my vote all day yesterday after wanting to thunderdome AiB for most of the afternoon is pretty atypical, and is definitely out of character for him

Plus he has a typically wolfy EOD post construction whereby he flits in and out without having a consistent presence

Given his hammer of grant at 9:00 to push him into a tie I don' think they can ever be w/w, though
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04-26-2016 , 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Montecore
I rarely see him make posts at all

But especially given my realization a few posts back, it is mechanically less likely that he is one, even without him going whatever the Danish version of HAM is
HAM = Skinke

I agree, though, never really seen Duck as invested and on-topic as right now, it's a good look
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04-26-2016 , 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Duckburg
A recent survey conducted by Thingy shows that wolves are more likely to leave fake peeks, so they can claim later in the game, than villagers are.

This is also one of the reasons to why it should be required in signups to leave fake peeks, as not to leave the seer all exposed.

This is grant2's second post of the game.

grant2/Zorkman today

Then our vigs shoots a wolf, and we are in the game again.
Yeah I picked up on that as soon as it happened. His entrance was wolfy af

Starts off with a bunch of exclamation points then goes immediately into a fake peek. Wolfing 101

I regret not lynching him last night but I was almost positive lord had rolled over. His posting last night was atrocious.
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04-26-2016 , 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by theknightsofneeee
tbh i'm okay with not being clear from that vote, and I wish I had been there for EoD so i could actually influence the wagons.

Tbh, I think JP is probably the most wolfy just based off of the kills, JP has a meta for killing the strongest players first always when he's mafia. And 2 of those kills are DM players who read him well (although wiggles probably killed by villa vig) And now that Banks flipped town, he's probably just right that JP is mafia.

jp
In fairness it's pretty pretty much protocol to kill the stronger players if you're not really sure about who to kill and they have some decent PR equity
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04-26-2016 , 10:48 AM
Why are people missing the part where I said I thought Bluff's last couple of posts yesterday were okay? That's the main reason I moved off him.

grant
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04-26-2016 , 10:48 AM
I think the one thing we have going for us is that we haven't lost any investigative roles. As the game gets smaller their targets will have more value/more likely to have useful information. So i'm still mildly optimistic.
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04-26-2016 , 10:48 AM
The prior post was made at :57


Now this guy spends time quoting 4 posts FROM THE PRIOR PAGE....
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Originally Posted by Zorkman
good points

Fraley



sponging you for now as per my being impressed (as stated earlier) with your posting today



so villagery, why couldnt you have done this sooner



Maybe, but grant just isnt wolfy AT ALL I do not see it, whereas fraley is not being helpful
"sponging monte" - hereby not taking responsibility at all
saying it's with a sad heart he is doing it...
(IF someone calls you at a poker table, with "the speech", then you're dead"

"Maybe grant just wolfy"...

I'm puking....
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04-26-2016 , 10:49 AM
Agree with viggo. Don't think those kills are alignment indicative at all. JP still has decent chance of being wolf though.
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04-26-2016 , 10:49 AM
Zork does seem a bit howly, but he's always howly. I was a mason with him once and it was everything I could do to try and save him. I ended up getting killed bc I defended him so hard they thought I peeked him. So I guess I'm just a little skeptical about lynching zork bc he could flip anything.
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04-26-2016 , 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Montecore
This attitude is . . . troubling
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Originally Posted by grant2
This is a pretty awful attitude IMO.
Sorry you guys dont like how I want to play? I'm kind of a selfish player, I believe in my reads more than anyone else, and I like killing the people I want to kill, because a) I'm probably right, and b) if i'm wrong, i want to know asap so I can reevaluate. Also factoring into the way I was acting is that I wasnt going to be around EoD, so I didnt want to just peace out with a vote that I wasnt comfortable with, and I thought there was real potential to start a wagon on Xander

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Originally Posted by xander biscuits
Villa reads:

Viggo
Knights
Monte

Wolf read:

Apoc

All these reads are based on interactions with me
I find it interesting that you called both myself and Monte town based on interactions with you, but then you later called us both, along with fraley and AIB possible wolves? what changed?
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04-26-2016 , 10:50 AM
This game has me baffled. I last night I could not find anyone I considered a wolf:

zdye - doesn't match his wolf game (longer, more pointed posts)
AIB - doesn't match his wolf game (focused, seems happy to be posting)
Nee - Similar to his (single) villager game. I don't think he'd talk about championing a xander/zork lynch as a wolf.
Fraley - Doesn't match his wolf game (very serious posting)
Viggo - Doesn't match his wolf game (very serious posting)
Roman - Skeptical he starts this tdome stuff as a wolf
Xander - Had a lot of fight mid-day, does he do it as wolf??
Banks - really impressed me with his analysis on re-read
Bigger - totally carefree on passing out random judgements, seems to have no agenda at all
Diceman - doesn't match his wolf game (he's calm and serious)
Zork - i buy dat tone.

Who's left?

Rawrs - i suspected I was pocketed by him after all the above but clearly not...
Killer - he could be in both w/v range.
BATM - his flip on me was suspicious, but it would have had to have been to save JP. if JP is a wolf then ace is a wolf.
0-poster - 25% chance there

I just feel like town got the worst rand on this game
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