Game would be kissing, not kiss

Beard is decent backup

I'm good with:

Groom
Hand
Sugar
Pass

Beard

Go ahead and bold if you haven't changed your mind. j

groom
hand
sugar
pass

beard

Leader - 3
kiss - 3

Armor
Beard
Blacksmith
Blues
Boom
Cover
Dinosaur
Dress
Fan
Game
Glasses
Limousine
Plot
Sloth
Smuggler
Soup
St.Patrick
Tokyo
Turkey
Wheel

Governor

Pyramid
Groom
Hand
Sugar

bump

bump

Give me an hour

Let's see how this goes..

Dictator - 6

A lot less sure about St Patrick.

I think Limo is still good, as is Plot.

Other things are much less obvious imo.

Armor - Needs protection
Beard - Often male, so can grow one
Blacksmith - Another job
Blues - Don't see it
Boom - Could be at risk of blowing up
Cover - Meh
Dinosaur - Often old
Dress - Wear fancy stuff
Fan - No
Game - Game of Thrones? Kinda weak.
Glasses - Don't think so
Limousine - I think we have to
Plot - Yes
Sloth - Lazy?
Smuggler - Another job
Soup - No
St.Patrick - Don't think so anymore
Tokyo - Not really the area of the world I think of for this
Turkey - Erdogan reference?
Wheel - Fancy cars? Meh.

bump

Dictator with a capital. Suggests Roman to me?

Armor - Roman Dictators started out as Generals
Blacksmith - second degree from Armor
Boom - second degree from Plot
Dress - dictators are famous for creating mystique with forms of dress
Limousine - dictators ride around like world leaders
Plot - They get blown up, and they take power by participating in plots
Turkey - has one

I'd say my order would be:

Turkey
Limousine
Plot
Dress
Boom
Armor

bump

eb bold as you like

bump

Limousine
Plot
Turkey
Dress
Armor
Boom

Limo is blue

Sorry guys..

IBD (or anyone), can update? I'm on the road today

Leader - 3
kiss - 3
Dictator - 6

Armor
Beard
Blacksmith
Blues
Boom
Cover
Dinosaur
Dress
Fan
Game
Glasses
Plot
Sloth
Smuggler
Soup
St.Patrick
Tokyo
Turkey
Wheel

Governor

Pyramid
Groom
Hand
Sugar
Limousine

leather - unlimited

That gives us beard and armor

From there, we could go dress & blacksmith

Beard and game are the only 2 we’ve mentioned so those are ours

And then armor for leather prolly

Blacksmiths wear leather aprons. Game is probably better than dress, though

Game assuming he'd go to a previous list, that is?

we have 5 so only need 3 more

leather - 2 is 2 leather words + beard
leather - unlimited is 1 leather word + the 2 words we mentioned or it's 2nd word (game) and 2 leather words


armor+blacksmith = chainmail, shield, etc; I think leather is to avoid blacksmith

a dress can be leather, so if it's for 2nd word on list then it's game+armor+dress but armor+dress would just be clothes or wearable or suit or something


or he could be doing ervin/d1 thing where they use unlimited for top of list here even though it's not nearly as clear as leather-2 which tells us 100% it's 2 leather words and top of list...but some people insist on unlimited anyway to be less clear...i've never seen ibd do unlimited here instead of n-1, though, and he knows that I'm logically in favor of the clear 2 clue here, so I don't see his unlimited being for that (game theory dominated) clue style


ugh; unlimiteds are just so fuzzy because they don't tell us how many words they are for

armor is either metal, in which case blacksmith comes into play, or it's leather, which is why I think he went leather


if he did leather - 2 then I'd say it's armor+dress and then beard

beard hits dictator soooo hard, though, given many dictators have beards

so maybe unlimited is for "word not top of list" which would be game

then it would be 2 leather words + game

but then why not wearable or clothes? what is the 2nd leather word if this is for 2 leather words?