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03-30-2012 , 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan
mac is correct. We probly shouldnt lynch anarchist. Or mac. Or uaw. Or Timmy

Plus you're lurking
so my case is: (1) i'm not one of 4 people and (2) I am not making constant posts.

colombo better watch out, he's got competition
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03-30-2012 , 06:43 PM
I love colombo
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03-30-2012 , 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by captain binkles
Mac did some amazing work on page 14
i agree that he's been pretty good today. but what on earth is the excuse for not just being like that yesterday. why be a complete troll as a villager ever
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03-30-2012 , 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Perdition
For the record.
These wagons are unbelievably good.
Why in your opinion am I a good wagon at this point?
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03-30-2012 , 06:45 PM
thanks for the list and the age answer teddy. for some reason your posts were striking me as being made my like a little kid. no offense
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03-30-2012 , 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by NLSoldier
i agree that he's been pretty good today. but what on earth is the excuse for not just being like that yesterday. why be a complete troll as a villager ever
There was no info to use yesterday. I don't post day one for a reason usually.

Yesterday is a prime example of why I don't post d1, I get bored with the lack of info. By d2, we know 2 people's roles and we have a bunch of dynamics of people arguing amongst each other that I can analyze.
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03-30-2012 , 06:48 PM
then you should stick to not posting d1.
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03-30-2012 , 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by NLSoldier
thanks for the list and the age answer teddy. for some reason your posts were striking me as being made my like a little kid. no offense
My kids are down for spring break.they must be rubbing off on me.
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03-30-2012 , 06:53 PM
people im willing to lynch today

uaw
perdition
birdie
domer
mets

not really in any order except uaw is top choice
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03-30-2012 , 06:53 PM
Are weekend eod times the same?
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03-30-2012 , 06:54 PM
saturday and sunday are 1 day. theres no "night" saturday night
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03-30-2012 , 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by macavoy
Why in your opinion am I a good wagon at this point?
Because you do nothing.
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03-30-2012 , 06:54 PM
mets
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03-30-2012 , 06:55 PM
perdition which of the other wagons did you like
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03-30-2012 , 06:55 PM
mets
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03-30-2012 , 06:56 PM
mets
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03-30-2012 , 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by macavoy
mets,

Can you do me a really big favour and trust me that nls is a villager here. Pretty please, put him on ignore if you have to. You know how much I detest that but please do.
Yes

yes yes yes

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Originally Posted by Anarchist
i disagree

i also believe macavoy is a wolf

no reason to give up a free mislynch on shipitup just cause macavoy yelled seer
you can't believe this

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Originally Posted by macavoy
I'm going to hard clear bls for this post.


pretty much the same thought I had

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Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan
**** now he can see my tiles

SHIP IT DON'T LOOK AT THE PICTURE


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Originally Posted by BirdieLongSocks
I summed it up as bored selfish villa
Why?

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Originally Posted by macavoy
This is super wolfy by annie


I'm gonna bet he did nothing yesterday to point out why shipit was villagery yesterday.


More importantly, he hedges his vote of me with "or a troll" so he has an excuse when I flip villager.


Except that in every game, he begs for me to troll so he can know I'm villaging. annie always begs for me to troll.
Exactly. I've been on Anarchist's detective all game for this, and his read on you just seems so ****ing backwards right now. I can't see how he can conclude that you're a wolf given the evidence on hand.

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Originally Posted by Montecore
God I really hope you're not a wolf, because if you are, I think you are trying to spew me wolf once you flip.

If you were trying to flip your meta, though, mercilessly tunneling me when you know I'm a villager would be another way to do it. So either you don't know I'm a villager (which means you're a villager), or you know I would NLS style policy lynch you for tunneling me and you're a wolf fps'ing a little.

I think you're probably a villager but I don't see how we don't lynch you today.
I don't like this post much given prior meta. You and Mac were w/w recently and he spewed you in a similar way, so it could be something you'd be quite worried about as a wolf. That said, you're very likely a villager (as is Mac) so dwai

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Originally Posted by macavoy
This was in response to bls's post above that I just quoted. Once again, its an honest analysis of vmf's game.

