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04-15-2016 , 07:41 AM

#23051

LordJvK

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Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 13,489

I'll just put it a different way, I'd rather not have to worry about if a guy like pizza is a wolf when any of the people I listed are still alive.

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04-15-2016 , 07:41 AM

#23052

kokiri

ffermwr moch

Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 52,228

Quote:

Originally Posted by iamnotawerewolf

who have your other targets been and when?

No one - I understood it to be a one-time shot, so I held off until last night. Now I think I might have been mistaken and I can potentially shoot once per night.

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04-15-2016 , 07:41 AM

#23053

iamnotawerewolf

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Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 31,482

Quote:

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

Spoiler:

Give it a real look as a personal favor to me.

This has been Pizza's game for days now, btw.

Posting long, intractable multiquotes or blocks of text, and then asking others to "help him" sort through it all, or to "go look for it" because, naturally, it is there.

It's not only anti-village, it is diminishing thread readability.

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04-15-2016 , 07:45 AM

#23054

LordJvK

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Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 13,489

I believe Kikori btw.

Could be a large dose of confirmation bias by me, but after ISOing yesterday, I had Cannon Fodder pegged as a probably wolf and nothing they did during the day really changed that read for me. And this basically is the smoking gun on the case.

I think Cannon should be an automatic shot in ITAs.

I can't see a world really where a wolf Kikori would ever make this up.

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04-15-2016 , 07:45 AM

#23055

Askthepizzaguy

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 7,685

Quote:

Originally Posted by iamnotawerewolf

Sure, blame me for you being incredibly lazy and not wanting to read.

No one is forcing you to play this game.

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04-15-2016 , 07:45 AM

#23056

lenC

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 12,101

Quote:

Originally Posted by kokiri

FTR, why exactly are you voting me?

It seems like you had the unfortunate rand of a wolf.

Can picture the wolfchat now.

"Hey guys, let me work on this creamy claim." An hour later you post that wall of text which can easily be summarized into one sentence.

Been there a million times. And the way wolves are playing, it would make some sense for the team be filled with low impact players who don't have much time to commit(I see the irony here).

What happens when your target doesn't die tomorrow? "Hey, check back with me tomorrow, I'll try again."

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04-15-2016 , 07:45 AM

#23057

RollWave

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Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 12,570

if wooderson is a villager, he really blew it by killing xander. could have been lock clear today, but now a guaranteed spot of ongoing conversation.

there's no way for us to tell the difference between him being a village vig, and the wolf team making a plausible kill for him to take credit of.

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04-15-2016 , 07:46 AM

#23058

iamnotawerewolf

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Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 31,482

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nofear3838

Your 0/7 list contains fraleyight and Telc, your 1/7 contains a claim (and if you don't believe the claim, you're calling everyone else a villager in that pile, which contains quite some wolfy people), your 2/7 contains probably 4/7, your 1/3 is laughable say NL is the only one that has even a chance of being a wolf (and I don't think he is), and the 2/4 is probably the only thing close to correct.

It's probably safe to assume closer to 10 wolves left. 30 wolves (~25%) in a 122 player game seems insanely low.

I'm comfortable with fraley there, and Telc seems chipper.

Explain the claim issue please, I'm not 100% up on all the mech stuff.

You would laugh at your own name, and I've already been making my thoughts on Ask clear. NL is another spammer, and I don't have any saved, but several of his posts have left me and others feeling less than comfortable with him.

Now, if you're looking at an all-or-nothing grade on the list, sure I'll fail. But I think I would get at least 80% right, which isn't bad imo.

I expect there to be another neutral, and probably a godfather to contend with eventually.

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04-15-2016 , 07:47 AM

#23059

lenC

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Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 12,101

Quote:

Originally Posted by lenC

Add to the end:
Or someone does get killed and it conveniently happens to be a villager.

Like you're trying to make some type of deal here and I don't really see much upside.

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04-15-2016 , 07:47 AM

#23060

LordJvK

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Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 13,489

Quote:

Originally Posted by lenC

So you don't believe the claim?

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04-15-2016 , 07:48 AM

#23061

iamnotawerewolf

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Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 31,482

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Originally Posted by LordJvK

Where does one even start with that though?

Most active players have a good list of pretty clearing things they can point to. Some lists are longer than others, but it's that point in the game.

