Ideally wolves want to shoot at each other and miss.

But I'm null on you at worst atm, just quoted this cause I thought it was goofy.

I mean I can tell you who I would kill if I was you guys but honestly, you are probably better off killing me because I don't think I can keep this amount of towniness up and I don't want you to use other KP against me, only for me to flip villa.

I guess if I had to pick a wolfy counter wagon: mutigers, NL, Loretta8, maybe Shad (really not sure about this one)?

I am trying to go through everyone in a list now but I am having a hard time remembering who is cleared now and why because I know I have a limited clock here.

Why would we not Lynch you if you claimed neutral though?

i think most people knew that and didn't need to be reminded. also, it may still be clearing for him so their conclusions arent necessarily wrong.

you specifically mentioned 'in context' though. and your post didn't indicate that you really had used the context. and i think you've in general missed a lot. so that's why i pointed it out to you specifically.

Allundberg and Jon Paul are peeked.

Bussing isn't where you half kill your bro tho

There's no point in half pushing me cause then neither side gets as much credit.

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Votes	Lynch	Voters
9	peskypenguin	Loretta8 (110), Nofear3838 (185), loosekanen (56), chrja (39), Allundberg (72), Stevedotdec (80), RollWave (56), killer_kill (67), Shad_ (136)
3	No Lynches	iamnotawerewolf (107), Larry Legend (131), Klingbard (68)
2	Loretta8	dogmother1776 (18), Jon Paul (82)
1	killer_kill	Weatherguy (180)
1	mutigers	No Lynches (56)
1	not voting	peskypenguin (58)
4	Error	HUstylez (14), lenC (67), mutigers (23), dankhank (51)

the convoluted part is involving lissa being lost wolf and figuring out when she joined the team as to whether or not larry could have known she was a wolf.

there's several moving parts and assumptions going on in there.

pesky

pesky

Whichever wolf gets deeper by gameplay gets shot credit when the other flips.

But it's not important really. I'm still many pages behind from being gone all day but last few posts I read of yours are looking good. Liked the reason for your vote on Sobri even though he flipped town. I'll see where it goes from there.

Realistically I might not even be current by DL. Goal for tomorrow morning is that + study Loretta.

Speaking of which can anyone tell me where abouts in the game Banks cases Loretta?

The whole way he tried to not give me credit for going at Lissa but not knowing the exact details and as more came out making it clear Lissa was probably found and probably a member of the wolf team he kept up his case on me while ignoring inconsistencies.

That and hard defending adam when I read the thread completely opposite was too much for me.

It starts during the Adam lynch.

- Confuse. Also will hit at double the base rate, but IF it hits, it will process as "hit, no effect".

if you were a wolf and had a confuse gun, would you give it to a villager or a wolf?

Here's my list of just random thoughts on people:

Allundberg - confirmed town; not really gonna consider much him outside of that except he needs to be around more and get organized.
chrja - Still not sure on him but probably villa.
dankhank - Is this the guy who claimed weird power role and then claimed whatever he did had nothing to do with me? Hasn't been inherently scummy or towny.
dogmother1776 - likely villa I think
HUstylez - I started to tinfoil on him today. He hasn't been so towny and has had some weird vote but under pressure I can't remember who exactly he killed so I maybe be just be lolishotpizzaguyingunderpressure,
iamnotawerewolf - Seems to be pretty likely villa when he's here
Jon Paul - Confirmed. Stop being so bullheaded about your reads, trying considering other worlds and listening to others opinions.
killer_kill - His posts recently have been somewhat strange to me. It's almost as if he's trying to find me slipping to bury me or something. If he's not cleared for a really good reason, then look deeper at this guy. Maybe just has an awkward way of going about things though. ie: AOS
Klingbard - Had some nice posts today but I can't remember anything specific for sure. Probably villa.
Larry Legend - Should have more pressure going on him then he's been getting. Don't let him slide for his vote on BATM. Part of me thinks he will be villa. How many shots has he seen in ITAs?
lenC - Idk about his meta but he had a wolfy push on me. I thought he would participate more as a villa, much like NL. Seems decent though. Probably falls right at the end of my POE.
loosekanen - literally have no idea
Loretta8 - I can point to a lot of things that were extremely scummy but part of me thinks we shouldn't kill him for a little to see what happens and who else flips so we can get more info about what really happened here. Making a snap decision on this one is exactly what the wolves want you guys to do.
mutigers - other than his vote, something pinged me from him that I can't get over much like my Stork and Lissa reads.
Nofear3838 - likely villa? honestly can't remember
No Lynches - looks more and more wolfy as each day goes by. I don't know if I kill him today or not. Has played bad but voted on wolves and now seems uninterested in actually getting to end of game.
RollWave - I might be the only person who thinks he's likely villa too but that's only a tone read and I have no idea how he voted or shot or have any meta at all.
Shad_ - Should be in POE but I kinda changed my mind that I want to kill him. Has played better. If he has weird shots and votes then probably kill him.
Stevedotdec - I really really want to believe still is villa here but he seems kinda uninterested in the outcome of the game and has been pretty wishy washy on his reads outside of DMers where he has been fruitfully wrong. Part of me thinks if Loretta is a wolf then Steve could be one too but kinda a weird situation there.
Weatherguy - likely villa

mmmmmmaybe. I think a simple "well her pr wasn't active until d2 so she probably hadn't joined the wolf team yet" was just as likely. At least, I think if you're looking at both possibilities there's a relatively simple and coherent villager POV to it if you accept that the villager is a bit of a doofus.

I dunno.

I'd peek you if I had one.

The crazy thing is we have stuff like ianaww who nonetheless seems like a villager, but if for some reason that shot was a bus it is definitely a viable high variance play yo get clear forever.

But is shooting the wolf lovers out of the blue basically a binary event that can win a game, I don't think so, but it might be.

Loretta8

It's no choice today, pesky has to go.

I'll be hero shooting tomorrow.

Who shot at pesky today?

mutigers is a secret jayhawks fan. i don't actually believe that but right now i don't know what to believe.

I understand but what's your plan for when I flip villa.

JP and I are like the only ones who discussed this possibility. Everyone is saying I have to die like Booker but no one wants to give an opinion of what happens afterwards.