More village points to Monte.

I'm sorry that I'm going to clog up the thread everyone but I'm going to put every single thought I have out there so vmf & annie look horrible when its super duper that I'm a villager.
One thing about VMF. I re-read parts of the Detective Conan game to look at how Annie and VMF acted towards you there. Annie was very much like this as a wolf. VMF actually pushed you a little bit there too as a villager, more than I remember.

But his read on you is still way too definitive.

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Originally Posted by macavoy
this post was in response to bob and I get the feeling that he isn't giving reads but he's trying to give advice to appear to fit in




this is his next post and its to teddy and he's doing the same thing.


I'm really hoping to find some solid reads from db305 before he enters tilt mode later.
Bingo, but he's been really villagery since.

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Originally Posted by DB305
I don't have any past games with binkles. I'm not familiar with his meta so can't comment on that or interactions based on that.

Tone to me is villagery. Seems free-flowing. He's in the thread, interacting, posting reads, etc.

He quickly comes to the conclusion that NLS, Variance and Monte are villagers and ShipIt is a wolf.

After calling ShipIt wolf, he does a good job interacting with ShipIt. I see this as villagery, giving ShipIt a chance to clear himself.

Changes vote to TBob, I assume to spark some interaction there given TBob's UTRness at the time. Then starts interacting with him when he returns.

He then goes on to explain his reads when questioned, provide more analysis as it develops.

Overall, I'd give him a villager lean. Based upon what develops with him, he and NLS are now closely tied. I haven't explored that interaction fully yet.

Also, I haven't tried to figure out the combinations of the three you asked about, i.e.

If Mac = v then mets likely ? and binkles likely ?
I enjoyed this analysis. It helps that you come to the right conclusion :P But yeah, I like that you spent some time going back through some reads when asked, and that you took a step back on Montecore a bit.

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Originally Posted by macavoy
I don't like how he basically starts off trying to make vmf look villagery




again same thing here.

i guess the reason why it bothers me is because binkles is reading me correctly today and he's called out vmf this morning.

Kind of like what i said in regards to nofear earlier, him peeking me villager, I think if vmf & annie are wolves, the other remaining wolves, need to 100% be on my side.

so I'm skeptical of people who are on my side, even though they are doing so for the right reasons.

damn village paranoia
Hehe, I think I read you correctly yesterday too. I didn't want to call you very villagery early on because I honestly wanted to see how others would react. Hence my somewhat cryptic post a bit later.

And VMF's start when he went at Mets was villagery.

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Originally Posted by DB305
I'm taking Monte off the table. Re-reading with an open mind he's probably villa and I'm calling a self-imposed ceasefire on my tilt-induced spite.

Why he's villa:

1. Post count and content seriously way too high and way confrontational for a wolf.

2. He started my wagon early. Wolves will rarely draw that attention to themselves since if they're wrong they're lynched.

That said, at the time the wagons were 5/5, I believe there was at least 1 wolf on each ShipIt and I.

Time to go looking.
Yeah this is the post I really like.

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Originally Posted by macavoy
I think annie reads me the best, I'm one of his favourite peek targets. He peeks me correctly in 95% of games.


You read me well.




Ok, I like how he tries to engage uaw





what I don't like is he doesn't call uaw out for disappearing when he should imo.


wolf points to binkles. binkles is a strong wolf and wouldn't be afraid to interact and would try get uaw to interact if they are w/w.

so uaw & binkles could be w/w imo





But binkles does get villa points for going back and doing some work when nobody would engage him instead of just disappearing.

but that's also in binkles wolf range but its more villagery than wolfy

so villa points for that
UAW disappearing like that is fairly role neutral afaik. He did it in the Hoodwinked game as a villager, so I wasn't super worried about it. The way in which he reenters the thread and talks about stuff would be far more indicative of his role. The way in which he's done that makes him likely to be a wolf.