I think resolving other cases should be a priority over that, if only to keep village leaders from imploding, which can happen.

Do you disagree?

I mean, I agree that ultimately, if the game doesn't end with the next few flips, that it is inevitable to get into tinfoil land, but do you really think it's anti-village to try to stay focused on a smaller PoE today?

I'm not saying we need to start shooting our core. But people need to keep in mind that nobody is really 100% clear.

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04-15-2016 , 07:48 AM

#23062

Sobriquet

grinder

Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 599

EOD 1

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt Hindsight

Votes from post 12 to post 6757
It is night
---

Votes	Lynch	Voters
43	KruZe	SirRawrsALot (51), Bloobird (103), dkgojackets (5), Weatherguy (20), chuckleslovakian (62), Wooders0n (34), LKJ (71), DWetzel (17), CPHoya (89), biggerboat (28), fnord_too (74), lilrascal (24), loosekanen (55), No Lynches (135), Vagos (140), benneh (177), J.D. (21), TehBankertin (85), Eurotrash (22), RollWave (34), fraleyight (46), younguns87 (125), Stevedotdec (45), Forsythio (38), lenC (25), jonnyd (64), accobra_kid (35), Namath12 (107), Boner2 (145), mucksandgravs (144), watevs (13), JimHalpert (141), Myrologue (59), iversonian (10), Thingyman (136), Panther_ (67), Jon Paul (31), bopolis (116), dogmother1776 (12), TheBrokenATM! (135), rtspurs (35), Loretta8 (58), Nofear3838 (47)
18	StuckinARutt	ApocPS (53), Mor_Tilt4mePls (33), Effen (136), corycurren (181), Stork.. (124), Slow_Ben (105), DrawNone (7), StuckinARutt (49), Kaze13 (143), Zaccino (44), kidcolin (20), Larry Legend (37), Beck Novo (142), LordJvK (30), Gamer Dude (51), aaronk56 (9), Lissa2 (147), Top Tier Tom (130)
8	TheBrokenATM!	RAORoman (121), Zorkman (18), The Moocher (125), Sobriquet (81), Gadarene (80), Xkf (109), mexineil (45), CalledDownLight (99)
4	Nofear3838	Booker Wolfbox (10), Onuzq (22), Adam33 (27), Telcontar (38)
4	mexineil	shortline99 (15), HUstylez (102), well named (21), grant2 (19)
3	jonnyd	ShipItUp (17), TehVader (59), AllInBluff (36)
2	Quick_Ben	chrja (28), sixfour (14)
2	Wooders0n	bowens (19), vixticator (5)
1	necro/klingbard	dankhank (21)
1	Thingyman	gambit8888 (27)
1	Jon Paul	jennyhell (53)
1	JimHalpert	KruZe (91)
1	Boner2	Coolossus (15)
1	Beck Novo	vyk07 (17)
1	Kaze13	Duckburg (7)
1	Stevedotdec	Yawn (5)
1	TehBankertin	mutigers (53)
1	benneh	iamnotawerewolf (71)
1	loosekanen	Viggorous (100)
1	fnord_too	Quick_Ben (37)
1	LKJ	VarianceMinefield (28)
1	chuckleslovakian	Allundberg (40)
1	dankhank	dLGN (58)
1	VarianceMinefield	Shad_ (41)
1	HUstylez	Cannon fodder (32)
1	AllInBluff	peskypenguin (11)
1	mutigers	SuqAta8 (27)
1	Cannon fodder	monstrman (76)
1	Allundberg	jcohen (74)
1	SirRawrsALot	Kawamii (9)
11	not voting	Ace of Spaids (44), confirmedtroll (28), killer_kill (10), kokiri (6), necro/klingbard (7), nutshot2 (5), Shoving (2), tchaz/owner (14), TheNothing (0), wiper/Askthepizzaguy (0), xander biscuits (6)
2	Error	BenjaminAO (112), Aksdal (25)

