itt macavoy tries to seerhunt me
im prolly not the seer tho
but i may be
or am i
maybe

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I obviously know you're neither obnoxious nor arrogant, that doesn't preclude people from doing crazy, out-of-character things for a stylistic change in their ww game. Is Binkles a horrible dick for getting real mad, yelling at people, and just in general being unpleasant in one of his recent villager games? (Note: don't actually answer this )

I'll keep it in mind, but I have to say I still found him villagery and think it's in line with his villager game. I've liked Slighted's posts a lot today too Maybe I'm terrible and getting owned

but

I can't play with a fear of getting owned

As for the bolded:

Noah is pretty clear imo
I dont like his mq on me
but whatcha gonna do when villagers get it wrong

have we decided what we're doing about the soah kill and shc implications?

DAVE MCLANE . GIF UP IN THE THREAD

AIDS

DOUBLE AIDS

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Jim, is that really how you think you catch mac if he's a wolf? you know my history of reading him right? he's not a wolf [period] and complaining about ppl not listening to you isn't going to make ppl listen to you. more ppl would be responding to your posts quicker if there wasnt a tight post restriction. I'm cutting my normal posting down to like 20%.

i'll give you that macs reasoning for you and mets being w/w is backwards, but it doesnt make him a wolf

and willi, if i have veto power with you, im using it now

also mac, the slighted thing had nothing to do with peeks, it has more to do with how wolves will deal with willi if he's a villager this game. it wasnt about peeks and it's not just that i think he wouldn't put a wolf at the top of his v list. it's specific to willi

unvote

slighted

dont lynch tehtoes, noah, willi


i have to go and cant make it back
im sorry i cant post more
it looks like i may get lynched
im not going to claim anything
im gonna hope people come to their senses and the wolves have to decide to nk me or not
if it is the end, it was fun and gl everyone
my reads are out in the open, at least please take them into consideration

aksdal, i have used "mac isnt spazzy mac therefore he is a wolf" to great success. What do you mean "do you think this is rly how you catch him"?

like, hes not spazzy AND his thoughts are all backwards aka fabricated
like he cant possibly take the info i know he has from our experience
and come to that conclusion naturally
he cant

James

If you were the seer you should want to lynch mcavoy not slighted

Plus I have to fight you on slighted to keep up my cover

I promise you if you die and I'm not the seer we can lynch slighted

Mac I'm waiting for the link to those villa games where u ignored the thread

Somebody tell me my postcount

i think ive seen mac ignore the thread as a villa but i still think its awful

I probably say villager.

applejack is lying, he knows my current wolf game better than anyone else because Jim is the architecht of my current game

I don't make **** up as a wolf, I play straight forward as a wolf and push for mislynches & clear people.

Look at my recent wolf games, I don't lie inthem, I stil play straightforward as a wolf.

I'm just a lotbetter than I use to be.


mets,

I'm not doing the work for you. Its a well known fact that I don't post d1 in any role, look up ALL my games, it's a fact.

More importantly you voting me over applejack is super wolfy.

Also everyone take note

mets isn't emo like vilager mets is, wolf tell

Sup guys, only have a few hours today and prob won't be here for EOD

Chris is a peeked villa, now im gonna read the thread.

its a confidence thing. the confidence drives the spazz. the confidence makes him a villager. he's not a wolf here.

doesnt matter

doesnt matter

Applejack	51
metsandfinsfan	47
Aksdal	40
Noah	39
Gadarene	39
Willi	34
Montecore	33
vixticator	31
McAvoy	28
soah	26
chrisrjdk	24
HiFi	23
Anarchist	22
timistere	16
Tehtoes	15
NLSoldier	14
Nofear3838	14
J.D.	9
Debo9	5
Slighted	4

como?

i obviously know he went after soah as a villager in that spot. but what concerns me is you saying "he would never, ever...go at soah".. i dont think that's what happened.. i think soah went at him(or atleast gad thought so) and gad responded.. gad is well within his emotional villager range to get upset with people tunneling him wrongly.. i also dont like that you havent said a single word about me today, i obviously only have 5 or so posts so far but the game now is about whether slighted is villagery or wolfy, and not whether or not you read gad correctly or incorrectly from day1... but i guess thats the downfall of subbing in..

i dont think you should be lynched today, atleast not until we hear more from other wolfy people like jd/chris.. but this is me being skeptical..



thank you for the peek, although it seems you may take it back.. lol

have you not found a good enough wolf lean to tunnel on yet? this is less upset than you seemed in the last PoR game when you spent 15+ posts a day specifically tunneling bremen... i mean i think you quoted his one line post 30 times in one of your tunneling posts... does this lineup make you less spazzy? or are you not sure enough on wolf leans to completely freak out on someone yet?..