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Originally Posted by macavoy
villa points here for bls for engaging binkles




I don't like how binkles hedges and doesn't give a read but he's honest though.


no points at this point.
I wouldn't call it a hedge. I think of a hedge as like "well I think you're villagery but *excuse for why I can mislynch you later*" or something. That was a genuine no read :P

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Originally Posted by macavoy
Again, I find this is an honest analysis of vmf's game. But i don't like how he's trying to paint him as villagery.


I also don't like how he soft goes after db305 here who is a good mislynch target because of the way Monte was pushing him.




Again, I don't like the way he's hedging on db305 here. He doesn't really give a read of him





and here, its like he's trying to soft push Monte's case of db305 and trying to get shipit to push it for him.


What do you think about it Monte? I know you think db305 is wolfy and I agree with you about him yesterday and I agree he's being more villagery today.

But I don't like the way binkles is soft pushing it here and trying to get someone else to do the dirty work for him.
The red doesn't vibe with the blue imo.

Also, I was wording it like that to try and get a read on the players I was interacting with. I explained my thoughts on DB more fully later iirc.

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Originally Posted by Montecore
This sentence also seems really contrived:

"Anyway, I'd still like your thoughts on that whilst I ponderate some more."

I think your analysis is good; he sponged my case and was on DB for a while yesterday as I recall.

UAW vote works great for me right now.
I'm all cryptic and stuff. His analysis is definitely good, but that should be clear for the world to see. And that vote is good (still like semi-grunching tho)

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Originally Posted by Montecore
Also perdi.

If one or both of UAW or Perdi are villagers we are probably screwed, since it's going to take a fair bit of work for me to not want to lynch them at this point.

Does anyone know if either/both of them tend to go UTR as wolves? I know UAW isn't the highest volume poster in any case, but I don't have a ton of experience with Perdi
I think both go UTR in both roles. The way they resurface should help get a handle on their roles.

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Originally Posted by macavoy
ok i really love this post by binkles. Mostly because he's wanting to do more research on vmf at this point. He isn't trying to save him in a wolfy way, he's legit wanting to make sure he dots his eyes and crosses his tees.





BINKLES,

Can you explain your domer read please.




Also why doesn't he have me on his villa list if he has shipit as his #1 wolf and just said I can't be w/w with him.

I also think he puts mets on his village list purposely so he doesn't attract attention from mets. But I admit, my blinders are on pretty big right now.
It wasn't really a read. More based on some ongoing game stuff which made me think it was best to pretty much ignore him for most of the day. His thought processes near EOD yesterday and today thus far have been really quite villagery imo.
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03-30-2012 , 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by NLSoldier
saturday and sunday are 1 day. theres no "night" saturday night
Good, I will be at a movie tomorrow night.
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03-30-2012 , 06:57 PM
Votes as of post 1742
Night in 02:03

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VotesLynchVoters
4 Anarchist captain binkles (70), DB305 (25), Nofear3838 (10), Perdition (8)
3 Macavoy Anarchist (15), BirdieLongSocks (30), VarianceMinefield (7)
3 metsandfinsfan NLSoldier (151), domer2 (30), MrGatito (19)
1 domer2 metsandfinsfan (88)
1 MrGatito teddyyyr1974 (50)
1 NLSoldier UAW710 (20)
1 Perdition Macavoy (85)
1 UAW710 Montecore (57)
0 not voting
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03-30-2012 , 06:58 PM
Teddy vote Mets he's 4th lowest on your list.
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03-30-2012 , 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by NLSoldier
i agree that he's been pretty good today. but what on earth is the excuse for not just being like that yesterday. why be a complete troll as a villager ever
Mac works best when he doesn't have to try to clear himself imo

and then he clears himself by thinking he can't clear himself and solving the game

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Originally Posted by Perdition
Because you do nothing.
wat
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03-30-2012 , 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by NLSoldier
perdition which of the other wagons did you like
mcavoy
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03-30-2012 , 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by captain binkles
Mac works best when he doesn't have to try to clear himself imo

and then he clears himself by thinking he can't clear himself and solving the game
wat
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03-30-2012 , 07:01 PM
perdition i thought it sounded like there were multiple wagons you liked?
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03-30-2012 , 07:02 PM
Cool wagon

Sushi time
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