EOD 2

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt Hindsight

Votes from post 6773 to post 14181
It is night
---

Votes	Lynch	Voters
30	gambit8888	Larry Legend (59), Klingbard (13), J.D. (16), fraleyight (112), Panther_ (62), iamnotawerewolf (58), jonnyd (155), Askthepizzaguy (159), Kawamii (40), vixticator (17), Stevedotdec (55), SuqAta8 (42), fnord_too (82), ApocPS (187), rtspurs (42), Lissa2 (204), Loretta8 (95), xander biscuits (26), AllInBluff (104), Stork.. (102), mucksandgravs (129), Weatherguy (93), TehBankertin (124), Top Tier Tom (39), Boner2 (155), Vagos (221), shortline99 (261), Eurotrash (44), Yawn (24), DWetzel (73)
27	Slow_Ben	HUstylez (110), chrja (27), bowens (19), RAORoman (136), Wooders0n (32), Shad_ (19), kidcolin (52), sixfour (33), Zorkman (28), Xkf (173), Telcontar (67), confirmedtroll (45), Jon Paul (50), LKJ (96), aaronk56 (7), RollWave (21), loosekanen (62), Sobriquet (62), Booker Wolfbox (8), No Lynches (206), mutigers (71), corycurren (315), dogmother1776 (26), nutshot2 (18), dankhank (47), JimHalpert (196), Nofear3838 (53)
9	Onuzq	CalledDownLight (115), Cannon fodder (22), gambit8888 (12), mexineil (88), Kaze13 (118), ShipItUp (51), TehVader (59), dkgojackets (14), Zaccino (10)
1	Top Tier Tom	Viggorous (211)
1	Jon Paul	jcohen (152)
1	mexineil	TheNothing (191)
1	Cannon fodder	monstrman (72)
1	bowens	Aksdal (21)
1	killer_kill	Owner (45)
1	unvote	biggerboat (26)
9	not voting	Ace of Spaids (40), Adam33 (60), DrawNone (0), kokiri (10), lenC (14), Onuzq (79), peskypenguin (6), Slow_Ben (21), well named (30)
5	Error	Allundberg (14), killer_kill (19), LordJvK (51), Duckburg (69), Thingyman (192)

EOD 3

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt Hindsight

Votes from post 14190 to post 19420
It is night
---

Votes	Lynch	Voters
19	confirmedtroll	monstrman (95), Shad_ (48), DWetzel (137), Booker Wolfbox (17), dogmother1776 (19), lenC (28), Stevedotdec (39), Jon Paul (42), fraleyight (77), Adam33 (62), corycurren (159), Klingbard (23), HUstylez (119), mutigers (135), TehBankertin (138), Top Tier Tom (40), Xkf (99), Wooders0n (76)RAORoman (117)
10	Booker Wolfbox	kidcolin (96), jonnyd (183), RollWave (32), Larry Legend (117), Nofear3838 (69), dankhank (27), Sobriquet (90), vixticator (42), bowens (10), CalledDownLight (178)
6	LordJvK	No Lynches (114), Stork.. (124), Kawamii (31), Panther_ (56), Weatherguy (46), Loretta8 (120)
3	TehBankertin	TheNothing (171), Askthepizzaguy (117), Ace of Spaids (86)
2	bowens	Duckburg (51), xander biscuits (68)
2	Wooders0n	aaronk56 (9), AllInBluff (85)
1	vixticator	chrja (27)
1	Klingbard	confirmedtroll (20)
1	lenC	ShipItUp (17)
1	monstrman	jcohen (267)
1	Kawamii	loosekanen (72)
1	aaronk56	kokiri (6)
1	Stork..	peskypenguin (23)
6	not voting	Cannon fodder (32), J.D. (20), killer_kill (40), LordJvK (10), nutshot2 (0), Viggorous (193)
4	Error	Telcontar (32), Allundberg (40), iamnotawerewolf (159), SuqAta8 (97),

(^^Corrected to reflect Wooderson's vote in the VC)

EOD 4

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt Hindsight

Votes from post 19430 to post 22694
It is night
---

Votes	Lynch	Voters
14	Adam33	TehBankertin (186), Stevedotdec (44), SuqAta8 (36), corycurren (208), Nofear3838 (81), Jon Paul (134), Shad_ (51), Larry Legend (94), RollWave (34), peskypenguin (34), Loretta8 (100), DWetzel (123), J.D. (26), Kawamii (60)
7	kokiri	Cannon fodder (40), xander biscuits (42), iamnotawerewolf (126), mutigers (27), loosekanen (57), Klingbard (24), fraleyight (106)
4	Kawamii	aaronk56 (6), Duckburg (64), dankhank (16), Wooders0n (90)
2	dogmother1776	Askthepizzaguy (98), monstrman (18)
2	Wooders0n	Adam33 (101), LordJvK (203)
2	monstrman	HUstylez (45), dogmother1776 (34)
1	killer_kill	lenC (37)
1	J.D.	Telcontar (36)
1	Jon Paul	No Lynches (194)
1	No Lynches	ShipItUp (20)
2	not voting	killer_kill (9), kokiri (49)
5	Error	chrja (13), Allundberg (55), Ace of Spaids (49), Weatherguy (53), Sobriquet (41)