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Monte, I've had a look at your d1 of Hoodwinked. The thing I noted was that you very frequently agreed with posts of almost everyone in the game at some point, usually adding a sentence or two of your own thoughts but not getting too in-depth. You've done that a few times in this game, but nowhere near the volume with which you did it in that game. Also, in this game you seem to be a bit more free-flowing and going more in-depth with some of your own original thoughts, but it's not a drastic change or anything. One thing that is very similar in this game to that one is that you've chosen 2 or 3 people, and seem to focus a LOT of aggressive interaction and questioning their way. In Hoodwinked, it was flytrap, andrew, and vix especially. Here, it seems to be HiFi, Gad, and Noah a bit yesterday. So that's a bit tough, but it seems like something you probably would/should be doing as a villager as well, so perhaps giving me a villager game to give me a bit of a baseline would be quite helpful.

I definitely notice some differences between this game and that one that make me a bit more comfortable with you being villa here. There are some similarities too but I don't think they're damning or that wolfy or anything. The problem I feel I'm going to run into with you is that you're a smart, well-spoken guy who I'm fairly unfamiliar with and is probably quite well-balanced in both roles (pending that baseline), so I may have trouble completely clearing you.

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HiFi, who are your top wolf leans right now? And what do you think of my analysis of timi earlier?

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=478

Why is is that everyone is just ignoring my mets wagon. no one joining, yet no one actively defending him?

i posted this question in my reads list.. if you could answer/ explain your reasoning that would be very helpful... i normally always read you as wolfy regardless of your role, quick examples i can think of..(3/1 PoR game(villa), GoG(wolf), SE(wolf)..) however here i got a strong village vibe from your posts which is weird for me, it could be that they are formatted differently and more content filled than any games i've read before of yours..

But the thing about vixt is bad imo.. you know him pretty well, at least i know you've been in similar games with both him and I, and i think you would have a better read on him by now than most of the people in this thread, so i would have expected you to be on the other side of wanting to lynch him...

Tehtoes --

Understood. I haven't really attempted to balance my villager and wolf games (as a point of fact I was quite unbalanced before wolfing so much), but I've definitely gotten to the point where I sound more natural as a wolf, and some of the tendencies from that long spell of wolfing have pretty naturally bled over into my villa game.

I think before the 3/19 game my last villa games were Apartments and Eurogame, although my style has changed more than a bit (in my opinon, anyway) since then.

Hifi re-read:

Hifi's first post. villa lean for debo, half of one for me, and a meaningless non-lean on mets.
Chooses not to comment on anyone else.

Thinks a mets post is villagery but won't commit to a lean for it yet. Villager lean for Gad, but
conditions it as being weak aorn.

Gets involved with the early part of the soah/Gad exchange by attempting to answer Gad's question on
soah's waste posts comment.

Don't agree with the first part of this. Commenting on something WITH someone is interacting, and that seemed to be
what monte was trying to get hifi to do. And she refuses.

Agree with her comment to soah regarding her thoughts on the mets post she talking about though.


Comment to mets about another game. Response to monte citing previous recent experience with him as a reason
for no strong lean yet.

Will be interested to see what Hifi's thoughts are on mets today now that we know that soah was a villager.

Then addresses soah and gives him a wolf lean. And I agree with what she is saying about speaking her thoughts regardless
of whether a certain type of post is univerally viewed as wolfy or not because I felt some of the same things
yesterday as I was attempting to defend myself. So I find this particular thought villagery.

Responding to chris after he asks about how Hifi came to her 'mets villa or w/w' conclusion.

Continued interaction with monte who is still on her about not having responded enough to what he is saying.


Still at monte after his continued pushing at her to explain things to him.

Aggitated response to monte who is saying her posts are wolfy. Note that after declaring she is going to just village
normally and not worry about her post count after saying that the post restriction affects her villaging style
greatly and she is aware that she may look wolfy, she made only 14 posts yesterday and didn't vote.

I noticed mets asked her about this earlier today and she genuinely had an appointment irl. Fair enough, but
if you know ahead of time that you have it, why not vote before you leave if you already know that you aren't
going to be back?

Response to soah questioning her about commenting earlier on how villagery a mets post was.

A reads list from her before she leaves the thread. She has a 'unvillagery' list, which I assume is a wolf list,
of at least a list of people she would vote for. But she votes neither of them.

Also note monte as number two on her villagery list despite her saying to him earlier more than once that
based on previous recent experience with him as a wolf, she wasn't going to clear him lightly and was unsure
about him.

Asks me why I'm not an incredibly obvious villager to her yet. I appeared on her village leans included in her
first post, she doesn't go into what has changed. Also of note, debo who appeared as a definite villa lean in
her opening post does not appear at all on her latest reads list.

Response to Aksdal questioning her about her 'maaaaaaaybe villager' lean on him.

Responding to my response when she asked why I wasn't an obvious villager.

Again, I wonder why she would give me any kind of villager lean in her opening post if it seems like part of the
way she reads me is that sometimes I appear to her to be an obvious villager, and clearly I'm not reading that
way to her here.

Also interesting, as I'm going to stop this MQ after yesterday's posts, is that this morning Hifi entered the
thread and quoted a vote on someone else and said 'that's not how you spell noah', a very definitive statement to
make, indicating strongly that hifi would vote for me herself and has me as a wolf lean at that point.

Then I make an MQ on timi (who I have views on that no-one agrees with) and Hifi quotes a post there I ask
her about that vote post comment, and says that actually, she doesn't think so now, and now she is voting
timi based in part it seems on my MQ of him. How does that one part of my MQ take Hifi from thinking I'm a wolf
(as indicated by the 'that's not how you spell noah' comment earlier) to outright stating that she doesn't
think that anymore after one post. It doesn't make sense to me.

Commentary on Aksdal's soul read of mac.


Cliffs:

Reads don't follow naturally imo.

If she had such a strong villa read on debo from the first post, why
forget him on the second reads list, but comment on him nowhere in
between to indicate a change of read.

Why bother including me in the first post if I wasn't an obvious villager to
her. Why the comment about me this morning, only to turn around and
vote timi based seemingly on my MQ?

Hifi is wolfy.

Hifi would make a great wagon.

Also, I skimmed this end of the thread as I was going through the thread to get these quotes together and think about stuff, and I think Jim's latest posts are somewhat more villagery than his posting yesterday.

I would much rather lynch Hifi today.

And I hate the fact that Hifi sponged me to get on timi after the vote comment.

Willing to rethink timi based on my Hifi re-read.

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NL, what is your reasoning behind a mets wagon besides you not liking d1 passes? I might be able to be convinced, since Jim has successfully confused me even though we're pretty much still on opposite sides when it comes to reads.

Monte, I'll probably take a look at Apartments later on if you think it would still be worthwhile.

Noah, on the reread, I was going to do that myself. What did you think of my post on timi?

hifi

I read it, and at the time I read it, I thought to myself fair enough, but that it didn't change my thoughts at the time about the things I noticed from him yesterday that I didn't like. But, my read of timi this game is based almost entirely on timi this game and not on any reads or comparisons with previous games. I have played with him, but not as much as I've played with others, and I haven't had a great of cause to re-read him extensively in other games. Given that my Hifi re-read had caused me to want to think more about my thoughts on timi, I'm willing to go back and re-read timi from some other games if either you or him want to point me in a direction to do some. I might not have time for that until later, but I will certainly try and get to it, and I no longer want to lynch timi today over Hifi at least.



Also, I want to use this post, despite the fact that I'm going to incur his disdain (and possibly from others), to go on record and say that I think Aksdal could be a wolf.

No-one cares, no-one will listen, that's fine. I just want it on the record.