NIGHT

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04-15-2016 , 07:49 AM

#23063

LordJvK

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Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 13,489

^ Adam had bussed CDL and and others before, I wonder if his vote on Wood there is because he knew he was on his way out?

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04-15-2016 , 07:50 AM

#23064

LordJvK

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Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 13,489

(yes, I'm suggesting Wood is w)

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04-15-2016 , 07:50 AM

#23065

lenC

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Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 12,101

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordJvK

So you don't believe the claim?

Like I said, I think he TMId a little while presuming he got roleblocked(which I believe he did, just as a wolf).

Just no way we can afford to let him live through today. Worst case scenario seems to be losing a 1xvig if I've understood correctly.

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04-15-2016 , 07:51 AM

#23066

LordJvK

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Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 13,489

Kikori wagon has a scummy feel to me.

Cannon is there. KINGBARD is there.

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04-15-2016 , 07:51 AM

#23067

iamnotawerewolf

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Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 31,482

Quote:

Originally Posted by kokiri

No one - I understood it to be a one-time shot, so I held off until last night. Now I think I might have been mistaken and I can potentially shoot once per night.

So you have a nightly conditional vig, and you say you didn't use it until last night, when it was angeled, but you can use it going forward.

...

How do you sit on a vig for three days? If you have a vig, you want to know exactly how you can use it right away, I presume.

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04-15-2016 , 07:52 AM

#23068

iamnotawerewolf

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 31,482

Someone really needs to start counting deaths/night and matching w/ powers.

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04-15-2016 , 07:53 AM

#23069

LordJvK

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Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 13,489

Quote:

Originally Posted by lenC

Well there's two ways to resolve it.

1. Kill Cannon

2. Kill Kikori

From my POV, Cannon is by far the scummier seeming player. And look at Kikori's wagon last night.

Several other lurky guys in there, especially Kingbard.

I'd much prefer to resolve the claim by killing Cannon before Kikori.

Last time we had a scenario like this, I argued to kill Wood before AiB, and everyone went the other way and AiB was villa. Just sayin.

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04-15-2016 , 07:53 AM

#23070

lenC

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 12,101

Quote:

Originally Posted by RollWave

I read xanders and Wood's interaction today.

To me it sort of makes sense from Wood's POV. It's a classic, "he thinks I'm a wolf so therefore he's a wolf".

I doubt very much someone like wooderson would post a list of 3/3 wolves early d2 as a wolf himself but I get were going into the paranoid-part of the game so whatever.

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04-15-2016 , 07:54 AM

#23071

LordJvK

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Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 13,489

Also, Wood still lives and is still unresolved ...

And came in today claimed a shot on xander and has ... said NOTHING else.

Watch as he sneaks into ITAs later.

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04-15-2016 , 07:55 AM

#23072

iamnotawerewolf

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 31,482

Quote:

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

Sure, blame me for you being incredibly lazy and not wanting to read.

No one is forcing you to play this game.

we want YOUR conclusions, and you ask us to help you find them

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04-15-2016 , 07:55 AM

#23073

lenC

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Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 12,101

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordJvK

I see no reason they can't make up that stuff as w/w. If you guys want to kill Cannon first then by all means.

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04-15-2016 , 07:56 AM

#23074

LordJvK

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Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 13,489

Quote:

Originally Posted by lenC

I see no reason they can't make up that stuff as w/w. If you guys want to kill Cannon first then by all means.

Oh that had not even occurred to me.

But ... what's the play? Seems a sure fire way to get them BOTH killed, no?

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04-15-2016 , 07:56 AM

#23075

iamnotawerewolf

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Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 31,482

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordJvK

No world? Even being the top-listed name?

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